Thread: Bush: Plan has permanent ban for illegals

Bush: Plan has permanent ban for illegals
Uses radio address to lobby for Senate's 'amnesty' idea

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: June 23, 2007
5:00 p.m. Eastern



© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com


President Bush today offered the promise of a future permanent ban on illegal aliens in the United States – if the U.S. Senate moves forward with a compromise "comprehensive" immigration reform package that was killed earlier.

"Right now, our laws are ineffective and insufficient. For example, crossing the border illegally carries weak penalties. In addition, participation in illegal gangs is not enough to bar admission into our country," he said on his weekly radio address.

"And when we cannot get other countries to accept the return of their citizens who are dangerous criminals, in most cases our government can only detain these aliens for six months before releasing them into society," he said.

"This is unacceptable. The bill before the Senate addresses these problems. Under this bill, those caught crossing illegally will be permanently barred from returning to the United States on a work or tourist visa.

"Under this bill, anyone known to have taken part in illegal gang activity can be denied admission to our country. And under the bill, we will be able to detain aliens who are dangerous criminals until another country accepts their return," he said.

However, it also grants legal status to the estimated 12-20 million illegal aliens already within the United States, and that has generated considerable opposition among Republicans and even some Democrats.

As WND has reported, Bush has visited Capitol Hill in his efforts to revive the plan that died in the Senate when supporters could not muster the votes to put it on a fast-track.

Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., at the time criticized the proposal for unfairly burdening taxpayers, failing to secure the nation's borders and guaranteeing amnesty for illegal aliens.

Even though the plan is being resurrected, the issue of amnesty still is generating a firestorm for the White House.

As WND reported, White House spokesman Tony Snow ran into a little more than he perhaps was expecting when he appeared on the Laura Ingraham show, as she relentlessly asked the American public's No. 1 question: What is the U.S. government doing to stop the invasion from Mexico?

"Sixty-nine percent of Americans, 85 percent of the GOP, 55 percent of the Democrats want the border enforced," said Ingraham. "Does that affect you guys, or do you guys just blow it off?"

Snow repeated, several times, the Bush administration's talking points on the issue – how the failed comprehensive immigration reform bill would secure the borders, require illegal aliens to pay a fine and require them to "keep their noses clean," and learn English.

But Ingraham, who worked as a speechwriter for two years in the Reagan administration and later served as a law clerk to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas before launching "The Laura Ingraham Show" in 2001, wasn't letting him off the hook.

"Eight-five of the GOP doesn't like what the White House is doing on this," she said. "You're talking the base of this party."

"Tony, why don't people believe you?" she asked. "The majority of your party, people who voted for President Bush … They see the conservative coalition dissolving before their eyes."

Bush said he understands there are concerns – especially about the federal government's ability to secure the border.

"So this bill puts the enforcement tools in place first. And it means more Border Patrol agents, more fencing, more infrared cameras and other technologies at the border. It also requires an employee-verification system based on government-issued, tamper-proof identification cards that will help employers ensure that the workers they hire are legal," he said.

He cited plans for $4.4 billion "for these border security and worksite enforcement efforts."

But he also said it also will be necessary for the country to have "an orderly path for foreign workers to enter our country."

But the concerns about amnesty were unlikely to be allayed as he continued: "Under this bill, these workers [already in the United States] will be given an opportunity to get right with the law. This is not amnesty. There will be penalties for those who come out of the shadows. If they pass a strict background check, pay a fine, hold a job, maintain a clean criminal record, and eventually learn English, they will qualify for and maintain a Z visa," he said.

"The status quo is unacceptable," he said. "We must summon the political courage to move forward with a comprehensive reform bill."

The fragile compromise is due to be reviewed again in the Senate as early as next week.

When it failed earlier, Eagle Forum, a leading pro-family organization founded by Phyllis Schlafly, praised the "tireless efforts" of the American people in voicing their opposition and successfully defeating S. 1348, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007.

