Thread: Amnesty/immigration "reform" talking points explai

Here are some links to our discussions of the talking points used by amnesty/comprehensive immigration reform supporters. See each link for a summary of the talking point, a description of why it's wrong or misleading, and examples of it being used by those supporters.

"Reform" supporters very rarely say anything new; one of our goals is to simply annotate news reports and editorials with links to the following discussions in order to save time:

•reform not amnesty: discusses the claim that immigration "reform" isn't amnesty.
•amnesty require: a Center for American Progress-inspired talking point designed to appeal to those who support our laws.
•deportations false choice: many supporters offer a false choice between mass deportations and an amnesty, failing to mention attrition.
•immigration line: some supporters claim that amnestied illegal aliens can get in the back of the line for citizenship, but the line doesn't really have an "end". Also discusses the impact that adding millions of new applicants would have both on legal immigrants and on the U.S.
•immigration vulnerable: many supporters try to pull heartstrings by falsely claiming that illegal aliens are vulnerable; they fail to note that as a group Illegal aliens have a great deal of power because they have very powerful protectors including those who make this false claim.
•welcome the stranger: a selective interpretation of the Bible; used by religious leaders and some others.
•false compassion: many supporters falsely claim that "reform" is the humanitarian choice.
•secure the border: some who claim they want border security are simply attempting to mislead.
Additional talking points will be added to this list in the near future.

http://24ahead.com/amnesty-immigration- ... -explained

The reality is that we don't need reform, we need enforcement.

It seems that the government doesn’t want to put into effect our current immigration laws because the laws run contrary to the government's agenda. Instead the government wants to by-pass current immigration laws and creates new laws to install Amnesty and they expect the American people to follow the new laws. And the expectation will be followed by legal ramifications if the American people resist.

So the government doesn't enforce laws, that don't fall in line with their agenda, yet, the American people are supposed to support new laws that run contrary to our Constitution. Obama and Hitler belong to the same philosophical base. Be warned America, he needs to be impeached!

"•false compassion: many supporters falsely claim that "reform" is the humanitarian choice. "


Yes, these people are truly clueless when it comes to the involvement of the American people, and especially "conservatives," with humanitarian issues,. Americans are contributing $100 billion per year to international philanthropy. Moreover the costs of accomplishing a project in a developing nation is way below the same thing in the US. Therefore it makes no sense to continue to "import poverty."

Example: rising populations require new schools and medical facilities in US cities. The population increase is due to illegal immigration. However, building a comparable school or clinic in one of the nations these people may have come from would cost perhaps only one-tenth of the US counterpart. Mainly because the labor costs are far lower.

Originally Posted by ELE

The reality is that we don't need reform, we need enforcement.

If you look at the recommendations of the Jordan Immigration Reform Commission, they included enforcement, reduced legal immigration, elimination of chain immigration, strictly limited "guest workers", and absolutely no amnesty.

So of course the OBLers take the name of this bi partisan commission, add "Comprehensive" to it, and reverse all the recommendations!!! It's not reform at all, it's a continuation and expansion of the current "broken system"!!

I think anytime a newspaper writes an article in support of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform", we should fire back that they have become like Orwell's "Ministry of Truth", because there is no reform to it at all, it is the opposite of what the Barbara Jordan Immigration Reform Commission recommended, it is simply more of what broke the immigration system in the first place (non enforcement and amnesty).

The MSM calling illegal aliens "immigrants" is another example of their Orwellian propaganda.