Thread: Canadian town wants something done to stop illegal immigrati

Originally Posted by Pistov

I just hope Canada can change their anchor baby laws fast enough to avoid getting loads of anchor babies...

Actually, they do not have that problems.. the US is the ONLY country on Earth that allows the abuse of birth-right citizenship!

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Canada has birthright citizenship, but they don't allow it to prevent deportation of illegals.

If you're illegal and your kid is an anchor baby they just deport the whole family. (Technically the kid isn't deported, the parent is just taking their kid with them).

PM Harper is part of the Three Amigos: Bush, Calderon and Harper. He is going to allow all these illegals to come into Canada. For some reason, the people of Mexico have become the chosen people, and can come and mooch off the US and Canada now. Unbelievable.

If Canada wants them then we can provide 20 million for them! They could double their population instantly! And of course Spanish would become the national language!

USA SHOULD TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE A LOAD OF BUSES TO TRANSPORT THEM UP THERE. GIVE EM EACH A SANDWICH AND SAY ADIOS. WE DONT WANT OUR CANADIAN NEIGHBORS TO MISS OUT ON THE "FULL EXPERIENCE"

Originally Posted by NoIllegalsAllowed

Originally Posted by Pistov

[quote:3knztymy]I just hope Canada can change their anchor baby laws fast enough to avoid getting loads of anchor babies...

Actually, they do not have that problems.. the US is the ONLY country on Earth that allows the abuse of birth-right citizenship!

Canada has birthright citizenship, but they don't allow it to prevent deportation of illegals.

If you're illegal and your kid is an anchor baby they just deport the whole family. (Technically the kid isn't deported, the parent is just taking their kid with them).[/quote:3knztymy]


I stand corrected, I just assumed since they were deported they were not automatic citizens..[/quote]

Originally Posted by 31scout

If Canada wants them then we can provide 20 million for them! They could double their population instantly! And of course Spanish would become the national language!

Just let them try this in Quebec

Quebec hates illegals, especially ones who refuse to speak their language...

Refugees pose 'potential crisis'
Mayor Francis asks the feds for help to deal with influx of Mexicans
Doug Schmidt and Dave Battagello, The Windsor Star
Published: Wednesday, September 19, 2007
With city shelters filled and a surge of further refugee claimants expected to flood into Windsor, Mayor Eddie Francis is pleading for financial help from Ottawa.

"When there is a possibility of adding thousands to the local social assistance system as a result of refugee claimants crossing the border into Windsor, we will become overwhelmed and our current resources will not suffice," Francis wrote in a letter sent Wednesday to Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Over the past three weeks, 45 families and 31 individuals -- approximately 200 people -- entered Canada at the Detroit River crossings and applied in Windsor for shelter and social assistance after filing refugee claims with the Canada Border Services Agency. Municipal agencies dealing with the sudden influx of mainly Mexican refugee applicants are renting out hotel rooms and bracing for predicted thousands more to come.

Concepcion Montiel and her daughter Perla, 2, arrived in Windsor Monday by bus with two other families. Montie said a lack of jobs in Florida, the fear of deportation and the perceived opportunities promised in Canada persuaded her to move her family north.
Scott Webster, The Windsor Star

"We don't have the means, ability or capacity to deal with this additional cost. We are not able to deal with this potential crisis locally," Francis wrote Harper.

"I don't believe that Windsor's residents and taxpayers should have to foot the bill for U.S. immigration policy," Francis told The Star. He was referring to the suspected source of the problem -- a recently begun crackdown on illegal immigrants in economically struggling regions of the U.S. South.

With the bulk of the latest arrivals being long-time Mexican illegals dislodged from their homes and workplaces in southwestern Florida, fingers are being pointed at unscrupulous outfits charging money and then directing desperate individuals and their families toward the Windsor border crossing.

"We are aware of these operations -- they have been advertising incorrect and false information," said Marina Wilson, a spokeswoman for Citizenship and Immigration Canada. Wilson said Canadian immigration authorities have started contacting the Mexican and Haitian communities in Florida, as well as local media there, to get the word out that nothing has changed in Canadian refugee policy.

"The fact someone wants to come here for better economic opportunity or a better quality of life ... that's no basis for a successful refugee claim," said Immigration Refugee Board (IRB) spokesman Charles Hawkins.

But a group operating out of Naples, Fla., vowed to continue sending the so-called economic refugees to Windsor.

"They ask, 'Is Canada an option?' and I say, 'Yes, it is an option,'" Jacques Sinjuste of the Jerusalem Haitian Community Center said in a phone interview Wednesday. For a US$300 "donation" (most of those interviewed in Windsor claim they paid US$400), JHCC staff download forms off the Internet, help applicants fill them out and give directions on how to get to the Canadian border.