"It became obvious that the longer the Senate debated the so-called comprehensive immigration bill, the more the grassroots opposition increased," said Schlafly.

"The United States Senate finally listened to the overwhelming opposition to this amnesty bill," said Eagle Forum Executive Director Jessica Echard. "With calls running hundreds to one opposed, there was no question that we don't want new laws. We simply want our immigration laws, which already exist, enforced."

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a ... E_ID=56336

President Bush today offered the promise of a future permanent ban on illegal aliens in the United States
__________________________________

DOES THIS MAN THINK WE ARE STUPID?
he cant stop it now, how is he going to stop it when its not even in office after january 2009? what an idiot this monkey brain is....
_____________________________________

In addition, participation in illegal gangs is not enough to bar admission into our country
-------------------------
you better change that monkey brain boosh to say it IS ENOUGH TO BAD SOMEONE from this country

GOOD FREAKING GRIEF. TALK ABOUT ARROGANT AND ALSO STUPID

Originally Posted by jamesw62

DOES THIS MAN THINK WE ARE STUPID?

...um, that would be a 'hell yes'!!!

President Bush today offered the promise of a future permanent ban on illegal aliens in the United States – if the U.S. Senate moves forward with a compromise "comprehensive" immigration reform package that was killed earlier.

Just more empty rhetoric. Does this man really think he can blackmail us into submitting to his ridiculous proposals? He should be doing everything is his power to secure our borders now. This isn't Let's Make a Deal, and he's not Bob Barker!

It's your responsibility to secure the borders and enforce our written immigration laws as written without conditions, Mr. President!

The promise of a FUTURE permanent ban??? Good god man the laws that aren't being enforced would have ensured a permanent ban on illegals and we wouldn't be where we are now. jorge is the great deciever!

Originally Posted by Tony Snowjob, treasonous Bush stooge and CFR traitor

Under this bill, these workers [already in the United States] will be given an opportunity to get right with the law. This is not amnesty. There will be penalties for those who come out of the shadows. If they pass a strict background check, pay a fine, hold a job, maintain a clean criminal record, and eventually learn English, they will qualify for and maintain a Z visa,".

What penalty is there when some of these illegals can apply for low income waivers for the fine? Nearly all illegals will claim to be low income.

They will have to "pass a strict background check"?!?! In 24 hours?? This basically means 8 hours, since they will really only run these checks on Govt. time, from 9AM to 5PM, they won't have people staying overtime and overnight to run these background checks. What can they do in 8 hours? And they sure won't take the full day to do a single check. To do 20 million background checks would take 1,000 employees 54.974 years to complete even if they work every holiday and weekend day, which they won't.

How can this Bush spokeshole spew these constant lies and not bat an eyelash?

Originally Posted by jean

Bush: Plan has permanent ban for illegals
Uses radio address to lobby for Senate's 'amnesty' idea

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: June 23, 2007
5:00 p.m. Eastern



© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com


President Bush today offered the promise of a future permanent ban on illegal aliens in the United States – if the U.S. Senate moves forward with a compromise "comprehensive" immigration reform package that was killed earlier.

"Right now, our laws are ineffective and insufficient. For example, crossing the border illegally carries weak penalties. In addition, participation in illegal gangs is not enough to bar admission into our country," he said on his weekly radio address.

"And when we cannot get other countries to accept the return of their citizens who are dangerous criminals, in most cases our government can only detain these aliens for six months before releasing them into society," he said.

"This is unacceptable. The bill before the Senate addresses these problems. Under this bill, those caught crossing illegally will be permanently barred from returning to the United States on a work or tourist visa.

"Under this bill, anyone known to have taken part in illegal gang activity can be denied admission to our country. And under the bill, we will be able to detain aliens who are dangerous criminals until another country accepts their return," he said.

However, it also grants legal status to the estimated 12-20 million illegal aliens already within the United States, and that has generated considerable opposition among Republicans and even some Democrats.

