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    CARAVAN DEMANDS REPARATIONS: Give us $50,000 each to go home...

    Migrant groups march to U.S. consulate in Tijuana demanding reparations



    A group of about 50 migrants walked from the Mexico Immigration office to the U.S. Consulate office to deliver a letter asking U.S. officials to speed up the asylum process. (Nelvin C. Cepeda / San Diego Union-Tribune)

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    Two groups of Central American migrants made separate marches on the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana Tuesday, demanding that they be processed through the asylum system more quickly and in greater numbers, that deportations be halted and that President Trump either let them into the country or pay them $50,000 each to go home.
    On the one-month anniversary of their arrival into Tijuana, caravan members are pressing the United States to take action but they are dwindling in numbers since more than 6,000 first arrived to the city’s shelters.



    Approximately 700 have voluntarily returned to their country of origin, 300 have been deported, and 2,500 have applied for humanitarian visas in Mexico, according to Xochtil Castillo, a caravan member who met with Mexican officials Tuesday. The group of unaccounted migrants, about 3,500 are presumed to have either crossed illegally into the United States, moved to other Mexican border cities, or simply fallen through the cracks.
    Mexico’s National Institution of Migration did not respond to a request to verify those numbers Tuesday.
    The first group demanding action, numbering about 100, arrived at the U.S. Consulate at about 11 am Tuesday. The migrants said they were asking that the Trump Administration pay them $50,000 each or allow them into the U.S.
    When asked how the group came up with the $50,000 figure, organizer Alfonso Guerrero Ulloa of Honduras, said they chose that number as a group.
    “It may seem like a lot of money to you,” Ulloa said. “But it is a small sum compared to everything the United States has stolen from Honduras.”
    The group’s letter criticized American intervention in Central America. They gave the U.S. Consulate 72 hours to respond. They said they had not decided what to do if their demands were not met.
    “I don’t know, we will decide as a group,” Ulloa said.
    The second letter, delivered around 1:20 p.m., came from a separate group of caravan members asking for the U.S. to speed up the asylum process. Specifically, the group asked U.S. immigration officials to admit up to 300 asylum seekers at the San Ysidro Port of Entry each day.
    Currently, officials admit between 40 and 100 asylum seekers. The group of migrants say the slow pace violates American and international laws that call for an immediate process, and places vulnerable migrants at risk.
    “In the meantime, families, women and children who have fled our countries continue to suffer and the civil society of Tijuana continue to be forces to confront this humanitarian crisis, a refugee crisis caused in great part by decades of U.S. intervention in Central America,” the letter states.
    The second letter came from a group of about 50 migrants, including about 15 who participated in a hunger strike that also demanded a swifter U.S. asylum process. The non-profit Pueblo Sin Fronteras helped organize the delivery of the second letter.
    Representatives from the second group met with Mexican immigration officials in Tijuana. The migrants asked Mexican officials to stop working with the municipal police in deporting caravan members.
    Migrants thought the number of deportations and voluntary repatriations is a reflection of their precarious situation in Tijuana.
    “A lot of people are leaving because there is no solution here,” said Douglas Matute, 38, of Tijuana. “We thought they would let us in. But Trump sent the military instead of social workers.”
    The two groups were unaware of each other’s demands. But both said their messages were well received by the staff of the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana.
    “They gave us a warm welcome,” Castillo said. “They were very kind. She said she’d send the letter to the recipients.”
    The letter asking for a speedier U.S. asylum process was addressed to President Trump, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, San Ysidro Port Director Sidney Aki, and Commissioner of the Office of Customs and Border Protection Kevin McAleenan.
    Castillo said she was not given a timeframe of when the U.S. will respond.
    Trump has threatened to cut off financial aid to Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador if those countries did not stop the caravan before it reached the U.S. border. He has reiterated, as late as Tuesday, the need for a border wall, threatening to shut down the U.S. government if funding was not approved.
    Getting into the U.S. Consulate was somewhat of a victory, the caravan groups said.
    “They received us at least,” Ulloa said. “It was nice to be treated with respect.”
    The letter said the group is made up of, “families, women and children, the majority of which are young men who are fleeing from poverty, insecurity and political repression under the dictatorship of Juan Orlando Hernandez.”
    Orlando Hernandez is the president of Honduras. Their letter also asked the U.S. to remove Orlando Hernandez from office.
    Getting $55,000 for each of the caravan members, Ulloa said, might allow them to go back home and start a small business.
    Ulloa claims he was falsely accused of attacking a Chinese restaurant in Honduras in 1987. He has been living outside Honduras for 30 years, according to an online petition he wrote asking the U.S. government to exonerate him.

