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    ALIPAC: Study Says Foreign Household Workers could boost GDP

    ALIPAC NOTE: Didn't taking care of your children, cooking, and working on your lawn and garden used to be things Americans both male and female enjoyed?

    My wife loves Paula Dean and loves to cook. We both enjoy gardening and when we have children we want to spend as much time with them as possible.

    Of course we will have less time for all that now that it takes more than two incomes to generate the real income once needed for home, health care, appliances, vehicles, and education.

    Wages have not kept up with inflation for almost 35 years now. We have moved from a family wage to a living wage to wherever we are now.

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    Study Says Foreign Household Workers
    Could Boost GDP by Allowing Women to Work

    Household employment of foreign workers
    such as nannies and house cleaners could
    improve wages for native-born workers and
    boost a country's gross domestic product,
    according to a paper released Sept. 21 by
    the Kennedy School's Center for
    International Development at Harvard
    University.


    "When foreign workers perform services
    previously done within households, such as
    cooking, cleaning, and care for children,
    the sick, and the elderly, they free up
    native labor, particularly women's labor
    that had been spent on household
    production, for market production," the
    paper said. It was authored by Harvard
    economics professor Michael Kremer and
    International Monetary Fund economist
    Stanley Watt.


    "Our calibration exercise suggests that
    the admission of 7 percent of the labor
    force as foreign private household workers
    could potentially increase welfare among
    natives by as much as a 1.2 percent
    increase in GDP, the paper said.
    "Moreover, this type of immigration could
    increase the ratio of low-skilled to
    high-skilled native wages by 3.9 percent."


    The paper's conclusions are largely based
    on data from Hong Kong and Singapore, both
    dubbed "new rich" countries by the
    researchers because of recent economic
    development. Both countries have formal
    visa programs for foreign household
    workers. "Old rich" countries in Europe
    and North America also rely on immigrant
    labor for household duties, but those
    immigrant workers are far more likely to
    be undocumented, making their impact
    difficult to quantify.


    In the United States, the Migration Policy
    Institute has used census data to
    calculate that about 271,000 foreign-born
    workers over the age of 16 were employed
    in private household jobs in 2002, making
    up about 1.4 percent of the total foreign
    labor force at that time. Those figures
    include aliens in the country illegally,
    MPI said.


    By contrast, about 415,000 native-born
    workers in the United States had household
    jobs in 2002, accounting for about 0.4
    percent of the native-born workforce,
    according to MPI.

    Study Received Little Attention



    Kremer and Watt first presented their
    findings about household workers at a
    Sept. 9 conference hosted by Harvard
    University's Center for International
    Development. Since that time, the study
    has received little attention, apart from
    a few postings on Web sites advocating
    different policies on immigration.


    "That's what we call the myth of everybody
    owns their own slave," Americans for Legal
    Immigration Political Action Committee
    President William Gheen told BNA Oct. 12.
    ALI-PAC, which solicits contributions from
    individual members, advocates harsh
    penalties for employers that hire
    immigrant workers and is opposed to
    proposals that would provide "amnesty" to
    illegal aliens currently in the United
    States.


    A wire report about the household workers
    study appeared Oct. 11 on the ALI-PAC's
    Web log. "Translation: We rich people need
    maids and nannies so we can go out and
    make more money while our children are
    raised by questionable people," wrote one
    PAC member in response to the posting.


    But National Immigration Forum
    Communications Director Douglas Rivlin
    told BNA Oct. 12 that the study
    illustrates the contributions immigrants
    make to the economy. "Caring for our
    children or our parents, cleaning our
    belongings and homes, feeding us, and any
    number of other services make all of us
    more productive in our particular
    specialties," he said. "Many Americans
    don't always know or appreciate how much
    their everyday lives are touched by and
    improved by the service sector and its
    many immigrant workers."

    'Leakage' Could Dampen Effect



    The researchers point out that the
    countries studied in their paper differ in
    many respects from the United States and
    European countries that do not have formal
    visa programs for foreign household
    workers, and those differences could
    change how those workers impact a
    country's overall economy.


