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    House Narrowly Advances Climate Bill to the Floor

    The vote was 217-205 to advance the White House-backed legislation to the floor, and 30 Democrats defected, a reflection of the controversy the bill sparked.

    Friday, June 26, 2009

    House Democrats narrowly won a key test vote Friday on sweeping legislation to combat global warming and usher in a new era of cleaner energy. Republicans said the bill included "the largest tax increase in American history."

    The vote was 217-205 to advance the White House-backed legislation to the floor, and 30 Democrats defected, a reflection of the controversy the bill sparked.

    The legislation would impose limits for the first time on carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas pollution from power plants, factories and refineries. It also would force a shift from coal and other fossil fuels to renewable and more efficient forms of energy. Supporters and opponents agreed the result would be higher energy costs, but disagreed widely on the impact on consumers.

    President Obama has made the measure a top priority of his first year in office. The president, along with White House aides and House Democratic leaders, scrambled for the votes to assure passage. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has pledged to get the legislation passed before lawmakers leave on their July 4 vacation.

    The Senate has yet to act on the measure, and a major struggle is expected.

    In the House, the bill's fate depended on the decisions of a few dozen fence-sitting Democrats, mainly conservatives and moderates from contested districts who feared the political ramifications of siding with the White House and their leadership on the measure.

    Democrats left little or nothing to chance. Rep. Ellen Tauscher, D-Calif., confirmed by the Senate on Thursday to an administration post, put off her resignation from Congress until after the final vote on the climate change bill.

    "The bill contains provisions to protect consumers, keep costs low, help sensitive industries transition to a clean energy economy and promote domestic emission reduction efforts," the White House in a statement of support for the legislation.

    Republicans saw it differently.

    This "amounts to the largest tax increase in American history under the guise of climate change," said Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind.

    While the bill would impose a "cap-and-trade" system that would force higher energy costs, Republicans for weeks have branded it an energy tax on every American.

    But Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass., said there was a "moral imperative to be good stewards of the earth."

    The legislation, totaling about 1,200 pages, would require the U.S. to reduce carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions by 17 percent from 2005 levels by 2020 and about 80 percent by the next century.

    U.S. carbon dioxide emissions from the burning of fossil fuels are rising at about 1 percent a year and are predicted to continue increasing without mandatory caps.

    Under the bill, the government would limit heat-trapping pollution from factories, refineries and power plants. It would distribute pollution allowances that could be bought and sold, depending on whether a facility exceeds the cap or makes greater pollution cuts than are required.

    Obama on Thursday called it "a vote of historic proportions ... that will open the door to a clean energy economy" and green jobs. "It will create millions of new jobs," Pelosi insisted.

    Both Obama and Pelosi preferred to focus on the economic issues rather than on what environmentalists view as the urgency of reducing carbon emissions blamed for global warming.

    The Rust Belt coal-state Democrats who have been sitting on the fence worry about how to explain their vote for higher energy prices to people back home -- and how the vote might play out in elections next year.

    Republicans have been quick to exploit those concerns.

    "Democratic leaders are poised to march many moderate Democrats over a cliff ... by forcing them to vote for a national energy tax that is unpopular throughout the heartland," Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio said.

    There was widespread agreement that under this cap-and-trade system, the cost of energy would almost certainly increase. But Democrats argued that much of the impact on taxpayers would be offset by other provisions in the bill. Low-income consumers would qualify for credits and rebates to cushion the impact on their energy bills.

    Two reports issued this week -- one from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office and the other from the Environmental Protection Agency -- seemed to support that argument.

    The CBO analysis estimated that the bill would cost an average household $175 a year; the EPA put it at between $80 and $110 a year.

    Republicans questioned the validity of the CBO study and noted that even that analysis showed actual energy production costs increasing $770 per household. Industry groups have cited other studies showing much higher cost to the economy and to individuals.

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    actual energy production costs increasing $770 per household. Industry groups have cited other studies showing much higher cost to the economy and to individuals.
    Can "We the People" afford this per household?
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    I have been calling all morning and the lines are busy not only for my congressmen but also for the main switch board.

    I tried to get thru yesterday but never could on either line due to the "ciruits being busy".

    I hope any congressmen who voted for this bill gets booted out of office in 16 months.

