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    47 Immigrants Arrested in 4-State Sweep

    47 Immigrants Arrested in 4-State Sweep

    Updated: Friday, 20 Aug 2010, 4:31 PM MDT
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    BOSTON (AP) - Federal immigration officials say a three-month operation in four New England states has led to the arrest of 47 people suspected of being gang members or having ties to gangs.

    U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman Harold Ort said on Friday that many of the suspects had histories of violent crimes including attempted murder, car jacking, assault and battery with dangerous weapons, assault to rape and possession of firearms.

    The suspects were detained in Massachusetts, Maine, Connecticut and Rhode Island.

    The operation targeted foreigners and those born abroad. They will appear before immigration judges, but their criminal status renders them removable from the country within 10 business days.

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    I could find more than this at the corner 7-11

    What a farce

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    The operation targeted foreigners and those born abroad. They will appear before immigration judges, but their criminal status renders them removable from the country within 10 business days.
    Why aren't all illegal invaders removable from the country within 10 business days upon apprehension? This does not seem unreasonable since currently, it can take months to get an illegal invader deported!
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    47 illegal aliens in a 3 month 4 state "sweep"? Is this a joke?!

    Oh my God ... we need to cut funding for ICE and let the states enforce US immigration law. One little Sheriff in Maricopa County has arrested over 44,000 illegal aliens in 3 years in 1 Arizona County.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy


    47 illegal aliens in a 3 month 4 state "sweep"? Is this a joke?!

    Oh my God ... we need to cut funding for ICE and let the states enforce US immigration law. One little Sheriff in Maricopa County has arrested over 44,000 illegal aliens in 3 years in 1 Arizona County.
    I know... sounds to me like they’re not trying very hard! Local police could have each conducted one Home Depot sweep within their jurisdictions, resulting in the arrest of thousands of illegal invaders across the country, many of which are probably convicted felons and God knows what else!
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    158 arrested in Utah's largest ever ICE-led gang enforcement action

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    Quote Originally Posted by Judy


    47 illegal aliens in a 3 month 4 state "sweep"? Is this a joke?!

    Oh my God ... we need to cut funding for ICE and let the states enforce US immigration law. One little Sheriff in Maricopa County has arrested over 44,000 illegal aliens in 3 years in 1 Arizona County.
    I know... sounds to me like they’re not trying very hard! Local police could have each conducted one Home Depot sweep within their jurisdictions, resulting in the arrest of thousands of illegal invaders across the country, many of which are probably convicted felons and God knows what else!
    I know ... but I don't really care at all about the distinction between a criminal illegal alien and just an illegal alien. As far as I'm concerned it makes no difference whether they've been convicted of a felony or not. Every illegal alien should be sought out and deported regardless of felony background. That's why I'm not keen on that Secure Communities program because ICE is targeting criminal elements that thrive on illegal aliens and there is no limit to the criminal elements. You deport 47,000 drug offenders a year ... so what? 2,000,000 more just walked in behind them.

    To stop illegal immigration, you have to enforce the law for the crime of illegal immigration, not pick and choose this one over that one to con the American Public into believing that 1 violent gang member illegal alien is worth 500,000 non gang member illegal aliens. The folly of this fallacy is that the only reason you have the 1 violent gang member illegal alien is because of the other 500,000. Deport the 500,000 and then you don't have violent illegal aliens, because you don't have any illegal aliens.

    And let the states handle it. One of the best reasons for states to enforce US immigration law is right there in the US Constitution, Amendment 11:


    Amendment XI

    The judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by citizens of another state, or by citizens or subjects of any foreign state.
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    Under current law only the federal government can deport people.
    No City, County or State law enforcement officer or agency can deport anyone.

    Q. How can you have an illegal immigrant deported from the US?

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    Only the federal government can issue a deportation order. And then only after due process.
    The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) is the agency that handles these matters.
    Contact information can be found in the Blue Pages (US government agencies) of most phone books.
    Or www.usdoj.gov/ins/

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    Nobody is asking a City, County or State law enforcement officer agency to deport illegal invaders. What we're asking is that local, city and state agencies make the initial arrest and detainment of illegal invaders. Thereafter, ICE should be contacted in order to transport illegal invaders to federal detention facilities, to ready them for processing and then deportation.

