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    Migrants demand entry or $50,000 each during march to US Consulate in Tijuana

    Migrants demand entry or $50,000 during march to US Consulate in Tijuana

    Posted: 12:25 PM, Dec 11, 2018
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    (KGTV) - More members of the migrant caravan walked through the streets of Tijuana Tuesday morning, this time heading to the U.S. Consulate instead of the border.

    10News learned the group reached their destination at around 11 a.m. after a nearly two-hour trek. The migrants, who had police escorts, made it clear their intentions were peaceful.


    The group members held various banners as they marched, including one that read: “You got it wrong, Trump. We asked for jobs and you responded with weapons. That is not polite. If asking for work is troublesome, then I am totally confused. La Caravana.”


    A source told 10News the migrants dropped off a petition asking the consulate to allow everyone in the caravan entry into the U.S. The migrants requested a response within 72 hours.


    Additionally, the migrants said they want the U.S. government to provide $50,000 for their trips back to their respective home countries if they aren't allowed asylum in the United States.


    After delivering the petition, the migrants returned to their shelters.


    It is unknown what the migrants plan to do if they do not receive a response within 72 hours.


    RELATED: Activists arrested, Border Patrol agent injured during protest


    The migrants’ journey to the U.S. Consulate came as President Trump reinforced his desire to build a wall at the U.S.-Mexico border.


    The president, during a Tuesday meeting in the Oval Office with Democratic leaders Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, said he was not afraid to shut down the federal government if $5 billion in funding for border security was not approved.


    “I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck. Because the people of this country don't want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country. I will take the mantle, I will be the one to shut it down. And I'm going to shut it down for border security,” Trump said.


    During the meeting, Trump reiterated the importance of securing the border, even suggesting an idea to have the military build the wall.


    An agreement must be made before the Dec. 21 deadline to avoid a government shutdown.

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    Migrant groups march to U.S. consulate in Tijuana demanding reparations


    Gustavo Solis Contact Reporter


    Two groups of Central American migrants made separate marches on the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana Tuesday, demanding that they be processed through the asylum system more quickly and in greater numbers, that deportations be halted and that President Trump either let them into the country or pay them $50,000 each to go home.

    On the one-month anniversary of their arrival into Tijuana, caravan members are pressing the United States to take action but they are dwindling in numbers since more than 6,000 first arrived to the city’s shelters.


    Approximately 700 have voluntarily returned to their country of origin, 300 have been deported, and 2,500 have applied for humanitarian visas in Mexico, according to Xochtil Castillo, a caravan member who met with Mexican officials Tuesday. The group of unaccounted migrants, about 3,500 are presumed to have either crossed illegally into the United States, moved to other Mexican border cities, or simply fallen through the cracks.


    Mexico’s National Institution of Migration did not respond to a request to verify those numbers Tuesday.


    The first group demanding action, numbering about 100, arrived at the U.S. Consulate at about 11 am Tuesday. The migrants said they were asking that the Trump Administration pay them $50,000 each or allow them into the U.S.


    When asked how the group came up with the $50,000 figure, organizer Alfonso Guerrero Ulloa of Honduras, said they chose that number as a group.


    “It may seem like a lot of money to you,” Ulloa said. “But it is a small sum compared to everything the United States has stolen from Honduras.”


    The group’s letter criticized American intervention in Central America. They gave the U.S. Consulate 72 hours to respond. They said they had not decided what to do if their demands were not met.


    “I don’t know, we will decide as a group,” Ulloa said.


    The second letter, delivered around 1:20 p.m., came from a separate group of caravan members asking for the U.S. to speed up the asylum process. Specifically, the group asked U.S. immigration officials to admit up to 300 asylum seekers at the San Ysidro Port of Entry each day.


    Currently, officials admit between 40 and 100 asylum seekers. The group of migrants say the slow pace violates American and international laws that call for an immediate process, and places vulnerable migrants at risk.


    “In the meantime, families, women and children who have fled our countries continue to suffer and the civil society of Tijuana continue to be forces to confront this humanitarian crisis, a refugee crisis caused in great part by decades of U.S. intervention in Central America,” the letter states.


