Thread: Armed standoff along U.S. border

Armed standoff along U.S. border
By Sara A. Carter and Kenneth Todd Ruiz, Staff Writers
Inland Valley Daily Bulletin
Oct 16, 2007

Mexican soldiers and civilian smugglers had an armed standoff with nearly 30 U.S. law enforcement officials on the Rio Grande in Texas Monday afternoon, according to Texas police and the FBI.

Mexican military Humvees were towing what appeared to be thousands of pounds of marijuana across the border into the United States, said Chief Deputy Mike Doyal, of the Hudspeth County Sheriff's Department.

Mexican Army troops had several mounted machine guns on the ground more than 200 yards inside the U.S. border -- near Neely's Crossing, about 50 miles east of El Paso -- when Border Patrol agents called for backup. Hudspeth County deputies and Texas Highway patrol officers arrived shortly afterward, Doyal said.

"It's been so bred into everyone not to start an international incident with Mexico that it's been going on for years," Doyal said. "When you're up against mounted machine guns, what can you do? Who wants to pull the trigger first? Certainly not us."

An FBI spokeswoman confirmed the incident happened at 2:15 p.m. Pacific Time.

"Bad guys in three vehicles ended up on the border," said Andrea Simmons, a spokeswoman with the FBI's El Paso office. "People with Humvees, who appeared to be with the Mexican Army, were involved with the three vehicles in getting them back across."

Simmons said the FBI was not involved and referred inquiries to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

ICE did not return calls seeking comment.

Doyal said deputies captured one vehicle in the incident, a Cadillac Escalade reportedly stolen from El Paso, and found 1,477 pounds of marijuana inside. The Mexican soldiers set fire to one of the Humvees stuck in the river, he said.

Doyal's deputies faced a similar incident on Nov. 17, when agents from the Fort Hancock border patrol station in Texas called the sheriff's department for backup after confronting more than six fully armed men dressed in Mexican military uniforms. The men -- who were carrying machine guns and driving military vehicles -- were trying to bring more than three tons of marijuana across the Rio Grande, Doyal said.

Doyal said such incidents are common at Neely's Crossing, which is near Fort Hancock, Texas, and across from the Mexican state of Chihuahua.

"It happens quite often here," he said.

Deputies and border patrol agents are not equipped for combat, he added.

"Our government has to do something," he said. "It's not the immigrants coming over for jobs we're worried about. It's the smugglers, Mexican military and the national threat to our borders that we're worried about."

Citing a Jan. 15 story in the Daily Bulletin, Reps. David Dreier, R-Glendora, and Duncan Hunter, R-San Diego, last week asked the House Judiciary Committee, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, the House Homeland Security Committee and the House International Relations Committee to investigate the incursions. The story focused on a Department of Homeland Security document reporting 216 incursions by Mexican soldiers during the past 10 years and a map with the seal of the president's Office of National Drug Control Policy, both of which were given to the newspaper.

Requests by Dreier, chairman of the House Rules Committee, and Hunter were made in jointly signed letters.

On Wednesday, Chertoff played down the reports of border incursions by the Mexican military. He suggested many of the incursions could have been mistakes, blaming bad navigation by military personnel or attributing the incursions to criminals dressed in military garb.

Mexican officials last week denied any incursions made by their military.

But border agents interviewed over the past year have discussed confrontations those they believe to be Mexican military personnel.

"We're sitting ducks," said a border agent speaking on condition of anonymity. "The government has our hands tied."


http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_3430815 ... st_emailed

I WISH WE WOULD HAVE AN "INCIDENT" WITH MEXICO. FCOL. EVERY INCH OF MEXICO IS CORRUPT TO THE CORE. AND BUSH WANTS TO INTEGRATE WITH THIS COUNTRY? WHAT A DUMB AZZ

This story is incredible. This should be on the front page of every newspaper in the country, and Bush should be hauled before Congress to explain why he is allowing this to occur.

Mexican Army troops had several mounted machine guns on the ground more than 200 yards inside the U.S. border -- near Neely's Crossing, about 50 miles east of El Paso -- when Border Patrol agents called for backup. Hudspeth County deputies and Texas Highway patrol officers arrived shortly afterward, Doyal said.

ummm, just what would Bush consider to be an invasion and attack against the US if this is not it?

if this isnt an invasion or an act of war. i dont know what the hell is

hold on, this sounds like the invasions stuff from last Feb or March
because the link does not show a date to it.

Funny. I was thinking we SHOULD HAVE AN INCIDENT as I was reading this and then I saw your post. An incident would get results. Maybe they should call the Minutemen.

jamesw62 said:

hold on, this sounds like the invasions stuff from last Feb or March
because the link does not show a date to it.

The link shows 10/16/2007.

This is a few months old, but after what happened in the opening post, it is hysterical.

Mexico sends US diplomatic note over alleged border incursion

Posted By: Carolyn Hileman* on March 8, 2007
Filed Under Immigration

MEXICO CITY — Mexico has sent a diplomatic note to the United States objecting to an alleged incursion into Mexican territory by U.S. Border Patrol agents trying to extinguish a fire, the country’s Foreign Relations Department said Tuesday. The incursion allegedly took place on Monday, as Border Patrol agents stationed in Sonoita, Ariz., were trying to quash a brush fire on the U.S. side that quickly spread into Mexico, the department said. The Foreign Relations Department said it was notified of the incident on Tuesday by the U.S. Embassy in Mexico, which reported that the border agents immediately returned to their side of the border after the fire was out.

http://www.americanconservativedaily.co ... incursion/

Next time, let 'em burn

First thing's first..

Fire Chertoff for being a complete idiot that is stuck on stupid

Second

Put up the the F'n fence

third

Put the military on the border with bigger boom sticks

here is a link if anyone wants to see the video. I have not looked at it because it would give my dial up a nervous breakdown

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=99d_1190759616&c=1