Thread: Shift in Europe Seen in Debate on Immigrants

Shift in Europe Seen in Debate on Immigrants

By NICHOLAS KULISH
Published: July 27, 2011

BERLIN — Less than a week after the mass killings in Norway, evidence of a shift in the debate over Islam and the radical right in Europe already appeared to be taking hold on a traumatized Continent.

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Will the Norway Massacre Deflate Europe's Right Wing?

The killings could weaken nationalist fervor in Europe, as the Oklahoma City bombing cooled off militias in the U.S. in the late 1990s.

As the police in Norway and abroad continued to search for potential accomplices, expressions of outrage over the deaths crossed the political spectrum. Members of far-right parties in Sweden and Italy were condemned from within their own ranks for blaming multiculturalism for the attack. A member of France’s far-right National Front was suspended for praising the attacker.

Lurking in the background is the calculation on all sides that such tragedies can drive shifts in public opinion. Nonviolent political parties can hardly be blamed for the violent actions of a terrorist or a homicidal person. But politicians have begun to question inflammatory speech in the debate over immigrants, which has helped fuel the rise of right-leaning politicians across Europe in recent years.

The head of the Social Democratic Party in Germany, Sigmar Gabriel, told the German news service dpa on Wednesday that a trend toward xenophobia and nationalism in the region had fostered the attacks in Norway. In a society where anti-Islamic sentiment and isolation were tolerated “naturally on the margins of society, there will be crazy people who feel legitimized in taking harder measures,â€

Did you see in the evening news tonight they caught another Muslim-American planning on hiting Fort Hood again. And this young man was also in the military in Kentucky. He was AWOL for three weeks.

Originally Posted by uniteasone

Did you see in the evening news tonight they caught another Muslim-American planning on hiting Fort Hood again. And this young man was also in the military in Kentucky. He was AWOL for three weeks.

It's been here at ALIPAC since this morning.

Muslim AWOL US soldier caught with bomb making materials

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-245270.html

Originally Posted by uniteasone

Did you see in the evening news tonight they caught another Muslim-American planning on hiting Fort Hood again. And this young man was also in the military in Kentucky. He was AWOL for three weeks.

And he had been given conscientcious objector status because "as a muslim,he is opposed to war" #1 why did he join the military#2 since when,have Muslims been opposed to war #3 i guess shooting "fish in a barrell" or bombing a military installation isnt an act of war!

The killings could weaken nationalist fervor in Europe, as the Oklahoma City bombing cooled off militias in the U.S. in the late 1990s.

I believe this was the real intention of the Norway shooter. The man was far to intelligent to not know that his mass murder of children would form a backlash against his stated goals.

This is a setup. I can't say how, but I know in my heart this is a setup.

Can anyone explain to me why the Norway shooter could not know that murdering children would hurt the causes he claimed to espouse?

W

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Can anyone explain to me why the Norway shooter could not know that murdering children would hurt the causes he claimed to espouse?

W

He's nuts?

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Can anyone explain to me why the Norway shooter could not know that murdering children would hurt the causes he claimed to espouse?

W

He's nuts?

I would have to agree. I would bet this is his sick reaction to Bin Laden's death. This could be leaderless peons or want-to-bes trying to exact revenge or it could be lone disconnected nuts. Considering what just happened at Fort Hood, I don't think it's going to be the last.

Dixie