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    CA - Police Release Illegal Alien Who Then Murders Girlfriend

    Posted By Ryan Saavedra On 6:12 PM 08/24/2017

    A sanctuary city in California reportedly didn’t cooperate with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials, giving the federal agency no time to pick up an illegal alien they released from custody, who then allegedly murdered his girlfriend two weeks later.

    Santa Rosa police arrested 38-year-old Nery Israel Estrada-Margos on August 18 after he turned himself in for allegedly beating his girlfriend — 42-year-old Veronica Cabrera Ramirez — to death, the Santa Rosa Press Democrat reported.

    Estrada-Margos was in police custody before the murder on August 2 for felony domestic battery charges after he allegedly beat Ramirez following a heated argument.

    Police released Estrada-Margos from custody on August 3 – despite a detainer request lodged against him by ICE officials – after he posted the required $30,000 bail.

    Sonoma County Sheriff Rob Giordano deflected blame from his county, an official sanctuary city, by giving misleading statements to local media outlets who then blamed ICE.

    “We did notify ICE of his release date and time. Sometimes they pick up, sometimes they don’t,” Giordano said.

    What Giordano did not tell reporters was that Sonoma County gave ICE officials only 16 minutes to travel over 60 miles to pick up Estrada-Margos before releasing him from custody – a distance that according to Google Maps can take 90 minutes to travel.

    James Schwab, ICE’s spokesman in San Francisco, documented the incident in a statement given to The Daily Caller.

    “Immigration detainers serve as a legally authorized request, upon which a law enforcement agency may rely, to continue to maintain custody of an alien for up to 48 hours so that ICE may assume custody for removal purposes,” Schwab wrote. “At 8:20 p.m. the Sonoma County Sheriff’s Office notified ICE’s local office that Mr. Estrada was pending release. The Sheriff’s Office then released Mr. Estrada 16 minutes later at 8:36 p.m.”

    Schwab noted that the “vast majority” of notifications that ICE receives from Sonoma County, especially over the last six months, “have failed to provide sufficient advance notification to pick up these criminals.”

    “This case underscores yet again why immigration detainers are such a crucial enforcement tool and why it is highly problematic, and even tragic, when jurisdictions choose not to comply,” Schwab continued. “ICE continues to seek to collaborate with law enforcement agencies in northern California and nationwide to promote public safety and prevent potentially dangerous criminal aliens from being released back into our communities.”

    California openly defied President Trump’s vowed crackdown on illegal immigration earlier this year when the state passed legislation that prohibits law enforcement agencies in California from cooperating with ICE.

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    Everyone involved in this scam to release this illegal alien knowing he would be gone before ICE could pick him up needs to be fired.
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    The authorities who are responsible for this gives these illegal alien criminal trespassers a free pass and emboldens them to commit further crimes thinking they are above the Law!

    These people need to be tracked down, fired and relieved of their duties!
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    I'm still not understanding this, and I'm not understanding why everyone (law enforcement wise) is seemingly accepting it.

    This man committed a crime. What's to debate? I don't care if he is here from Mars, do something to protect the people from that criminal.

    Why is he, as a criminal, simply not held and tried. Why does his being an illegal give him a pass that no one else has?

    Everyone is flimflamming us with this idea they can't hold or charge an illegal.

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    Recent killing by undocumented immigrant puts Sonoma County Sheriff’s Office and ICE

    Recent killing by undocumented immigrant puts Sonoma County Sheriff’s Office and ICE at odds

    NICK RAHAIM
    THE PRESS DEMOCRAT | August 30, 2017, 9:11PM
    | Updated 6 hours ago.

    The killing of a Santa Rosa woman by an undocumented immigrant two weeks ago has exposed a constitutional feud between federal and county governments over the detention of immigrants at the Sonoma County Jail.

    The dispute stems from the release of a Guatemalan national, Nery Israel Estrada- Margos, 38, who bailed out of the jail Aug. 3, a day after being booked on domestic battery charges.

    While in custody, Estrada- Margos’ fingerprints matched those in an Immigration and Customs Enforcement database.

    The federal agency sent an immigration detainer request to jail officials, asking them to hold Estrada-Margos for up to 48 hours so it could take him into federal custody because he had returned to the country illegally after a 2008 deportation to Guatemala.

    But the Sonoma County Sheriff’s Office doesn’t recognize such detainer requests. Estrada-Margos went free on $30,000 bail. Two weeks later, on Aug. 18, he turned himself into Santa Rosa police saying he killed his girlfriend, Veronica Cabrera Ramirez, 42, after a domestic dispute.

    The Sonoma County Sheriff’s Office maintains that holding an inmate for any length of time past their scheduled release because of immigration status is unconstitutional and violates an inmate’s Fourth Amendment rights.

    “The county can be held liable for false imprisonment should an inmate be held past their release time,” said Sgt. Spencer Crum, spokesman for the Sheriff’s Office, citing a 2014 U.S. District Court case in Oregon.

    Instead, the Sheriff’s Office treats ICE detainer requests as requests for notification of release, a Department of Homeland Security form. Before Estrada-Margos was released from custody, jail officials did notify ICE of his impending departure.