As WND has reported, Bush has visited Capitol Hill in his efforts to revive the plan that died in the Senate when supporters could not muster the votes to put it on a fast-track.

Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., at the time criticized the proposal for unfairly burdening taxpayers, failing to secure the nation's borders and guaranteeing amnesty for illegal aliens.

Even though the plan is being resurrected, the issue of amnesty still is generating a firestorm for the White House.

As WND reported, White House spokesman Tony Snow ran into a little more than he perhaps was expecting when he appeared on the Laura Ingraham show, as she relentlessly asked the American public's No. 1 question: What is the U.S. government doing to stop the invasion from Mexico?

"Sixty-nine percent of Americans, 85 percent of the GOP, 55 percent of the Democrats want the border enforced," said Ingraham. "Does that affect you guys, or do you guys just blow it off?"

Snow repeated, several times, the Bush administration's talking points on the issue – how the failed comprehensive immigration reform bill would secure the borders, require illegal aliens to pay a fine and require them to "keep their noses clean," and learn English.

But Ingraham, who worked as a speechwriter for two years in the Reagan administration and later served as a law clerk to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas before launching "The Laura Ingraham Show" in 2001, wasn't letting him off the hook.

"Eight-five of the GOP doesn't like what the White House is doing on this," she said. "You're talking the base of this party."

"Tony, why don't people believe you?" she asked. "The majority of your party, people who voted for President Bush … They see the conservative coalition dissolving before their eyes."

Bush said he understands there are concerns – especially about the federal government's ability to secure the border.

"So this bill puts the enforcement tools in place first. And it means more Border Patrol agents, more fencing, more infrared cameras and other technologies at the border. It also requires an employee-verification system based on government-issued, tamper-proof identification cards that will help employers ensure that the workers they hire are legal," he said.

He cited plans for $4.4 billion "for these border security and worksite enforcement efforts."

But he also said it also will be necessary for the country to have "an orderly path for foreign workers to enter our country."

But the concerns about amnesty were unlikely to be allayed as he continued: "Under this bill, these workers [already in the United States] will be given an opportunity to get right with the law. This is not amnesty. There will be penalties for those who come out of the shadows. If they pass a strict background check, pay a fine, hold a job, maintain a clean criminal record, and eventually learn English, they will qualify for and maintain a Z visa," he said.

"The status quo is unacceptable," he said. "We must summon the political courage to move forward with a comprehensive reform bill."

The fragile compromise is due to be reviewed again in the Senate as early as next week.

When it failed earlier, Eagle Forum, a leading pro-family organization founded by Phyllis Schlafly, praised the "tireless efforts" of the American people in voicing their opposition and successfully defeating S. 1348, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007.

"It became obvious that the longer the Senate debated the so-called comprehensive immigration bill, the more the grassroots opposition increased," said Schlafly.

"The United States Senate finally listened to the overwhelming opposition to this amnesty bill," said Eagle Forum Executive Director Jessica Echard. "With calls running hundreds to one opposed, there was no question that we don't want new laws. We simply want our immigration laws, which already exist, enforced."

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a ... E_ID=56336

All this tells me is that we are winning sorry it's too late Mr President, No deal. You awoken the sleeping giant now you gonna pay the price.

He's a liar. And he's desperate...he'll say anything to get this bill passed.

Why is he so desperate to give amnesty to the illegals? What behind-the-scenes deals has this traitor made? There's something more to this than meets the eye, and I have a feeling we Americans don't know the half of it.

The ban won't matter. In 10 years, it will be removed when all
the anchor babies & newly minted ex-felon identity theft citizens
start voting.

OK. BOTTOM LINE. NO AMNESTY IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM....OR BY ANY OTHER NAME. THE AMERICAN PUBLIC ALREADY COMPRIMISED IN 1986. SO NOW IT IS OUR TURN. NO AMNESTY UNDER AND CONDITIONS. DEPORT ILLEGALS....ALL OF THEM. DEPORT THEM FCOL. THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE HERE.