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    These people are dimwits!

    Give them nothing but a bus ticket home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southBronx View Post
    YOU ALL CAN GO TO HELL

    x1000 thumbs up!!!

    Send them to blazes with a cup of hot coffee!
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    Migrant group demands Trump either let them in or pay them each $50G to turn around: report



    By Louis Casiano | Fox News

    Migrant group delivers ultimatum to the Trump administration

    Two groups of Central American migrants marched to the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana on Tuesday with a list of demands, with one group delivering an ultimatum to the Trump administration: either let them in the U.S. or pay them $50,000 each to go home, a report said.
    Among other demands were that deportations be halted and that asylum seekers be processed faster and in greater numbers, the San Diego Union-Tribune reported.
    The first group of caravan members, which included about 100 migrants, arrived at the consulate around 11 a.m. Alfonso Guerreo Ulloa, an organizer from Honduras, said the $50,000 figure was chosen as a group.
    “It may seem like a lot of money to you,” Ulloa told the paper. “But it is a small sum compared to everything the United States has stolen from Honduras.”

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    He said the money would allow the migrants to return home and start a small business.
    A letter from the group criticized U.S. intervention in Central America and asked the U.S. to remove Honduran President Orlando Hernandez from office. They gave the consulate 72 hours to respond.
    A letter from the second group of about 50 migrants arrived at the consulate around 1:20 p.m. asking the U.S. to speed up the asylum process and to admit up to 300 asylum seekers each day at the San Ysidro Port of Entry in San Diego. Currently, around 40 to 100 are admitted.
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    “In the meantime, families, women and children who have fled our countries continue to suffer and the civil society of Tijuana continue to be forced to confront this humanitarian crisis, a refugee crisis caused in great part by decades of U.S. intervention in Central America,” the letter states.

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    Of the roughly 6,000 migrants who’ve traveled from Central America to Tijuana, around 700 have returned home, 300 have been deported and 2,500 have applied for humanitarian visas in Mexico, according to Xochtil Castillo, a caravan member who met with Mexican officials Tuesday.
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    Others have either crossed into the U.S. illegally, moved to other parts of Mexico or have fallen through the cracks, the Union-Tribune reported.
    “A lot of people are leaving because there is no solution here,” said Douglas Matute, 38, of Tijuana. “We thought they would let us in. But Trump sent the military instead of social workers.”

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    Some Caravan Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave

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    Members of the “Honduran Migrant Caravan” marched to the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana on Tuesday and delivered a letter directed to President Donald Trump, demanding entry into the United States or $50,000 each to return home. They also requested the removal of military installations in Honduras.

    Approximately 200 members of the caravan departed El Barretal camp in southeast Tijuana to the offices of the National Institute of Migration (INM) and later the U.S. Consulate General to hand deliver a letter outlining demands. The demonstration aimed to accelerate the process for migrants to request asylum and work in the United States. Security for the effort was provided by federal, state and municipal police, according to local reporting.
    At the consulate, the migrant caravan was stopped by a team of riot police and were told to select a group of spokesperson to deliver the letter. The marchers were later directed toward two buses to transport them back to El Barretal.