    But James Schwab, a spokesman for ICE’s San Francisco office, contends the jail only gave a 16-minute notice before Estrada-Margos walked out the front door of the county jail.

    “Sixteen minutes is typical. And look what happens when we don’t communicate with each other,” Schwab said, referencing the death of Cabrera Ramirez. “The majority of time we get a very short notice from the Sheriff’s Office.”

    If the Sheriff’s Office gave ICE at least 48 hours notice of a flagged inmate’s release, agents would pick up every person for deportation proceedings, Schwab said.

    As of Aug. 15, roughly 25 percent of the 176 inmates flagged by ICE this year have been picked up by federal immigration agents at the county jail, according to data recently released by the Sheriff’s Office.

    Sheriff Rob Giordano initiated a new policy Aug. 18 to limit cooperation with ICE at the county jail, the same day Cabrera Ramirez died in her home from undisclosed injuries, allegedly at the hands of Estrada-Margos.

    While the Sheriff’s Office once responded to every ICE notification request, jail officials now only respond if a person has been convicted of a felony listed by the California Trust Act, a 2014 state law that limits immigration holds. The jail also responds when a flagged inmate has been convicted of a Trust Act misdemeanor and roughly a dozen other crimes within the last five years. The additional misdemeanors, chosen by Giordano, include DUIs, battery and sex crimes relating to minors.

    Inmates are now also given the right through an attorney to contest the Sheriff’s Office decision to notify ICE of their release.

    When the Sheriff’s Office does respond to an ICE request, it typically gives 24- to 48-hours notice before the inmate is released, Crum said.

    But there are times when giving ICE a 48-hour notice would violate a person’s Fourth Amendment rights. For example, when a judge dismisses an inmate’s case or a person posts bail, their release happens within hours, Crum said.

    In the case of Estrada-Margos’ release, Crum disputes there was only a 16-minute notice given to ICE. Crum said it was a 45-minute notice.

    ICE considers its detainer requests to be administrative warrants that allow for the detention of immigrants — whether in the country illegally or legally — for up to 48 hours, regardless of court cases that have ruled otherwise. Sonoma County disagrees, and will only hold an inmate when presented with a criminal warrant signed by a federal judge or magistrate that sustains probable cause.

    California jails’ policies regulating cooperation with ICE differ from county to county. At the Marin County Jail, officials will not hold inmates on ICE detainer requests on constitutional grounds, but do respond to every request for notification of release, said Capt. Rick Navarro with the Marin County Sheriff’s Office.

    In Napa County, jail officials also consider detainer requests to be unconstitutional, said Leonard Vare, director of the Napa County Department of Corrections. The Napa County Jail has a more restrictive policy than Sonoma County in responding to ICE notification requests of release.

    Napa County Jail officials will only respond to ICE if an inmate has been convicted of a misdemeanor or felony outlined by the Trust Act while also fulfilling the legal notification requirement of the Truth Act, a 2017 state law that requires jail officials to notify inmates and their attorney that ICE has flagged them, Vare said.

    “There’s no way that people who run jails can predict future behavior of anyone released from jail,” Vare said about the Estrada-Margos case. “You can only look at past behavior to see if this person presents a danger to the public.”

    Estrada-Margos had no prior convictions when he was released from Sonoma County Jail Aug. 3. Had the new policy been in place, jail officials would not have notified ICE at all. Prior deportations do not count as prior convictions.

    Estrada-Margos’ suspected killing of Cabrera Ramirez has left her two teen daughters in Santa Rosa without their mother and two teen sons in Guatemala without their father.

    Estrada-Margos’ younger brother, Guillo Estrada, told The Press Democrat in a phone interview from his family’s hometown of Quetzaltenango, Guatemala, that his family was shocked — especially Estrada-Margos’ wife — to hear he was suspected of killing his girlfriend.

    Guillo Estrada said his brother was living in Oklahoma when he was first deported in 2008 but returned to the U.S. for work in 2012 or 2013. He kept in touch with his brother over the years and has never been known to be violent or aggressive.

    “He was the family joker,” Guillo Estrada said in Spanish, but noted his brother was the first to find their father after he hanged himself 21 years ago.

    “We don’t really know what happened,” Guillo Estrada said of his brother’s alleged violence in Santa Rosa. “(But) we ask the family for forgiveness.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by nntrixie View Post
    I'm still not understanding this, and I'm not understanding why everyone (law enforcement wise) is seemingly accepting it.

    This man committed a crime. What's to debate? I don't care if he is here from Mars, do something to protect the people from that criminal.

    Why is he, as a criminal, simply not held and tried. Why does his being an illegal give him a pass that no one else has?

    Everyone is flimflamming us with this idea they can't hold or charge an illegal.
    They are protecting them for the cartels, nntrixie. Until people understand who is behind this, it will never make sense to you. The cities and police organizations are on the take with the cartels to ensure their people get out and avoid ICE and deportation.
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    Lets see Santa Rosa, next to Napa in Sonoma County where Pelosi has her ranch and vineyards that need all those hispanic workers. The home of the very rich and liberal who keep voting for Pelosi. What's to understand.
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