Sinjuste said he's simply providing a "referral" service.

"Most of the time when the people come, they say they've heard something (about Canada). I say that I've heard the same thing," he said.

Jacquie Rumiel, director of programs for new Canadians at the YMCA, where refugee claimants are referred by Windsor's border guards, said the new people she's seeing are "mostly" Mexicans coming from Florida.

To be successful, refugee claimants must prove they are fleeing persecution at home, something most of the Mexicans arriving in Windsor would be hard-pressed to do. The IRB's Hawkins said there was only a 13 per cent acceptance rate of refugee claims filed by Mexican nationals during the first six months of the year, compared to an overall rate of 47 per cent.

But the average processing time for a refugee claim in Canada is currently 14.2 months, said Hawkins, a period during which the applicant is eligible for financial and other support. A failed claimant then also has the right to seek leave to appeal his or her rejection to federal court.

Despite the high number of failed applications cited by the IRB, Sinjuste said he gets calls to his Naples centre from "a lot of people" who've arrived in Windsor.

"They say everything is okay -- they are doing good, going to schools, going to work," he said.

Sinjuste said he was visited last week by an official from the Canadian consulate general in Miami but couldn't remember if he was told to stop helping economic refugees go to Canada.

"I don't think they tell me that," he said. Federal bureaucrats confirmed the meeting but said they couldn't divulge details.

Others are warning about the types of activities Sinjuste is engaged in.

"The way he's misleading the most vulnerable is infuriating," said Pegg Roberts, executive director of Detroit's Freedom House, which runs a shelter and assists asylum-seekers with their refugee claims. Sinjuste said he uses the Freedom House website to download refugee claim forms and advises the people he assists to seek help there.

"I do not help economic refugees," said Roberts, adding her non-profit organization assists the fleeing victims of torture and war crimes and has no affiliation with the JHCC.

"This is a problem the U.S. has allowed to create. It's really unfair for Canada to have to face this," said MP Joe Comartin (NDP -- Windsor-Tecumseh), his Party's public safety and national security critic.

"This is very much being driven by (the U.S. Department of) Homeland Security," he said, predicting that, "with few exceptions," most of these "economic claimants" will eventually be sent back.

dschmidt@thestar.canwest.com or 519-255-5586

http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/story ... 18&k=57287

"I don't believe that Windsor's residents and taxpayers should have to foot the bill for U.S. immigration policy," Francis told The Star. He was referring to the suspected source of the problem -- a recently begun crackdown on illegal immigrants in economically struggling regions of the U.S. South.

THIS IS FUNNY. INSTEAD OF GOING BACK TO MEXICO, THEY GO TO CANADA. CANADA, DUE TO THEIR FAULTY IMMIGRATION POLICY, LETS THEM IN UNIMPEDED. AND CANADA SAYS THIS IS DUE TO USA IMMIGRATION POLICY. IF CANADA ENDS UP WITH A FLOOD OF ILLEGALS FROM USA, IT IS BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN IMMIGRATION POLICY. THEY SHOULD TURN THEM AWAY. HOW IS IT THE FAULT OF USA?

Originally Posted by redpony353

"I don't believe that Windsor's residents and taxpayers should have to foot the bill for U.S. immigration policy," Francis told The Star. He was referring to the suspected source of the problem -- a recently begun crackdown on illegal immigrants in economically struggling regions of the U.S. South.

THIS IS FUNNY. INSTEAD OF GOING BACK TO MEXICO, THEY GO TO CANADA. CANADA, DUE TO THEIR FAULTY IMMIGRATION POLICY, LETS THEM IN UNIMPEDED. AND CANADA SAYS THIS IS DUE TO USA IMMIGRATION POLICY. IF CANADA ENDS UP WITH A FLOOD OF ILLEGALS FROM USA, IT IS BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN IMMIGRATION POLICY. THEY SHOULD TURN THEM AWAY. HOW IS IT THE FAULT OF USA?

Again just let them try this in Quebec. I'll be laughing if they try to protest in Quebec...The Quebecois would riot at them for threatening the French culture of Quebec. And the police would be rioting with them.

IF CANADA ENDS UP WITH A FLOOD OF ILLEGALS FROM USA, IT IS BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN IMMIGRATION POLICY. THEY SHOULD TURN THEM AWAY. HOW IS IT THE FAULT OF USA?

Yep, its suceeding--divide and conquer. Bikering amongst ourselves when we should be forming alliances.