    Local news outlets later received and printed a copy of the letter.
    In sum, the letter requested passage into the U.S., noting they were fleeing poverty, insecurity, and oppression caused by the administration of Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez. They also decried economic, political, and military interference from the U.S. throughout Central America over the past century.
    The letter states that if the U.S. wants migration to stop, it should remove its security and economic interests from the region, which includes 13 military installations. If entry is not granted, the migrants seek $50,000 USD each to return home. They also asked for the removal of the sitting Honduran president.
    The letter is signed, “The Honduran Caravan Migrants,” and set a 72-hour time limit for a response.
    Several demonstrators carried signs in English. Some read:
    You got it wrong Trump, we asked for jobs you responded with weapons. If asking for work is troublesome than I’m totally confused.
    Don’t close your door employers. One day you will need me then I will remember the rejection. Entrepreneurs don’t turn your back on us. You know we both are the backbone of society.
    One march organizer, Alfonso Guerreo Ulloa, offered comment on the $50,000 figure.
    “It may seem like a lot of money to you … But it is a small sum compared to everything the United States has stolen from Honduras,” according to a Fox News report.
    The Fox report also notes that a second letter was marched to the consulate, specifically asking for an uptick in daily asylum claims processed from 50 to 300.

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    Go ask YOUR President for work...we owe you nothing.

    Go be the "backbone" of your country!

    Close that Consulate down and deport these idiots!
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    ALL AGENCIES: $127m

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    Additionally, 18.8% of Honduras" GDP is from remittances from the United states. Much of that money is earned illegally using fake documents or under the table in cash without FICA that pays for the Medicaid and social services that the illegals use freely.

    I guess this particular group hasn't been getting their share and want a lump sum payment. If they are willing to take the money and go home, they are not truly asylum seekers, just scam artists. IMO
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    Migrant caravan descends into a shakedown

    What's left of the caravan has descended into a Jesse Jackson-style shakedown.


    December 13, 2018
    By Monica Showalter

    Surely, the caravan migrants who were promised easy entry and free stuff in America are frustrated.
    They are, after all, being asked to take a number and get to the back of the line on their asylum claims. The sweetener is that they can live and work in the U.S. for about two or three years, free and clear, earning money, before a court rejects their cost-free asylum claims and sends them back home.
    Many migrants knew this, based on interviews with caravan migrants in the past two months, and that was their game all along.
    But then there are the others, the ones who really did expect to get something for free from Uncle Sam. Here's the latest from that element of the group, as reported by the San Diego Union-Tribune:
    Two groups of Central American migrants made separate marches on the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana Tuesday, demanding that they be processed through the asylum system more quickly and in greater numbers, that deportations be halted and that President Trump either let them into the country or pay them $50,000 each to go home.
    On the one-month anniversary of their arrival into Tijuana, caravan members are pressing the United States to take action but they are dwindling in numbers since more than 6,000 first arrived to the city's shelters.
    The "reparations" are for the U.S.'s role in supposedly messing up their country, as if Hondurans were incapable of doing such a thing on their own. Not a lot of confidence in their countrymen's capacities, it seems. And not a lot of criticism for the far-left organizers who led them down this garden path, only to leave them with nothing. In fact, based on the kind of demands being posted on Pueblo Sin Fronteras' website, the demands have the look of having been crafted from those quarters. Apparently, the caravan has descended into irrelevance. As they pack up; seek jobs in Mexico; or slip through to the U.S., possibly with the aid of cartel human smugglers, migrants have told the press that the Pueblo organizers are nowhere to be found.
    Well, now they are, and they've marshaled their forces to call on Uncle Sam to hand them money. Lots of money, $50,000 a head. Not out of mercy, but out of a debt owed. Or a payment to go away. And to raise the political project to the front and center once again, as Rick Moran observes in this PJ Media piece here. Any questions as to why the Tijuana residents were so turned off by the migrants' sense of entitlement that they organized protests of their own?
    What leaps out here is the outrageousness of the demands, which is a typical tactic of the most extremist elements of the left. Terrorists are famous for making crazy demands, but so are other kinds of radicals and mau-mauers. It's a signature tactic of the left: the louder and crazier the demand, the more likely it is to turn up in the news. Mau-mauing, Jesse Jackson – it's all the same sort of warfare. The caravan organizers are banking on Americans being so revolted by illegal immigration that the U.S. will just shell out for them and pay them big bucks to go away. They see how payouts work in America, and they'd like those even better than the privilege of living in America.
    One can only hope that the sorry truth about this group and its political project are duly noted.


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