    This is exactly what Arizona does and it's working in certain jurisdictions within that state. It's arguably more efficient than ICE going on a three or four state sting operation, lasting months at a time and only arresting 47 illegal invaders. That's a waste of time, money and manpower, especially when local law enforcement officers are likely coming into contact with these same invaders on a regular basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    Nobody is asking a City, County or State law enforcement officer agency to deport illegal invaders. What we're asking is that local, city and state agencies make the initial arrest and detainment of illegal invaders. Thereafter, ICE should be contacted in order to transport illegal invaders to federal detention facilities, to ready them for processing and then deportation.

    This is exactly what Arizona does and it's working in certain jurisdictions within that state. It's arguably more efficient than ICE going on a three or four state sting operation, lasting months at a time and only arresting 47 illegal invaders. That's a waste of time, money and manpower, especially when local law enforcement officers are likely coming into contact with these same invaders on a regular basis.
    Absolutely. However, I was suggesting in my last post that we look at states handling the deportations as well. They would still have deportation hearings through the courts, they would still follow due process of law and all applicable federal law, but they wouldn't be federal courts, they would be state courts, the same type of courts we use now to lock up drug dealers, murderers, rapists, drunk drivers, robbers, larcenists, frauds, identity thieves, trespassers, traffic violators, pedophiles, domestic abusers, gun law violators, assaulters, batterers, white collar criminals, etc., etc., etc.

    Why would aliens have access to different courts than the courts citizens are subjected to? One of the excuses of the federal government in failing to do its duty is that they don't have the resources, they don't have the agents and they don't have the courts.

    Well, the states have more than enough of all of the above. So put these resources, police officers and courts to work solving the illegal immigration problem from A to Z. The feds would continue to be the entity that verifies status for the Deportation Hearing and can assist whenever necessary, but let the state law enforcement officers and state courts who are already trained and experienced in handling and processing law breakers, handle, process and deport illegal aliens.

    It's something we should all think about, because right now, Americans are being gang-banged by a federal government and federal court system that's in cahoots with the illegal aliens and their home countries, instead of doing their job for the American People.

    And under Amendment 11 to the US Constitution, illegal aliens have no rights to our federal court system if their complaint in law or equity is against the actions of a state. Instead of immigration lawyers and illegal alien advocates gang-banging states with federal lawsuits in violation of the 11th Amendment to the US Constitution, they'd have to file their suits in the state they have a complaint with and their appeals would end with the State Supreme Courts like every other state crime.

    During the past 20 years, state law enforcement officers have arrested over 31 million non-violent drug offenders and state courts have processed each and every one of them. Just think if we legalized/regulated/taxed under the FairTax the illegal drug trade, the vast resources that would be freed up at the state level to pursue, arrest, process and deport illegal aliens? Not only would the illegal aliens be gone but so would the foreign-controlled illegal drug trade that perpetuates illegal immigration.

    I'm sure we need to study this aspect more before trying implement it, but if states have the right to sentence someone to life imprisonment or put them to death, then they most certainly have the right and capability to return someone in our country illegally to their home country in accordance with state, federal and constitutional law like they do every single day with millions of cases every year.

    It has become abundantly, glaringly and sadly clear that Americans have lost control of their federal government on the issue of illegal immigration. And until that control is restored, if ever, there is no reason whatsoever to continue to rely on an entity that has proven through its actions and verified beyond any doubt through its public statements that it can't and won't get the job done.

    States should look into this, they really should, because states need to stop the futile position of looking to the federal government to do a job it hasn't done, won't do and in reality can't do with existing resources and attitudes because they've allowed the problem to grow beyond their capability to solve it, and instead use the existing resources of the states from their 800,000 police officers to their some 11,000 county courts to remove illegal aliens from the United States and solve this problem once and for all.

    Furthermore, if states handle this problem A to Z, then we won't need to spend any more money on it, because states can rearrange their own existing court and law enforcement appropriations, realize the full financial benefits of deportation, and be out of the red and into the black on this problem in a jiffy, because their unemployed citizens will be back to work with reflated wages where they should be, their schools will be free of illegal aliens with plenty of space for the future, their hospitals will have ample resources for the citizens they were established to serve, their MediCaid costs will plummet like a rock, their tax revenues will spike like a rocket and everything in their state territory will be as it should have been all along. And when everything is as it should be in a state territory, then everything is as it should be in our nation.

    Finally, if states handle immigration enforcement A to Z, then voters and citizens will once again control the governments they depend on to enforce these laws at all levels of government. In the meantime, we'll continue to work on improving our federal government so that perhaps in the not too distant future, we can actually depend upon it to enforce our laws and promote the best interest of the citizens it was formed to serve and protect.
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