Dobbs Reaches Out to Latinos, With Politics in Mind

ALIPAC NOTE: Weds morning we will be sending an emergency communique to Lou Dobbs demanding an immediate clarification from Lou Dobbs on the authenticity of this report. We do not trust Telemundo and we do not trust the Wall Street Journal which stands solidly behind amnesty and open borders. We hope that Mr. Dobbs has not changed his stance to favor a path to citizenship for illegals, but we will seek clarification and inform everyone of the results as soon as possible.

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Dobbs reverses position on illegals?


Dobbs Reaches Out to Latinos, With Politics in Mind

By PETER WALLSTEN
Wall Street Journal

Former CNN anchor Lou Dobbs, pondering a future in politics, is trying to wipe away his image as an enemy of Latino immigrants by positioning himself as a champion of that fast-growing ethnic bloc.

Mr. Dobbs, who left the network last week, has said in recent days that he is considering a third-party run for a New Jersey Senate seat in 2012, or possibly for president. Polls show voters unhappy with both parties, and strategists believe Mr. Dobbs could tap populist anger over economy issues just as Ross Perot did in the 1990s.



First, though, Mr. Dobbs is working to repair what a spokesman conceded is a glaring flaw: His reputation for antipathy toward Latino immigrants. In a little-noticed interview Friday, Mr. Dobbs told Spanish-language network Telemundo he now supports a plan to legalize millions of undocumented workers, a stance he long lambasted as an unfair "amnesty."

"Whatever you have thought of me in the past, I can tell you right now that I am one of your greatest friends and I mean for us to work together," he said in a live interview with Telemundo's Maria Celeste. "I hope that will begin with Maria and me and Telemundo and other media organizations and others in this national debate that we should turn into a solution rather than a continuing debate and factional contest."

Mr. Dobbs twice mentioned a possible legalization plan for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S., saying at one point that "we need the ability to legalize illegal immigrants under certain conditions."

Mr. Dobbs couldn't be reached Tuesday. Spokesman Bob Dilenschneider said Mr. Dobbs draws a distinction between illegal immigrants who have committed crimes since arriving in the U.S. and those who are "living upright, positive and constructive lives" who should be "integrated" into society. He said Mr. Dobbs recognizes the political importance of Latinos and is "smoothing the water and clearing the air."
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* WashWire: Dobbs's Outreach to Latinos: What's Going On?

After a career as a broadcaster and Internet entrepreneur, Mr. Dobbs turned himself into a populist firebrand, campaigning against labor outsourcing, free trade and immigration.

Mr. Dobbs left CNN saying he wanted to become an advocate. Immigration advocates, including Ms. Celeste, had long called for his ouster; critics in particular cite a 2007 report on his show that cited erroneous data suggesting illegal immigrants were tied to a spike in leprosy cases in the U.S. Mr. Dobbs told Ms. Celeste the report was a mistake, and blamed a reporter ad-libbing on the air.

Frank Sharry, who heads America's Voice, a group that advocates for legalizing undocumented immigrants, said Mr. Dobbs's conversion isn't credible, given his history of opposing efforts to liberalize immigration policies.

Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project, which seeks strict border enforcement and opposes legalization, said he admired Mr. Dobbs and will "watch him for several months before drawing a conclusion."

Political strategists, however, aren't dismissing the potential power of a Dobbs run. Ed Rollins, a Republican consultant who advised Mr. Perot, said Mr. Dobbs has two big factors in his favor: name recognition and a turbulent economic time that can help a populist, third-party figure.

During his Telemundo appearance, Mr. Dobbs was both defensive and conciliatory as Ms. Celeste ticked off what she said were the Latino community's grievances about Mr. Dobbs. "Many Hispanics consider you to be the No. 1 enemy of Latinos," she told him. "Do you think that the community is somehow misjudging you?"

"Oh, not somehow. Definitively, absolutely," Mr. Dobbs responded. "By the way, I don't believe for a moment that the Latino, Hispanic community in the United States believes that of me at all. It has been the efforts of the far left to characterize me in their propaganda as such."