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    The woman at Congresswoman Bean's office (8th Dist Illinois) refused to tell me how her boss would vote. I let her know I would find out before 2010. She was very polite and listened to everything I had to say - at least that's in her favor. I suspect she didn't want to tell me the Congresswoman voted in favor. She tends to be a rubber stamp for the great one's wishes.
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    Our country is done. The Marxists have completely taken over. They no longer care what the people think. When are the people going to rise up? We need to learn from Iran because thats where we are headed. Shame on the American people for allowing this. I will never give up even when they come to take me away because of my belief in freedom. Our votes obviously mean nothing anymore. These people arnt afraid because voting here is as corrupt as in Iran. Acorn will be in charge of it. Just look at Minnesota. I am so ticked off, I cant take it.

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    If anyone can find a role call of the vote, please post. Thank you.
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    UPDATE ON BILL June 26th, 2009


    Today, Congress will vote on the destructive cap-and-tax legislation. You know it's horrible. You know it will destroy prosperity. You know it will enable the government to transform the economy—which is never a good idea. You know it will cause energy prices to soar.

    And you know what to do. If you have the time, please contact to your Representatives as this debate unfolds. The Capitol Switchboard number is (202) 224-3121.

    Also, here is a list of key votes that, based on this morning's key procedural vote, need to be focused on. Please help! The nation's future prosperity depends on it:

    Target Republicans:

    Vern Buchanan (FL-13)
    Ginny Brown-Waite (FL-5)
    Joseph Cao (LA-2)
    Vern Ehlers (MI-3)
    Rodney Frelinghuysen (NJ-11)
    Jim Gerlach (PA-6)
    Tim Johnson (IL-15)
    Mark Kirk (IL-10)
    Chris Smith (NJ-04)
    Jeff Fortenberry (NE-01)

    202-225-5015
    202-225-1002
    202-225-6636
    202-225-3831
    202-225-5034
    202-225-4315
    202-225-2371
    202-225-4835
    202-225-3765
    202-225-4806

    Target Democrats:

    Frank Kratovil (MD-1)
    Chet Edwards (TX-17)
    Brad Ellsworth (IN-Cool
    John Boccieri (OH-16)
    Mark Schauer (MI-7)
    Gary Peters (MI-9)
    Larry Kissell (NC-Cool
    Chris Carney (PA-10)
    Steve Driehaus (OH-16)
    Harry Teague (NM-2)
    Joe Donnelly (IN-2)
    Ciro Rodriquez (TX-23)
    Alan Grayson (FL-Cool
    Betsy Markey (CO-04)
    Alan Mollohan (WV-01)
    Tim Walz (MN-01)

    202-225-5311
    202-225-6105
    202-225-4636
    202-225-3876
    202-225-6276
    202-225-5802
    202-225-3715
    202-225-3731
    202-225-2216
    202-225-2365
    202-225-3915
    202-225-4511
    202-225-2176
    202-225-4676
    202-225-4172
    202-225-2472

    In today's Liberty Action Report, Congress must reject carbon caps to save the economy, Obama's silence on the massacre of democracy in Iran is tragic, Barney Frank wants more cheap loans for condo purchases, and government health care will invariably disfavor the elderly.

    Please send your letters to the editor at Robert@getliberty.org. We publish all points of view! Today,
    George Bennett, Jr. of Libuse, LA writes in part, "Obama wants you to pay for your neighbor's mortgage, government owned banks, and Union-owned automakers; all unconstitutional while the watch dogs (press) salivate at his glance, allowing him to turn the most powerful country in the world into a USSR-style failure. Just when you think someone might start complaining(or at least tell the truth) about this peaceful destruction of our country, Obama says he wants taxpayers and their employers to pay for those same neighbor's who don't have health insurance. These communists also want to take over the energy industry with 'cap and trade'! If the press doesn't start waking up the sleeping electorate with the truth, nothing will stop the takeover."

    A vigilant press is one of the requirements of a functioning democracy. The controlled media assuredly weakens our liberty by restricting access to information that criticizes the Obama regime. Keep the mail coming, and call your Representatives today before they nationalize the energy sector! Take care.

