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    12,000 Children in Custody of U.S. Health and Human Services: NBC News

    Nearly 12,000 Children in Custody of U.S. Health and Human Services: NBC News

    AP says 2,000 children have been split from their families along the U.S. southern border

    Published at 3:16 PM CDT on Jun 18, 2018


    An official with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services tells NBC News the department has 11,785 minors in its care as of Monday, 2,000 of whom the Associated Press says have been separated from their families.

    That number includes "all minors at all shelters and facilities in the unaccompanied alien children program."

    The total number of children in HHS custody has increased by more than 700 in just the last four days. Here's a snapshot of minors taken in since Thursday:


    • Sunday, 6/17: 167 minors taken in
    • Saturday, 6/16: 206 minors taken in
    • Friday, 6/15: 217 minors taken in
    • Thursday, 6/14: 220 minors taken in

    Donald J. Trump

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    It is the Democrats fault for being weak and ineffective with Boarder Security and Crime. Tell them to start thinking about the people devastated by Crime coming from illegal immigration. Change the laws!

    6:53 AM - Jun 18, 2018





    Donald J. Trump

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    Children are being used by some of the worst criminals on earth as a means to enter our country. Has anyone been looking at the Crime taking place south of the border. It is historic, with some countries the most dangerous places in the world. Not going to happen in the U.S.

    6:50 AM - Jun 18, 2018


    At the current pace, the number of migrant children being held by HHS -- as a result of the Trump administration policy -- could hit 20,695 by Aug. 1, 2018.

    The Associated Press took a look at how we got here, what's real and what's not, and what might happen next in the section below.

    HOW DID WE GET HERE?

    Tens of thousands of parents and children, mostly from Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala, have been caught crossing the U.S.-Mexico border illegally in recent years with stories of fleeing drug cartels, extreme poverty and gang violence. The U.S. can't send them back over the border unless they are Mexican citizens, and instead must refer their case to an immigration judge.

    In 2008, President George W. Bush focused on the problem of minors crossing the border without their parents and signed a law unanimously passed by Congress that called for such "unaccompanied minors" to be released into the "least restrictive setting."


    By 2014, President Barack Obama was facing an influx of both children traveling alone and families as a result of violence in Central America. At one point, his administration tried housing the families in special detention centers. But after a federal judge in California ruled the arrangement violated a long-standing agreement barring kids from jail-like settings, even with their parents, the government began releasing families in to the U.S. pending notification of their next court date.


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    Fast forward to Trump, who campaigned on building a border wall, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who derided these longtime U.S. immigration practices as "catch and release." Trump and Sessions insisted that people exploit the system, even traveling with children to ensure they aren't jailed and slipping away before their court dates.

    SO DID U.S. POLICY CHANGE OR NOT?

    Yes. While Trump's new immigration policy doesn't call for families to be separated, as pointed out by Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, the policy makes separations inevitable.

    Following Trump's election, then-Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly -- now Trump's White House chief of staff -- floated the idea of separating families as a way to discourage illegal border crossings. But much of the administration's focus went into a travel ban aimed at Muslim-majority nations.

    By this April, Sessions announced a plan: The U.S. would have "zero tolerance" for illegal crossings. If a person doesn't arrive at an appropriate port of entry to claim asylum, the crossing is deemed illegal and prosecuted even if the person does not have a criminal history. With the adult detained and facing prosecution, any minors accompanying them are taken away.


    Nielsen has muddied the debate by insisting that children will only be separated in narrow circumstances, including if the adult has broken the law. That falsely leaves the impression that only children traveling with gang members or other violent criminals will be separated. But under U.S. law, the act of crossing the border without proper documentation itself is a crime and would trigger a separation.



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    The result is that in the six weeks following Sessions' announcement, nearly 2,000 minors were separated from adults at the border.

    WHAT DO DEMOCRATS HAVE TO DO WITH IT?

    Not much, except that they seem to be relishing in the bad optics this creates for Republicans in the upcoming midterm elections.

    Trump has repeatedly said Democrats are to blame and cited a "horrible law" that separates families. But no law mandates that parents must be separated from their children at the border, and it's not a policy Democrats have pushed or can change alone as the minority in Congress.
    (That 2008 law signed by Bush dealt only with unaccompanied minors, not families.)

    Perhaps a bigger obstacle is that Republicans, currently in control of Congress, have been deeply divided on immigration. Moderate Republicans have been trying to negotiate a plan that would reduce family separations and also open a door to citizenship for young immigrants brought to the U.S. as children and who stayed illegally.


    Fact Check: Dems Not Responsible for Families Separated at Border


    President Donald Trump and some congressional Republicans have been claiming a law is forcing the Trump administration to separate migrant children from their parents at the border.
    (Published Friday, June 15, 2018)


    But many hardline conservatives are leery of any legislation that would protect from deportation immigrants who arrived illegally, calling it "amnesty" and complicating the GOP's ability to pass both the House and reach the needed 60 votes in the Senate.


    Some Democrats have speculated that Trump is using the humanitarian crisis as leverage to negotiate a tougher immigration bill, an assertion the White House has rejected.

    But White House spokesman Hogan Gidley said Monday that any crisis belongs to Democrats because they are the ones who rejected Trump's initial immigration plan.

    "It's a dangerous situation for this country and it's all on the backs of the Democrats," he told Fox News.

    WHAT'S THIS ABOUT THE BIBLE?

    Last week, Sessions cited the Bible in defending the policy.

    "I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order," he said.

    White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders defended Sessions' use of the Bible saying "it is biblical to enforce the law."


    But longtime Trump ally, the Rev. Franklin Graham, had already rejected the zero-tolerance policy as "disgraceful," while former first lady Laura Bush called the practice "cruel" and "immoral." Former first lady Michelle Obama retweeted Bush's tweet saying "sometimes truth transcends party."

    First lady Melania Trump issued her own statement saying that she "hates" to see families separated at the border and hopes "both sides of the aisle" can reform the nation's immigration laws.

    So far though, the White House is showing no sign of backing down. Trump dug in on Twitter on Monday, asking "where is the outcry for the killings and crime being caused by gangs and thugs, including MS-13, coming into our country illegally?"

    https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Ne...485853571.html

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    12 THOUSAND THAT NEED TO BE PUT ON A BUS AND SAFELY TRANSPORTED TO THEIR PRESIDENT WHERE HE CAN REUNITE THEM WITH THEIR RELATIVES ON THEIR SOIL...OR IF NEED BE...PUT THEM IN FACILITIES TO CARE FOR THEM UNTIL HOMES ARE FOUND FOR THEM IN THEIR COUNTRY.

    NOW STOP THIS DAMN NON-SENSE THAT EVERY PERSON WHO SHOWS UP ON OUR BORDER WILL BE ALLOWED TO STAY. WE WILL HAVE 3 BILLION PEOPLE COMING HERE!
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    NO AMNESTY

    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


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    Turn them all over immediately to their home countries at their Consulates. This is low-ball, gutter-depth insanity what is going with these foreign children. GET THEM ALL OUT OF HERE. They are not "adoption" toys for money. They are not "detention" sources of revenue. They are not of age to consent to asylum. They are in fact kidnap victims who need to be returned to their country of citizenship.
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