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    The curious timing of a crackdown

    The curious timing of a crackdown
    The Washington Times : July 27 , 2007 -- by Wesley Pruden

    "Maybe, say curious minds who want to know, there's a spiteful message here to the millions of Americans who so unceremoniously put the president and his allies in Congress smartly in their place with the collapse of the immigration bill." Somebody may be pouting at the White House over the collapse of the comprehensive amnesty legislation.

    For seven years, the Bush administration has been unable or unwilling to enforce the immigration laws, leading to an out-of-control deluge of illegal aliens across the nation's Southern border. Suddenly, the feds are about to do what they said couldn't be done.

    They've been winking at employers who shrug at the widespread custom of taking prospective employees at their word that the Social Security card they offer is genuine, even when the employers suspect it is not and sometimes even when they know it is not. Don't ask, don't tell. Social Security cards are widely counterfeited in Mexico for sale to illegals about to cross the border. The Social Security Administration routinely warns employers when they discover suspicious numbers entered into its electronic database, but only now the feds are warning employers that they're about to get serious about enforcement. Maybe.

    Many employers, particularly restaurants, chicken pluckers like Tyson's, Perdue, Pilgrim's Pride and other low-pay companies, are suddenly terrified that they will shape up or pay enormous fines. Pilgrim's Pride, one of the largest, has fired a hundred illegals with illegal cards at one plant in Texas, and warns that more firings are coming. The company, which employs 55,000 workers in the United States and Mexico, acknowledged that it dismissed some employees but won't say how many or why, but a spokesman says "there undoubtedly will be additional terminations." The fired workers have been replaced. This is curious, because we've been told by the amnesty advocates that illegal or not, the illegals are needed because they will do the jobs nobody else will do.

    Enforcing the law is always a good thing to do, and a late conversion is better than no conversion at all. The federal government has always enforced the laws it wanted to enforce. You could ask segregationist school boards across the South of a generation ago. So the sudden White House enthusiasm for enforcing immigration law, doing what they said couldn't be done, inevitably raises suspicions about why now. Maybe, say curious minds who want to know, there's a spiteful message here to the millions of Americans who so unceremoniously put the president and his allies in Congress smartly in their place with the collapse of the immigration bill. Rarely has the Washington political establishment been so rudely -- and effectively -- slapped across the face and told to remember that public servants are, after all, servants of an impatient and long-suffering public. Lessons like this sting and smart, and the pols don't like to be reminded of who they actually are. So the reply is rough and blunt: "You want enforcement? We'll give you enforcement."

    The federal dog is determined, however, to sleep in the manger, to hoard the hay he won't eat, just to keep the horse, who will, from getting any of it. Hundreds of towns and cities across America, suddenly responsible for hundreds of thousands of illegals who have flocked to where the low-paying scut work is available, have undertaken to do what the feds are meant to do, but can't, or won't.

    Cities that once sought diversity, and told its cops to wink at illegal immigration for fear of being accused of "racial profiling," are suddenly singing to a different sheet of music. No longer concerned about being called racists, bigots, nativists, traitors or other categories of boogermen, mayors and councilmen are telling the feds that if they can't or won't enforce the law, the towns, cities and counties will. "It's reached the boiling point," says Corey Stewart, the chairman of the Board of Supervisors in Prince William County, Va., which this week voted unanimously to enable county police to check the citizenship status of anyone they stop for other offenses or have "probable cause" to suspect of illegal entry into the United States, and, specifically, Prince William County. This sounds eminently reasonable to the reasonable among us.

    The crackdown on employer scofflaws is so far only a threat, and a spokesman for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency says she doesn't know when to expect the crackdown to actually begin. That's when employers, like their illegal employees, will have to be alert, and ready to slip through the back door and make a run for it.
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    Good story! Hopefully it all goes to plan and its not another "promise" that was never undertaken....
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    Well, Border, that's where ALIPAC comes in, to remind this government that they are obligated to do their job.
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    The 'raids' have always had an air or unreality to me.

