Thread: At Chicago bakery, labor issues pit blacks against illegal aliens

Originally Posted by Judy

That would still be a problem with the employer, not the worker. Why is the employer using a "temp agency" and signing contracts with short-term part-time workers if the companyt wants long term permanent employees?

Probably because the company needed immediate staffing to meet operation scheduling and goals. That doesn't mean the company didn't eventually plan on staffing with permanent workers.

Let's not forget what brought us to this point in the discussion. The article was purposely written to paint the illegals in a favorable light while diminishing the black community. You seem to be attempting to strengthening the argument for hiring illegals, while I'm attempting to show possible reasons for the large turnover in black labor.

Originally Posted by MW

Probably because the company needed immediate staffing to meet operation scheduling and goals. That doesn't mean the company didn't eventually plan on staffing with permanent workers.

Let's not forget what brought us to this point in the discussion. The article was purposely written to paint the illegals in a favorable light while diminishing the black community. You seem to be attempting to strengthening the argument for hiring illegals, while I'm attempting to show possible reasons for the large turnover in black labor.

The employer is responsible for the turnover and lower efficiency rates they are wrongfully blaming on black workers. You are blaming the black workers, saying oh maybe they didn't want full-time long-term work. I am defending the black workers. The employer is responsible for its turnover and efficiency failures, if any, not black workers.

What you are doing is affirming by possible explanations the false narrative of large turnover in black labor which isn't true, it's false. High turnover and/or lower efficiency ratings are not the fault of the workers, regardless of their race, it's the failure of management and ownership, not the work force.

Originally Posted by Judy

The employer is responsible for the turnover and lower efficiency rates they are wrongfully blaming on black workers. You are blaming the black workers, saying oh maybe they didn't want full-time long-term work. I am defending the black workers. The employer is responsible for its turnover and efficiency failures, if any, not black workers.

What you are doing is affirming by possible explanations the false narrative of large turnover in black labor which isn't true, it's false. High turnover and/or lower efficiency ratings are not the fault of the workers, regardless of their race, it's the failure of management and ownership, not the work force.

You're lost in your own argument.

I'm giving you reason for the high turnover and you're saying one doesn't exist. Well, obviously the facts would disagree with you.

It's senseless attempting a serious discussion with you.

It's not an argument, it's a fact, that employers, not workers, are responsible for high turnover and low efficiency rates.