Thread: Can schools defy immigration laws?

It needs to go back to the Courts about school, just like the Anchor Baby scam.

U.S. Supreme Court

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The Plyler vs Doe decision applied to a local school district in Texas trying to charge illegal aliens tuition to attend. The federal government has full power and authority to cut federal funds from public education being spent on illegal aliens. Local school districts didn't have the right to charge tuition while accepting federal funds for that student. The Plyler vs Doe decision has no bearing at all of any kind on the US government enforcing US immigration law. None whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Judy

The Plyler vs Doe decision applied to a local school district in Texas trying to charge illegal aliens tuition to attend. The federal government has full power and authority to cut federal funds from public education being spent on illegal aliens. Local school districts didn't have the right to charge tuition while accepting federal funds for that student. The Plyler vs Doe decision has no bearing at all of any kind on the US government enforcing US immigration law. None whatsoever.

Actually you're wrong. The Plyler v. Doe final ruling specifically allows for illegal immigrant children to lawfully attend primary and secondary schools. The U.S. Supreme Court ruling in the case stops federal enforcement agents from going into classrooms and apprehending children. Regardless of the original intend of the lawsuit, the end result (ruling) was that all illegal immigrant children, nation-wide, have a right to a primary and secondary education. This is settled law and unfortunately the federal government can do nothing to stop it. So yes, Plyler v. Doe does have something to with why the federal government can't enter a classroom and apprehend a child for being illegal. Of course the court ruling does not apply to post-secondary schooling.

In June 1982, the Supreme Court issued Plyler v. Doe, a landmark decision holding that states cannot constitutionally deny students a free public education on account of their immigration status.

Public Education for Immigrant Students: Understanding Plyler v. Doe ...

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/.../plyler-v-doe-public-education-immigra...

• In 1994, California voters enacted Proposition 187, which prohibited public elementary and secondary schools from admitting any student who was not lawfully present in the United States, and which required schools to notify federal immigration authorities within 45 days of any student reasonably believed to be in violation of federal immigration laws.The measure was subsequently struck down in federal court for violating Plyler.

https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...grant-students

Originally Posted by MW

Actually you're wrong. The Plyler v. Doe final ruling specifically allows for illegal immigrant children to lawfully attend primary and secondary schools. The U.S. Supreme Court ruling in the case stops federal enforcement agents from going into classrooms and apprehending children. Regardless of the original intend of the lawsuit, the end result (ruling) was that all illegal immigrant children, nation-wide, have a right to a primary and secondary education. This is settled law and unfortunately the federal government can do nothing to stop it. So yes, Plyler v. Doe does have something to with why the federal government can't enter a classroom and apprehend a child for being illegal. Of course the court ruling does not apply to post-secondary schooling.

No it doesn't.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

• In 1994, California voters enacted Proposition 187, which prohibited public elementary and secondary schools from admitting any student who was not lawfully present in the United States, and which required schools to notify federal immigration authorities within 45 days of any student reasonably believed to be in violation of federal immigration laws.The measure was subsequently struck down in federal court for violating Plyler.

https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...grant-students

That pretty much spells it out.

You all are missing the whole case. Plyler vs Doe was decided against a state school district wanting to charge illegal aliens children "tuition" to attend classes. The case was decided on the issue of CHARGING THEM to attend. If you let them attend, then you have to allow them to attend "free" under Plyler vs Doe. Illegal aliens are not under our jurisdiction, they are illegal aliens, we are not required or even allowed to MANDATE their attendance like citizens and legal permanent residents.

Nothing to do with Plyler vs Doe affects the US government enforcing US immigration law. There is no law that prevents arresting children at school. There is a guideline for "sensitive locations" and that is the ONLY reason our stupid government hasn't already loaded up everyone of these illegal aliens and whisked them away to a detention center, then rounded up their parents and whisked them out of this country as a single unit, families intact, no child left behind. There is no law, just a stupid guideline written by idiots who are pro-immigration.

You are confusing the obligation of a state school district under Plyler vs Doe with the Constitutional powers of the United States government which no US Supreme Court Ruling has or ever will undermine with regards to immigration, legal or illegal. Under the US Constitution in words as plain as it can be stated, the US government has the authority after the year 1808 to prohibit migration and the importation of labor into the United States for any reason or no reason at all.

Furthermore, the US government has sole authority of appropriations and expenditures and it can cut off all federal funds or any portion thereof for anything it wants at any time it wants, some without Congressional approval, some with Congressional approval. Because of the Constitutional power vested in the US government to prohibit immigration and importation of labor into the United States, the US government, Executive Branch, has all the power and authority of the US Constitution to jerk every single dime, every single penny, from every state and every school district abusing federal taxpayer dollars to educate illegal aliens in the United States without anything from Congress.

You admit them to school, then you the states and local districts will have to pay for it. Otherwise, you better get on the phone to immigration officials, report these illegal aliens to federal authorities and demand they come get them to remove them from your communities and our country.

Stop miisapplying US Supreme Court Rulings to things they do not apply to. The US Supreme Court has not because it can not tell the Executive Branch to violate its own Constitutional power to prohibit immigration and it has not and will not ever tell the federal government it has to abscond taxpayer money to educate those who are prohibited under US immigration law from being present in the country to begin with.

Originally Posted by MW

That pretty much spells it out.

No, it doesn't. That was not a US Supreme Court Ruling. That was a Federal Court decision and was appealed to the 9th Circuit Federal Court of Appeals which the new Governor, Gray Davis, withdrew in mediation prior to the 9th Circuit Ruling. Gray Davis was of course recalled by the voters of California which resulted in the election of Arnold Schwarzenegger.

That standing court ruling doesn't have squat to do with what the federal government does, that was still a state standing issue.