Mr. Dobbs's relationship with Latinos will be crucial if he chooses to run against Sen. Robert Menendez (D., N.J.), the Senate's lone Hispanic. In response to the possibility, Menendez spokesman Afshin Mohamadi said: "I'm sure that he would relish eventually having an opponent from so far out of the mainstream who has never delivered a thing to the hard-working people of New Jersey."
—T. W. Farnam and Nomaan Merchant contributed to this article.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125910998942663259.html

Thanks William. We will look forward to clarification.

One of the first things that makes me suspicious about this is that if Lou Dobbs actually said these things like the WSJ is claiming then there should already be shock waves rippling through the Spanish media.

If this is true, our opposition should be jumping in our faces already screaming victory chants at us.

Perhaps they don't know about this yet, but I find it surprising that a Telemundo interview of this potential would come to us first instead of the opposition groups.

That makes me very suspicious.

I found this video clip which is from three days ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQxbzQpEWRg

W

This article makes no mention of Lou Dobbs claiming to support a path to citizenship.

Lou Dobbs: That Was Then, This Is Now

* November 24, 2009, 8:00 PM ET

By Nomaan Merchant
Wall Street Journal Blogs

Lou Dobbs, the former CNN anchor who is considering a new career in politics, has quickly been distancing himself from earlier on-camera fuming about illegal immigrants.

Just this past Friday, he sat down for an interview with Telemundo’s Maria Celeste: “Whatever you have thought of me in the past I can tell you right now that I am one of your greatest friends and I mean for us to work together.â€

We need the entire Lou Dobbs interview on Telemundo as soon as we can get it.

W

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Mr. Dobbs twice mentioned a possible legalization plan for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S., saying at one point that "we need the ability to legalize illegal immigrants under certain conditions."

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I don't think this is a change in his position, I think he said the same thing in the past about about legalization under certain limited conditions on a case by case basis, rather than a general amnesty like the LaRazi's support.

Chris Simcox says basically the same thing, they must have the same political advisor! You know how politicians like to talk out of both sides of their mouth.

I guess the big question is whether he thinks illegals with US born "anchor babies" should be allowed to stay since that in itself would end up creating a general amnesty.

We need the ability to have our immigration laws enforced, period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D8H7GeT ... re=related

Here is a video of Dobbs and Celeste where Dobbs mentions that there should be a "middle" ground reached on immigration. The video has Spanish translated but you can lightly hear the English conversation.

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Here is a video of Dobbs and Celeste where Dobbs mentions that there should be a "middle" ground reached on immigration. The video has Spanish translated but you can lightly hear the English conversation.

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That won't ever fly, like Mark Krikorian noted, there is no middle ground with groups with LaRaza, if you do not agree to unrestricted Latino immigration and benefits for them they believe you are a hateful, violent racist.

After all they are "The Race" and this is their Continent, that is how they think, what they believe.

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http://www.alipac.us/article-4729--0-0.html

This woman is trying to run a one woman Kangaroo Court. Real legitimate immigrants are offended by the efforts to equate undocumented aliens as immigrants.

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Moderator, You are going to want to erase this remark once you understand it.

There are already conditions under which illegal aliens could qualify for legalization however most illegal aliens do not qualify for them.

Richard: What did you say? I went to translate this...lol...and I got the following:

Lou Dobbs is as always a gentleman and people and women wondering what a donut is like red but not like in a court and in the bathroom sometimes monthly.

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There are already conditions under which illegal aliens could qualify for legalization however most illegal aliens do not qualify for them.

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But when he says under certain conditions, he does not clarify what conditions. So since he is being rather vague....and at the same time changing his tone, it seems like bad news.

This is part of what Lou Dobbs said about this issue on page 162 in his 2007 book Independents Day (my entry about the 1965 Immigration Act in brackets). Someone should ask Mr. Dobbs if we should believe the "false assurances" from Janet Napolitano about border enforcement in light of what she and the administration have done to weaken immigration enforcement:

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"Twenty-one years later [after the 1965 Immigration Act], President Ronald Reagan signed into law amnesty for more than three million illegal aliens who had entered the country. President Reagan then promised that new employers sanctions would 'remove the incentive for illegal immigration by eliminating the job opportunities,' and that the law's amnesty provision would allow millions who were hiding in the shadows to 'step into the sunlight.'

