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    IS THE WELFARE STATE FAULT OF CHRISTIANS?



    IS THE WELFARE STATE FAULT OF CHRISTIANS?

    By Michael Moriarty
    May 7, 2011

    NewsWithViews.com

    Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. - James 1:27

    The Obama Administration and both houses of the US Congress are fast-tracking a number of programs designed to increase the size of what's commonly known as the Welfare State.

    And while Christian church leaders and members may wag their fingers at this socialist strategy of "forced charity," we must remember that in order to remove the specks from the eyes of liberal-left politicians, we must first remove the boards from our own eyes.

    The Church -- the Body of Christ -- continues its laxity in assisting the poor, the homeless, the diseased and the mentally ill in the United States. In the days before Franklin Delano Roosevelt's New Deal and Lyndon Baines Johnson's Great Society, it was the Christian church that provided food, clothing and shelter for the poor and destitute members of society.

    For example, During The Great Depression and thereafter, the majority of "soup kitchens" and "shelters" were run by local churches. The homeless were provided a warm meal, a place to rest and a chance to hear the Good News of salvation through Jesus Christ. Christians in those days understood that in order to address the needs of the soul, it's best to first address the needs of the body.

    But today, it appears that Christian leaders and church members have passed on the role of charity givers to the government – a government that prohibits even the mention of Jesus Christ within the public realm.

    To put it succinctly, Christian men and women have changed from a people who literally give the shirts off their backs to cheapskates. And we have more than merely anecdotal evidence to back up that claim.

    Two studies were conducted by Ellison Research Institute. One was a representative sample of 811 Protestant church ministers nationwide, and the other was a companion survey of 1,184 people who attend Protestant churches at least once a month.

    In the study, 56 percent of all clergy say Christians are under a biblical mandate to tithe 10 percent of their income to the local church, while another 12 percent feel Christians are under this 10 percent mandate, but the gifts do not necessarily have to go to the local church.

    Twenty percent believe there is a biblical mandate to give, but not any specific amount or percentage.

    However, among the people who attend Protestant churches, only 36 percent feel there is a biblical command to tithe 10 percent to their local church, while another 23 percent believe there is a biblical mandate to tithe, but not necessarily to the local church.

    Twenty-seven percent feel the Bible commands Christians to give, but not a set proportion or amount, while 10 percent believe Christians are under no mandate to give anything.

    Among people who do believe in tithing (whether to the local church specifically or to any type of organization), an ongoing debate is whether the 10 percent should be figured on gross income or on net income (after taxes).

    Churchgoers who believe in tithing are equally split over this: Forty-eight percent believe the tithe should be figured on net income while fifty-two percent say it should be on gross income.

    In a 2003 study, researchers discovered that the number of Americans who give ten percent of their income to the church "dropped by 62 percent in the past year, from 8 percent in 2001 to just 3 percent of adults during 2002," the Barna Research Group said.

    And Roman Catholics were even worse than their Protestant brethren. Of Catholic respondents, none reported giving 10 percent of last year's (2002) income to his or her church.

    Barna, study revealed that among born-again adults, 14 percent reported tithing in 2001, but only 6 percent said they did so in 2002. Among evangelicals, nearly 9 percent of those surveyed reported tithing.

    And it gets worse in a more recent survey of Christian giving. The total charitable giving in 2008 (adjusted for inflation), was down 5.7 percent, the largest drop recorded in five decades, according to Giving USA, the annual report on American philanthropy. While religious charities did not suffer the effects of the economic slump as dramatically as other sectors, giving to religion did soften, increasing 1.6 percent (adjusted for inflation) compared with 1.8 percent in 2007.

    The survey of 2008 giving estimates appear even less encouraging for 2009, given that the effects of the recession didn't fully impact the US economy until late 2008.

    With such a shabby record of giving by churchgoers, it is difficult for churches -- an important institution for community stabilization -- to perform their Christian duties to feed, clothe, and shelter the poor, disabled, mentally ill and others in American society who depend on the charity of others.

    With this lack of charity comes the unintended consequences of government programs that are intrusive and ineffective. For instance, public assistance, or welfare, has done more to destabilize the nuclear family than any other program in history. One of the stipulations for qualifying for public assistance is that a mother be alone in raising her children. So, in order to qualify, millions of women forgo marriage and create a single-parent home for their children. Another drawback is welfare payments being based on the number of children in the home. This further increases the number of children who grow up without a father.

    Honest sociologists long ago realized the destructive nature of government-run "charity." Yet, conservatives -- especially Christian conservatives -- may find it difficult to condemn the welfare system without performing their Christian duty to be charitable.

    Besides, what Christian wants to be known as a cheapskate?

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    With the churches, catholic services giving and empowering lawbreaker/illegal aliens. When I give and I don't have crap.
    I seek out the needy and give.
    It is Gods will!

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    I give my ties to the church but when they pass the plate to help illegals i pass it on by.I will give if its an legal american thats down on their luck,but noway will i support illegals.I know God wants us to help the needy but illegals are not they just know how to milk the system.They should not be here anyway.

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    I disagree with the original post what this writer is trying to say is the government has no choice but to hand out welfare since Christians won't do so, stupid in itself because Christan's pay taxes probably overall more then average. This guy sounds like a left winger trying to place blame on the right.
    I'm old with many opinions few solutions.

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