Thread: Armed standoff along U.S. border

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Originally Posted by jean

Just emailed Sara Carter, hopefully she will respond.
Thank you cayla.
Will post if I hear a reply.

when you open the link on the ontario paper, there is no date

Sara Carter doesnt work for the ontario paper anymore
shes with the Washington TIMES

Originally Posted by Mayday

This was posted on the Patriots Border Alliance site last night:

REPORT FROM OPERATION ALLIED MINUTEMEN:
MEXICAN MILITARY YARDS FROM BORDER & PBA POST

UPDATE

Just getting off the phone with the Minutemen on this particular post, and the Sector Chief-Pineapple 6.

The events of today started early this AM. Minuteman "Will" posted early this AM and began seeing vehicle traffic (civilian) no more than 1 mile east of his post. His post is right on the border, so 1 mile east along the border is where this action is occurring. This dirt road runs east to west just inside the border of Mexico and is a common route for human/drug smugglers to drop off loads for trips north. No special activity was noted this AM.

Early this afternoon, the Minuteman on post observed a blue van (civilian) traversing back and forth across the US/Mexican border in an area where there is no fence. This location is only several hundred yards from where current US government fence building had been occuring until its recent shut down this week. Near this location of activity he then observed at least 3 armed Mexican soldiers and at least 1 Mexican Army vehicle holed up at an old shack on the Mexican side. Our Minuteman was observing via binoculars. The soldiers and truck were then hidden behind the shack from our view. The soldiers would then come one at a time out of the shack, weapon strung across the front with binoculars to watch the Minuteman post nearly 1 mile west from the soldiers' position. This went on for the rest of the afternoon. No illegal activity noted.

The Sector Chief was advised and arrived on post. USBP agents in a scope-truck also came out to this area.

Tonight, as we have a thermal scope on the Mexican Military position, we are seeing vehicle lights on thier position. We have no indication that anyone other than the civilian van had crossed during this activity. We also suspect the soldiers are checking out the new fence area as well. We are hopeful that any activity tonight will be closely watched by the USBP scope-truck and our Minutemen as well.

We are all aware of the Mexican Military helping the drug cartels with crossing the border. Earlier this week there was a major confrontation in Texas between the USBP and the Mexican Military. What we witnessed today was a minor event, although odd.

The wind on post tonight is strong and brings the wind chill down quite a bit, in fact the Minuteman reporting in; his teeth were chattering from the bitter wind. If there are IAs in that area, they will certainly be moving tonight just to stay warm.

See you on the border.


Stacey O'Connell
Minuteman
Patriots Border Alliance

MEXICAN MILITARY SPOTTED LESS THAN A MILE FROM PBA POST

Confirmed with P6 only moments ago, Mexican Military have set up only yards from the border across from a PBA post in Cochise County AZ. Unknown number of soldiers/drug smugglers at this point, they are hidden and being watched carfeully as I write this. Glenn Spencer and his team is on site, along with some Minutemen, cameras at the ready, along with other items. USBP just arrived to observe as well.

More info to follow as I get updated with a full report this evening.

http://www.patriotsborderalliance.com/

I got this email last nite also

I read the related articles. Scary....

http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_3430815 ... st_emailed
MSNBC Video Interview
• Reporter Sara A. Carter MSNBC interview on Border incursion
Related Articles:
• Homeland chief plays down Mexican incursion reports
• Mexican troops aiding smugglers, says report
• Border agents unaware of gang death threat
• Report: MS-13 gang

I believe these are old stories:
http://www.dailybulletin.com/beyondborders

Well, well, look at this!
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Mexican military, U.S. police have border standoff in Texas
'Bad guys in 3 vehicles set up mounted machine guns'

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Posted: October 17, 2007
3:47 p.m. Eastern



© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

Mexican soldiers and civilian smugglers engaged in an armed standoff with nearly 30 American law enforcement officials on the southern U.S. border, according to Texas police and the FBI.

At a spot more than 200 yards inside the U.S., Mexican Army troops set up several mounted machine guns when U.S. Border Patrol agents called for backup Monday, the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin of Ontario, Calif., reported.

The paper said Mexican military Humvees were towing what appeared to be thousands of pounds of marijuana across the border into the U.S., according to Chief Deputy Mike Doyal of the Hudspeth County Sheriff's Department.

The incident took place on the Rio Grande near Neely's Crossing, about 50 miles east of El Paso.

"It's been so bred into everyone not to start an international incident with Mexico that it's been going on for years," Doyal told the Daily Bulletin. "When you're up against mounted machine guns, what can you do? Who wants to pull the trigger first? Certainly not us."

Confirming the afternoon encounter, FBI spokeswoman Andrea Simmons told the paper, "Bad guys in three vehicles ended up on the border. People with Humvees, who appeared to be with the Mexican Army, were involved with the three vehicles in getting them back across."

Deputies captured one vehicle and found 1,477 pounds of marijuana inside, according to Doyal, who added Mexican soldiers set fire to one of the Humvees stuck in the river.

Such incidents are common, Doyal told the Daily Bulletin. Last November, his deputies were called on to back up agents from the Fort Hancock border patrol station in Texas after confronting more than six fully armed men dressed in Mexican military uniforms.

Armed with machine guns, the men were trying to bring more than three tons of marijuana across the border in military vehicles.

Doyal insisted the federal government must do something about the incursions, pointing out the deputies and border agents are not equipped for combat.

But Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff today played down the reports of Mexican military incursions, suggesting many could have been mistakes or criminals dressed in military garb. Last week, Mexican officials denied their military made any incursions.

The Daily Bulletin reported, however, border agents interviewed over the past year believe the confrontations were with Mexican military personnel.

A story by the paper last year highlighted a Department of Homeland Security document reporting 216 incursions by Mexican soldiers during the previous 10 years.

Chertoff downplayed the reports at that time, as well, calling them "overblown."

But border agents contend otherwise.

"We're sitting ducks," said one who spoke to the Daily Bulletin on condition of anonymity. "The government has our hands tied."

As WND reported in February 2006, an American law enforcement officer and news crew in Hudspeth County, Texas, witnessed an armed incursion into the U.S. by men dressed in Mexican army attire, the second such incident in two weeks.

Mexican officials have said their military is forbidden from traveling within three miles of the border, though U.S. border residents repeatedly have spotted mobile patrols of Mexican military units traversing roads that run directly parallel to the international boundary. Mexico says the armed men crossing into the U.S. are paramilitary forces loyal to drug-smuggling cartels.

Republican Reps. Duncan Hunter and David Drier of California last week asked Chertoff, the House Judiciary Committee, the House Homeland Security Committee and the House International Relations Committee to investigate the incursions.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a ... E_ID=58196

Mexican soldiers and civilian smugglers engaged in an armed standoff with nearly 30 American law enforcement officials on the southern U.S. border, according to Texas police and the FBI.

Amazing...I didn't see anything on the News....why am I so NOT surprised...sheeezzzzzz

I wish ...Lou or Glenn or somebody would hammer this report...because everyoe else is not going to bring it to primetime...hey what about Rich Sanchez.... just kidding

Chertoff is incompetent , he need to go!! but then so is the president.
I agree we sould have the military on the border, dang it, we pay for them they should be protecting us, not Irag's borders!

Los Zetas. Mexican military deserters and renegades. They had been trained by U.S. Special Ops, but afterwards they went over to the cartels. Happens all the time. The U.S. and Mexican governments deny there is any military involvement, while ignoring los Zetas, the actual criminals.

In the DailyBulletin.com , "Article Date: 01/23/2006 12:00:23 AM PST" is at the top right of the article by Carter and Ruiz.

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