    Robert Romano – Senior Editor
    Carter Clews – Executive Editor
    Bill Wilson – President


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    FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 466
    (Democrats in roman; Republicans in italic; Independents underlined)

    H RES 587 RECORDED VOTE 26-Jun-2009 11:22 AM
    QUESTION: On Agreeing to the Resolution
    BILL TITLE: Providing for consideration of H.R. 2454, American Clean Energy and Security Act

    Ayes Noes PRES NV
    Democratic 217 30 8
    Republican 175 3
    Independent
    TOTALS 217 205 11


    ---- AYES 217 ---

    Abercrombie
    Adler (NJ)
    Andrews
    Arcuri
    Baca
    Baldwin
    Bean
    Becerra
    Berkley
    Berman
    Berry
    Bishop (GA)
    Bishop (NY)
    Blumenauer
    Boccieri
    Boswell
    Boucher
    Boyd
    Brady (PA)
    Braley (IA)
    Brown, Corrine
    Butterfield
    Capps
    Capuano
    Cardoza
    Carnahan
    Carson (IN)
    Castor (FL)
    Chandler
    Clarke
    Clay
    Cleaver
    Clyburn
    Cohen
    Connolly (VA)
    Conyers
    Cooper
    Costa
    Costello
    Courtney
    Crowley
    Cuellar
    Cummings
    Davis (AL)
    Davis (CA)
    Davis (IL)
    DeGette
    Delahunt
    DeLauro
    Dicks
    Dingell
    Donnelly (IN)
    Doyle
    Driehaus
    Edwards (MD)
    Edwards (TX)
    Ellison
    Ellsworth
    Engel
    Eshoo
    Etheridge
    Farr
    Fattah
    Filner
    Frank (MA)
    Fudge
    Giffords
    Gonzalez
    Gordon (TN)
    Grayson
    Green, Al
    Green, Gene
    Grijalva
    Gutierrez
    Hall (NY)
    Hare
    Heinrich
    Herseth Sandlin
    Higgins
    Himes
    Hinchey
    Hinojosa
    Hirono
    Hodes
    Holden
    Honda
    Hoyer
    Inslee
    Israel
    Jackson (IL)
    Jackson-Lee (TX)
    Johnson (GA)
    Johnson, E. B.
    Kagen
    Kanjorski
    Kaptur
    Kildee
    Kilpatrick (MI)
    Kilroy
    Kind
    Kirkpatrick (AZ)
    Kissell
    Klein (FL)
    Kosmas
    Kratovil
    Langevin
    Larsen (WA)
    Larson (CT)
    Lee (CA)
    Levin
    Lipinski
    Loebsack
    Lofgren, Zoe
    Lowey
    Luján
    Lynch
    Maffei
    Markey (CO)
    Markey (MA)
    Massa
    Matsui
    McCarthy (NY)
    McCollum
    McDermott
    McGovern
    McIntyre
    McMahon
    McNerney
    Meek (FL)
    Meeks (NY)
    Michaud
    Miller (NC)
    Miller, George
    Moore (KS)
    Moore (WI)
    Moran (VA)
    Murphy (CT)
    Murphy (NY)
    Murphy, Patrick
    Murtha
    Nadler (NY)
    Napolitano
    Neal (MA)
    Oberstar
    Obey
    Olver
    Ortiz
    Pallone
    Pascrell
    Pastor (AZ)
    Payne
    Perlmutter
    Perriello
    Peters
    Peterson
    Pingree (ME)
    Polis (CO)
    Pomeroy
    Price (NC)
    Quigley
    Rangel
    Reyes
    Richardson
    Rodriguez
    Rothman (NJ)
    Roybal-Allard
    Ruppersberger
    Rush
    Ryan (OH)
    Sánchez, Linda T.
    Sanchez, Loretta
    Sarbanes
    Schakowsky
    Schauer
    Schiff
    Schrader
    Schwartz
    Scott (GA)
    Scott (VA)
    Serrano
    Sestak
    Shea-Porter
    Sherman
    Sires
    Skelton
    Slaughter
    Smith (WA)
    Snyder
    Space
    Speier
    Spratt
    Stupak
    Sutton
    Tanner
    Tauscher
    Teague
    Thompson (CA)
    Thompson (MS)
    Tierney
    Titus
    Tonko
    Towns
    Tsongas
    Van Hollen
    Velázquez
    Visclosky
    Wasserman Schultz
    Waters
    Watson
    Watt
    Weiner
    Welch
    Wexler
    Wilson (OH)
    Woolsey
    Wu
    Yarmuth