    The second letter came from a group of about 50 migrants, including about 15 who participated in a hunger strike that also demanded a swifter U.S. asylum process. The non-profit Pueblo Sin Fronteras helped organize the delivery of the second letter.


    Representatives from the second group met with Mexican immigration officials in Tijuana. The migrants asked Mexican officials to stop working with the municipal police in deporting caravan members.


    Migrants thought the number of deportations and voluntary repatriations is a reflection of their precarious situation in Tijuana.


    “A lot of people are leaving because there is no solution here,” said Douglas Matute, 38, of Tijuana. “We thought they would let us in. But Trump sent the military instead of social workers.”


    The two groups were unaware of each other’s demands.

    But both said their messages were well received by the staff of the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana.


    “They gave us a warm welcome,” Castillo said. “They were very kind. She said she’d send the letter to the recipients.”


    The letter asking for a speedier U.S. asylum process was addressed to President Trump, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, San Ysidro Port Director Sidney Aki, and Commissioner of the Office of Customs and Border Protection Kevin McAleenan.


    Castillo said she was not given a timeframe of when the U.S. will respond.


    Trump has threatened to cut off financial aid to Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador if those countries did not stop the caravan before it reached the U.S. border. He has reiterated, as late as Tuesday, the need for a border wall, threatening to shut down the U.S. government if funding was not approved.


    Getting into the U.S. Consulate was somewhat of a victory, the caravan groups said.


    “They received us at least,” Ulloa said. “It was nice to be treated with respect.”


    The letter said the group is made up of, “families, women and children, the majority of which are young men who are fleeing from poverty, insecurity and political repression under the dictatorship of Juan Orlando Hernandez.”


    Orlando Hernandez is the president of Honduras. Their letter also asked the U.S. to remove Orlando Hernandez from office.


    Getting $55,000 for each of the caravan members, Ulloa said, might allow them to go back home and start a small business.


    Ulloa claims he was falsely accused of attacking a Chinese restaurant in Honduras in 1987. He has been living outside Honduras for 30 years, according to an online petition he wrote asking the U.S. government to exonerate him.

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    “A lot of people are leaving because there is no solution here,” said Douglas Matute, 38, of Tijuana. “We thought they would let us in. But Trump sent the military instead of social workers.”
    I guess they expected a brass band also.

    They should demand "reparations" from their corrupt governments. Amazing that they are too gutless to stand up to their own failed governments but emboldened to make demands of this country. I haven't the term reparations since Obama was in office...
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    When asked how the group came up with the $50,000 figure, organizer Alfonso Guerrero Ulloa of Honduras, said they chose that number as a group.

    “It may seem like a lot of money to you,” Ulloa said. “But it is a small sum compared to everything the United States has stolen from Honduras.”
    What has our country stolen from Honduras?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
    What has our country stolen from Honduras?
    I guess they think we kidnapped their citizens since so many of them are living here illegally.
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    These are very stupid and crazy people. Good luck Mexico. If you think you've had or have problems of your own, just wait until you fold these con artists into your flock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
    What has our country stolen from Honduras?
    Last I heard, they were receiving millions in AID from the US but I guess it doesn't get past the socialist political elite's pockets. Remittances from the U.S. to Honduras, according to the World Bank, have gone from 0.1% in 1970 to 18.8% of it's GDP in 2017. Now, they march on this country and demand a ransom while they proudly wave the flag of the country that they say oppresses them. They sit in squalor in Central America and do not complain while their socialist politicians fill their own pockets. Then, they have the nerve to come here and demand money from the American people to make up for their own poor choices. IMO, it is all nothing but extortion.

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    The only thing we need to "speed" up is their deportations!

    KEEP THEM OFF OUR SOIL!!!

    Process and send their UAC's back within 48 hours! ALL of them!

    Shut our Consulates down and put them on the Travel Ban list...they cannot come here!

    Now making threats and extortion demands of money!

    SHUT THE WHOLE BORDER DOWN UNTIL MEXICO ROUNDS THEM UP AND SENDS THEM BACK!
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    They all work for the cartels. Of course they're extortionists.
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