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    CA Dems Pushing to Give Illegal Adults Full Healthcare Benefits



    May 21, 2018
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    California Democrats are reportedly pushing to give full healthcare benefits to illegal immigrant adults, which would mean that the Golden State not only may have to raise taxes but will also be a magnet for even more illegal immigrants.

    According to a Monday Politico report, state Senator Ricardo Lara (D-Bell Gardens) is leading the charge by reportedly arguing that “California needs to be a laboratory for social change by taking the lead on progressive causes.”

    “We are trying to address the fact that, whether you like it or not, our undocumented community needs the care, and we are paying for it anyway,” he reportedly said.

    Politico points out that California Democrats are trying to extend the state’s Medi-Cal program this legislative session to nearly 1.2 million illegal immigrant adults who would qualify for it, and “companion bills in the state Assembly and Senate” have already “passed their respective health committees with party-line votes.”

    The cost to expand Medicaid coverage to adult illegal immigrants in California is reportedly projected to cost $3 billion annually.

    California Governor Jerry Brown, who extended Medi-Cal coverage to illegal immigrant children in 2015, has not commented on the pending measures but “is required by law to sign or veto bills passed this session by Sept. 30, just five weeks before the midterm elections.”

    Political and health analysts are reportedly astounded that Democrats are trying to extend healthcare benefits to illegal immigrants before this year’s important midterm elections, reportedly saying that the measure would give Republicans in California relevance “they would never have before” in an election cycle in which House races in California could decide which party controls Congress.

    Paul Ginsburg, director of the USC-Brookings Schaeffer Initiative for Health Policy, told Politico that the proposal would be “fiscally very dangerous” and Jay Bhattacharya, a Stanford physician and health economist, suggested to the outlet that such a plan would have to be paid for with tax increases.

    Bhattacharya also pointed out the obvious—giving full healthcare coverage to illegal immigrant adults will make California, which is already an official “sanctuary” state, even a greater magnet for illegal immigrants.

    The illegal immigrant who murdered Kate Steinle, for instance, told authorities that he came to San Francisco after being previously deported five times because he knew San Francisco was proudly a “sanctuary city.”

    “If you make a program like this available, undocumented workers in other states might be attracted to California because of this,” Bhattacharya, the Stanford physician, reportedly said.

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    Indirectly, good news, I guess. Hopefully voters will wake up and vote anybody out who is for this trash.
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    $3 BILLION INDIRECTLY!!! THAT IS JUST FOR HEALTHCARE...WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER BILLIONS IN COSTS TO TAXPAYERS OF CALIFORNIA

    $3 BILLION A YEAR TO FIX DAMS, ROADS, BRIDGES, SCHOOLS

    VOTE THEM OUT AND DEPORT THEM ALL!
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    Wow, the liberal politicians in California have lost their last brain cog!
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    Like I've said before, the Democrats are on steroids or something in our state re giving things to illegals. Maybe they can somehow tax the rich liberals like in Silicon Valley and Hollywood.
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    Hopefully those DEMOrats have all just put the last nail in their coffin and they are voted out!!!

    What next? "Hug a MS-13 gang member" month????
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    With free health care for illegals, California Democrats hand a big campaign contribu

    With free health care for illegals, California Democrats hand a big campaign contribution to the GOP's Cox

    May 22, 2018
    By Monica Showalter

    For Democrats, succoring illegals and doling out nationalized "free" health care are signature issues. What better way to enact that agenda than to offer California's abundant illegal aliens free state health care?

    That's the scheme they've cooked up, in their relentless push to make California a West Coast imitation of socialist Venezuela. It's so bad that it's likely to draw California voters toward Republicans.

    Here's what's going on, from Politico's Victoria Colliver:

    California is poised to become the first state in the nation to offer full health coverage to undocumented adults even as the Trump administration intensifies its crackdown by separating families at the border.

    The proposal – which would build on Gov. Jerry Brown's 2015 decision to extend health coverage to all children, regardless of immigration status – is one of the most daring examples yet of blue-state Democrats thumbing their nose at President Donald Trump as they pursue diametrically opposed policies, whether on immigration, climate change, legalized marijuana or health care.


    Up until now, it would probably go over slightly negatively in ordinary times, with many Californians nodding and moving on.

    But there's a second factor: in the gig economy, Californians are paying for Obamacare insurance in house-sized payments, as well as losing their privacy in the process (telemarketers are having a field day), while illegal aliens, with zero papers, can now come on over here, and if their incomes are at a certain legal (such incomes can be as high as around $50,000 a year for a family of four in this program), they can sign up for the California medical welfare known as Medi-Cal and get a free ride. No deductibles, no drug costs, no out-of-pocket, and full dental and vision care for adults, plus a wide, wide network of top-notch doctors who will care for their every need.

    Not one of these things is available to Californians trapped in the nightmare of Obamacare's individual markets, with its gigantic costs, monster out-of-pocket payments, gargantuan deductibles, narrow networks, shutout from important HMO networks that provide top care, meager choice of doctors, zero dental care except to pay for other people's children, larded up drug-addict rehab costs even if you are not and never will be a drug addict, padded premiums from pregnancy costs even if you will never be pregnant, and other huge costs embedded in those Obamacare bills.