    Specifically, "leakage" by foreign
    household workers into the broader labor
    market could dampen their positive
    economic effects, the paper cautioned.
    Hong Kong, Singapore, and some smaller
    countries in the Middle East have adopted
    "very strong rules" to minimize leakage
    among foreign household workers, it said.


    For example, the paper said, Singapore
    foreign domestic workers must sign
    agreements stating that they will not
    marry a Singaporean citizen or "engage in
    any relationship with a citizen or
    resident that will result in the birth of
    any child."


    "Leakage would likely be greater in
    larger, more ethnically mixed societies,
    with liberal attitudes on civil liberties
    and without a national ID system," the
    paper said.(Embedded image moved to file:
    pic14771.gif)End of article graphic


    By Fawn Johnson
    Copyright © 2006, The Bureau of National Affairs, Inc.
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    They make us sound like a colony of ants!!!!

    Well sorry I raise my own kids and clean my own house and do our own yard work.
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    "Caring for our children or our parents, cleaning our belongings and homes, feeding us, and any number of other services make all of us more productive in our particular specialties," he said. "Many Americans don't always know or appreciate how much their everyday lives are touched by and improved by the service sector and its many immigrant workers."
    The arrogance of this statement is astonishing. He makes it sounds as if having servants, live-in nannies, gardeners and cooks is the norm in American society. The reality is that this is restricted to the wealthy few. Having such domestic help is a luxury that few can afford.

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    Is this what Hillary meant when she said it takes a village to raise a kid? Well we certainly have a bunch of village idiots in our government followed by the king village idiot himself in the WH.
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    Damn the effects on the the GDP, some things are just more important!

    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" ** Edmund Burke**

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    Ditto AmericanElizabeth and Kate!

    I take care of my family, house and yard work. No need to hire anyone. I don't buy their case that this that would be good for the country. I think Americans would rather see wages increase to keep up with inflation and have the option to have one income support the household.

    Let the illegals go home and do their own housework, yardwork and childrearing!!
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    Sorry Charlie,

    But there is no way in hell I'm letting someone in my home that has not been screened for infectious disease and past crimes.

    The real beneficiaries here are not American families or women, it is corporations that have cheaper labor cleaning their offices and cultivating their grounds.

    There's no way in hell I would even want an illegal alien trimming the bushes outside my window and looking in on my wife and children and belongings.

    After he or she broke the law coming into America, stole someone's identity or engaged in document fraud, stole a job, stole some tax resource somewhere along the line, well I'm sure he or she is just ready to be my trusted low wage worker after that.

    No worries he/she would steal or take anything else right?

    I'm going to go clean our own toilets right now to make myself feel better about this report.

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    I am reminded of my experience in Mexico.

    I had gone there in 1977 under a six month visitors visa and found that my budget was off and the savings I had traveled with were not sufficient funds for Mexico City. I tried to find a work for accomodadions exchange and fund that the Mexicans make it difficult for anyone without proper papers to find even unpaid work.

    I have family members who had migrated to Mexico 50 years in he past and become Mexican and contacted them regarding a place to stay. I was offered an elder care position with them in Tampico. My cousin who was 59 wanted someone who could speak English to look after his mother. She had an Indian who helped with hygiene but wanted a conversation partner.

    Cousin Leslie had some real estate investments he wanted to look after and my being there would free up some of his time.
    I was told that despite my lack of an FM3 workers visa they could employ me for the length of my visitors visa. Instead I ended up deciding to cut my trip short.

    PS My cousins nephew became a consul here.
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    Though I could probably hire some type of occasional cleaning and gardening help, as busy as I am with working full-time, I refuse to and much prefer to do as much as possible myself. The physical work is good exercise, keeps me fit, gives me an excuse to be outdoors and time to think. And, personally, I hate the idea of having someone 'serve' me. I guess I'm much too self-sufficient.

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    I'm so confused again!

    What the heck happened to HIRING AMERICANS?
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