    ---- NOES 205 ---

    Aderholt
    Akin
    Alexander
    Altmire
    Austria
    Bachmann
    Bachus
    Baird
    Barrett (SC)
    Barrow
    Bartlett
    Barton (TX)
    Biggert
    Bilbray
    Bilirakis
    Bishop (UT)
    Blackburn
    Blunt
    Boehner
    Bonner
    Bono Mack
    Boozman
    Boren
    Boustany
    Brady (TX)
    Bright
    Broun (GA)
    Brown (SC)
    Brown-Waite, Ginny
    Buchanan
    Burgess
    Burton (IN)
    Buyer
    Calvert
    Camp
    Campbell
    Cantor
    Cao
    Capito
    Carney
    Carter
    Cassidy
    Castle
    Chaffetz
    Childers
    Coble
    Coffman (CO)
    Cole
    Conaway
    Crenshaw
    Dahlkemper
    Davis (KY)
    Davis (TN)
    Deal (GA)
    DeFazio
    Dent
    Diaz-Balart, L.
    Diaz-Balart, M.
    Doggett
    Dreier
    Duncan
    Ehlers
    Emerson
    Fallin
    Fleming
    Forbes
    Fortenberry
    Foster
    Foxx
    Franks (AZ)
    Frelinghuysen
    Gallegly
    Garrett (NJ)
    Gerlach
    Gingrey (GA)
    Gohmert
    Goodlatte
    Granger
    Graves
    Griffith
    Guthrie
    Hall (TX)
    Halvorson
    Harman
    Harper
    Hastings (WA)
    Heller
    Hensarling
    Herger
    Hill
    Hoekstra
    Holt
    Hunter
    Inglis
    Issa
    Jenkins
    Johnson (IL)
    Johnson, Sam
    Jones
    Jordan (OH)
    King (IA)
    King (NY)
    Kingston
    Kirk
    Kline (MN)
    Kucinich
    Lamborn
    Lance
    Latham
    LaTourette
    Latta
    Lee (NY)
    Lewis (CA)
    Linder
    LoBiondo
    Lucas
    Luetkemeyer
    Lummis
    Lungren, Daniel E.
    Mack
    Manzullo
    Marchant
    Marshall
    Matheson
    McCarthy (CA)
    McCaul
    McClintock
    McCotter
    McHenry
    McHugh
    McKeon
    McMorris Rodgers
    Melancon
    Mica
    Miller (FL)
    Miller (MI)
    Miller, Gary
    Minnick
    Mitchell
    Moran (KS)
    Murphy, Tim
    Myrick
    Neugebauer
    Nunes
    Nye
    Olson
    Paul
    Paulsen
    Pence
    Petri
    Pitts
    Platts
    Poe (TX)
    Posey
    Price (GA)
    Putnam
    Radanovich
    Rahall
    Rehberg
    Reichert
    Roe (TN)
    Rogers (AL)
    Rogers (KY)
    Rogers (MI)
    Rohrabacher
    Rooney
    Ros-Lehtinen
    Roskam
    Ross
    Royce
    Ryan (WI)
    Salazar
    Scalise
    Schmidt
    Schock
    Sensenbrenner
    Sessions
    Shadegg
    Shimkus
    Shuler
    Shuster
    Simpson
    Smith (NE)
    Smith (NJ)
    Smith (TX)
    Souder
    Stark
    Stearns
    Taylor
    Terry
    Thompson (PA)
    Thornberry
    Tiahrt
    Tiberi
    Turner
    Upton
    Walden
    Wamp
    Westmoreland
    Whitfield
    Wilson (SC)
    Wittman
    Wolf
    Young (AK)
    Young (FL)

    ---- NOT VOTING 11 ---

    Ackerman
    Culberson
    Flake
    Hastings (FL)
    Kennedy
    Lewis (GA)
    Maloney
    Mollohan
    Sullivan
    Walz
    Waxman

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