Thread: America Puts on New Face - Diversity

Originally Posted by Captainron

The only way that these people can all hope to find jobs---and jobs that pay at the level they anticipate--is by artificially swelling the population with low level immigrant labor. Peter Schiff, WSJ writer and president of the currency firm, Euro-Pacific Capital, is one analyst who has observed this trend and predicted its effects on the US economy.
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/edito ... /0418.html

Education is a very fine thing and to remain a leader in exports we need people who can stay ahead of the competition. Too many people seeking service jobs creates an artificial tension. The Education Industry has become, perhaps unwittingly, an ally in the demand for open borders.

Good points. There is a potential for tragedy at both ends, though. The service industry education that many students seek may come with hidden barriers: how many students graduating with a management degree will be disqualified for jobs because they must pass a test for perfect Spanish speaking and writing skills. Such new service sector "high level" management jobs would go to immigrant students from rich families in countries where Spanish is spoken. It might be happening already if companies find themselves hiring new MBA's for the retail sector who came in from such countries as Argentina and Venezuela where a rich segment of those populations speak educated Spanish. In such a scenario American citizens would always be on the losing end of the job market.

The article above has some interesting points that correlate to the "dumbing down" of American hiring education. Again, such a "big box" cheap education is going to do American students no good if foreigners are encouraged to jump ahead of American citizens in the hiring proces:

"If loans dry up, universities will be forced to slash their bureaucracies and substantially reduce tuitions. Ironically the silver lining here is that with low tuitions students will no longer need the loans that kept tuitions so high in the first place."

In other words by 2050 or sooner we will become a 3rd world country....we can all see which way Calif. went.

Good points millere! However, a depressed economy is also a factor when considering tuition rates, irrespective of how reduced they may become. With higher unemployment rates across this country, even a reduced tuition may prove to be a burden that cannot be met by families across this country.

It's really a catch 22 situation. Loans may keep tuitions inflated, but without a robust economy to generate educational income, potential students find themselves without the means to attend college without such loans...

Good points. There is a potential for tragedy at both ends, though. The service industry education that many students seek may come with hidden barriers: how many students graduating with a management degree will be disqualified for jobs because they must pass a test for perfect Spanish speaking and writing skills. Such new service sector "high level" management jobs would go to immigrant students from rich families in countries where Spanish is spoken. It might be happening already if companies find themselves hiring new MBA's for the retail sector who came in from such countries as Argentina and Venezuela where a rich segment of those populations speak educated Spanish. In such a scenario American citizens would always be on the losing end of the job market.

Indeed. There are a number of pitfalls in the higher education process,especially liberal arts degrees, as hordes of draft-dodging Baby boomers found out in the 1970's. (And probably a good number of GI Bill college grads found out earlier.) No degree is any guarantee of a career, let alone a well paying one. College and graduate school grads can find themselves easily in a dead end. The demand for Spanish fluency is an additional requirement that reflects both a local demographic trend and a global market need. being able to work with elderly clients would be another, current, demographically determined qualification.

But the bottom line is that colleges don't really care what happens after you graduate-----whether you were prepared for real circumstances, whether foreigners will take the job you trained for, whether your industry will become obsolete----they mainly want to make sure that you are paying your bills to them while you are there. It's just like businesses that sell you any other product---what happens later is inconsequential, just as long as they get their money. As long as there is no legal liability.

What I am getting at is that higher education has turned into a panacea. I'm not saying that someone like a nurse should not be college educated. Heavens, No! But that it is an overworked ideal and can only continue at the current pace in conjunction with a swelling population. A lot of college grads do totally worthless or even harmful things--and a lot of people without degrees provide lasting value. I have only two years of college yet have been building things that will be valuable for decades, or even centuries, to come.