    Why spend time and money going after a few here and a few there, when the more effcient thing would be to go into Pilgrim's, Tyson's, Perdue's office, check their employment records and round up the illegals and send them home. Then round up the corporate officers and take them to the pokey.

    So far we don't know what has happened to the few, and it has been few, relatively speaking, they have spent so much time and manpower to round up.

    We do know the media has been pushing it in our faces. Suddenly, there are illegals in the country, the mean old government is going after them, in lots of 5, 20, maybe even 50. Goodness! Only 19M and some odd to go.

    Pilgrim's firing of these people is a PR stunt. Probably something cooked up with the President. If they are already replaced - who replaced them?

    Did they hire Americans? Or did the government allow Pilgrim's to bring in more 'quasi legal' workers from Mexico?

    Maybe that's what Pilgrim's and the government wants to do anyway. They will have a big show of firing, or rounding up a few dozen - then the companies can bring in, legally, hundreds more from Mexico.

    All Pilgrim's has to do is funnel their workers through their plants in Mexico and bring them here.

    Maybe Pilgrim's will just send switch them to the Mexico plant and bring workers from there to America.

    Keep your minds open on this - do not accept it at face value.

    A leopard doesn't change it's spot and Pres. Bush and all the other critters in WAshington are not giving up that easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinybobidaho
    Well, Border, that's where ALIPAC comes in, to remind this government that they are obligated to do their job.
    Absolutely!

    Just shot my senator (Clinton) another distasteful email about her support for the hate group La Raza and support for the NAU! I'm going to email her again when I get home... I don't want to use my work email address to get her government address... I emailed her at her campaign site...
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    OK, I know I am posting a discordant note here, but we have to not be flimflammed again.

    Yes, what happened with the amnesty bill was monumental. It was monumental in that for the first time in a very long time, Americans spoke up for their country and they were heard.

    We have to be wary of thinking these people are actually doing something.
    Doing the right thing, that is. They are doing something, but somehow I doubt it is the right thing.

    Remember, these are the very people that have gone to great lengths to hide this for years, to say it didn't happen, to call Americans bigots and racists, to hamstring the BP, persecute BP agents doing their jobs. They voted in a fence, now they are going to take some time to vote the money for it, and they have to 'design' it.

    We cannot believe, surely, that somehow we have forced them into doing their jobs.

    We are not that naive. They have worked too long, too hard, and have too much at stake to just give in that easily.

    Please, please don't be lulled into a false sense of security. These are smokescreens they are sending out. We need to look behind the curtain and see what the man is doing back there.
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    I agree nntrixie! I have long ago adopted a phrase that I heard it goes "Hear me now, believe me later." I think that is certainly what you are saying here. We need to hear what politicans are saying now, and see later if they were on the level. I guess it could be put better in the phrase, "The proof is in the pudding."
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    Quote Originally Posted by avenger
    I agree nntrixie! I have long ago adopted a phrase that I heard it goes "Hear me now, believe me later." I think that is certainly what you are saying here. We need to hear what politicans are saying now, and see later if they were on the level. I guess it could be put better in the phrase, "The proof is in the pudding."
    Well back in '06 or '05 when Bush signed the bill to build the border fence did he do it? And why didn't he? He had some shady deals with the President of Mexico at the time (Vicente Fox Quesada), which is Bush's "friend"....
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    Yes, and so far the pudding is nothing more than thin water, the media is putting out there for us.

    So far, no employers have been penalized. Unless and until that happens, the illegals will come, and they will stay.

    Until the American people wake up and realize the employer is who we are actually at war with, we will continue to loose ground.
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    "Pilgrim's Pride, one of the largest, has fired a hundred illegals with illegal cards at one plant in Texas, and warns that more firings are coming. The company, which employs 55,000 workers in the United States and Mexico, acknowledged that it dismissed some employees but won't say how many or why, but a spokesman says "there undoubtedly will be additional terminations."


    Perhaps this is because of the law suit stating Rico laws against Tyson. It would be great if Tyson was shut down and couldn't do business anymore. The Rico laws are tough. Let's see what happens there.

    hey tiny thought you were taking the day off. LOL


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