    That's what makes this free medical care for illegals plan such bad stuff, a terrible incentive that rewards those who thumb their noses at the law and penalizes further those who must live above board in the actual California system.

    The bill's author, Sen. Ricardo Lara – a guy who got his high office by representing 652,106 voting-age adults in his district of 926,972 people, got into his office with all of 177,971 voting for him, about a 27% turnout if all of those voters were registered to vote – uses the logic that if President Trump won't legalize illegal aliens, it's no reason why his state can't get health care "right." As one of his allies put it: "But just because we have bad immigration policy does not mean we shouldn't have good health policy." Lara himself also claims that since illegals are already flooding emergency rooms, might as well pay for their full ride on health care since we are already paying.

    If Lara were a normal politico, his logic would be to help Californians forced into the nightmare of Obamacare, but given that he's a leftist, one can rest assured, such people will never be helped because keeping them poor through the high cost of Obamacare is state policy – and beggars are easier to please. Much easier to get illegals on the string, attract more of them, eventually make them voters, and then raise taxes as the system gets further overwhelmed. He'll feel good about himself and get new Democratic voters to boot. Since Californians have always accepted the heavy burden of Obamacare, they'll be easy to hit up for more taxes to pay for the $3 billion he calculates will be needed for illegals' new free ride. (Rest assured: that $3 billion will rise as the state becomes a magnet for free health care, not just from other states, but from other countries.)

    As a Californian, it's natural for me to think the bill's passage is far-fetched, given the magnitude of this cost and the outrageous gift it amounts to for lawbreakers over the law-abiding.

    But this is California, and the one-party state is capable of anything, actually, because of what it already has shown it can do.

    This is why it's quite likely to rouse support for a change of course in the state's ruling apparatus among voters, as an analyst consulted for the Colliver piece brings up.

    "It would give Republicans relevance in California they would never have before," said David McCuan, a political analyst and political science professor at Sonoma State University. He suggested the proposal would energize Republican voters, who make up a quarter of the electorate, as well as conservative-leaning unaffiliated voters.

    This is on target.

    Contrary to the legends dating from the George W. Bush era, California is not a solid blue state. There's still a lot of Reagan country left in it.

    It does have a gerrymandered state composition and a ruling elite in the legislature that rewards districts that have few people who can vote (read: high illegal counts), but even that's not unbreakable. The fact that it has many conservative representatives in Congress and an active rebellion of mostly Southern California cities to the state's sanctuary state movement suggests that at least some voters are not willing to put up with solid socialism and the incentivization of lawbreaking.

    In fact, this free health care for illegals while we pay through the nose idea pretty well looks like a tipping point. Colliver reports that some are thinking it will galvanize California voters to support the gubernatorial campaign of conservative John Cox, a tough guy who openly supports President Trump and who's now third in the polls. (That third placement is problematic as it signals he may not make the runoff after the June 5 primary. The withdrawal for the other Republican candidate, Travis Allen, perhaps with a promise of a good job in a Cox governorship, is getting rather important.)

    Right now, with this health care for illegals scheme, the road has never looked smoother for Cox to take the governor's slot. It's so strong that it ought to be called a campaign contribution to the Cox campaign, given the number of people looking for relief from Obamacare and the salt this shifting of resources represents on that wound.

    There's a clarity forming with this free health care scheme for illegals, and the ground is clear for it to sink in with the electorate as the leftward slide of the state continues. With this outrageous scheme on the table, there's a good chance going forward now that Cox can win – simply because he must.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog..._campaign.html
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    Harrington on Push to Give Illegal Immigrants Free Healthcare in California: No Wonde

    Harrington on Push to Give Illegal Immigrants Free Healthcare in California: No Wonder State Has ‘One of the Highest Poverty Rates in the Country’



    BY: Washington Free Beacon Staff
    May 22, 2018 12:54 pm

    Washington Free Beacon senior writer Elizabeth Harrington appeared on Fox News' "America's Newsroom" Tuesday where she discussed a proposal gaining steam in California to offer free health care to illegal immigrants.

    "With policies like these, it's no wonder California has one of the highest poverty rates in the country," Harrington said.

    "Think about it," she continued. "Since 1992, the state has spent $950 billion fighting poverty. And what do they have to show for it? They now account for a third of the entire country's welfare recipients."

    Harrington said that with policies like the one proposed, even more illegal immigrants will flock to California.

    "If you give something away for nothing, you're going to attract more undocumented aliens to the state," she said.

    She suggested that far-left policies of the sort will, at the same time, motivate law-abiding citizens to flee the state and the Democratic party.

    "If the Democratic Party keeps going the way of California with these far-left policies, they're going to not only–how we see happening– flee the state, they're going to flee the party," she said.

    Later in the segment, Harrington mentioned that some parts of California are fighting back, with five of its cities joining the Trump administration in suing the state government for its sanctuary city policies.

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/harri...rates-country/
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    "Think about it," she continued. "Since 1992, the state has spent $950 billion fighting poverty. And what do they have to show for it? They now account for a third of the entire country's welfare recipients."

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    Ricardo Lara is another one of our anchor babies born to illegal immigrants from Mexico.
    More and more I keep reading comments calling for conservatives or anyone who does not agree with the new progressive government to get out of California. Reminds me of the Reconquista movement to drive anglos out of California.
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