And now, after another twenty-one years, we hear the same language, as the proamnesty and open borders advocates demand that American citizens ignore history, reason, and the national interest. They are again marketing the same false assurances about border enforcement and insist there will be no social or economic cost to the taxpayer or the nation. A record of more than four decades of disruptive and destructive immigration policy initiatives should be a sufficient history lesson for all Americans."

There is NO way I would vote for this man for public office. He spent the entire interview in an argumentative state. He has no substance, nor does he have any qualitites that should be promoted. Americans do NOT want amnesty for 12-20 Million illegal aliens. We do not want another politician that thinks we should promote illegal aliens to citizen status, just because.
He did NOT clarify the newswoman's questions. He sputtered, and NEVER actually got to anything substative. NO TO PUBLIC OFFICE OF ANY KIND FOR LOU DOBBS.

I think they got to his wife and that is why he did the interview.

I was very disappointed in him.

He looked like he was uncomfortable in the beginning of the interview.

But why do this interview on telemundo?

Maybe the shots at his home were closer then we thought.

Maybe he received a bloody horse head in his bed from the drug cartels. He looked like he was fighting himself. He kind of looked like he was saying things someone made him say.

Are you sure his wife is Mexican American and not just Mexican. What if the drug cartels have someone in her family.

I don't watch his often, but this did not sound like the man I have watched before

It should be obvious that Mr. Dobbs is seriously considering a run for either the Senate or the Presidency. In either case he must obscure his actual stance on any subject to try and please all sides. That is what politicians do if they want to get elected or stay in office. I am disappointed that he takes this track. It would be better, in my opinion, to run on his beliefs and be defeated (if in fact he would be) than lie and win. We have way too many of those people in office now, and that is the greatest problem in this country today.

I had pledged $$ support for Mr. Dobbs in a run for office, I will withdraw that support if he continues to act like "just one more politician".

By the way, not ALL elected officials do this, I know because I am one. I chose not to run for a second term because I believe elected office is a temporary service to ones country and community not a way of life.

So, Dobbs becomes a politician, and immediately morphs from a straight shooter into a lying, duplicitous pile of dung! Is there no one who can be trusted any more? Lou, issue a clarification immediately…[b]if you confirm that you’re now pro-amnesty to pander to NJ’s “Latino communityâ€

His Hispanic wifes parents were clearly so in appearance but both born here.

When I first heard that he was going to possibly run in 2012 I thought..... why would anyone want to vote for a man who for years was working for a company who was in the habit of NOT reporting the news! People are going to jump so quickly to indorse someone like this? WHY? We the people have awakened and we are going to have our pick of who we want to represent us in 2012. I would not vote for this man just based on the
fact that he's from the "lamestream media" To me that's reason enough
in itself!

I am not surprised at all that Lou took this stance. I have sent Lou FACTS about subjects he has obfuscated truth on, and he refused to look at the facts and correct his retorhic. That was the day I realized that some people don't like hard truths. A hard truth is something that you don't want to believe because you are emotionally tied to it. Someone who is honest, is so for both easy and hard truths!

Lou Dobbs is just another panderer politician who got started once he thought he had the path to public office made with support, now his only support (Anti-illegal immigration folks) will seperate themselves and their support from Dobbs. That means no one will support him. Unless this turns out to be some form of manipulation by Telemundo, Dobbs is sunk!!!!

Lou supports amnesty for MILLIONS of illegal aliens

just like Obama,

Bush,

Clinton,

McCain,

Palin,

Biden,

etc.

I can never vote for any of them.

Remove me from petition list I signed yesterday supporting Lou for President. I saw interveiw of Lou Dobbs with Maria, a Puerto Rican actress and now television reporter with Telemundo--he is no better than the others who are in limelight. I say go with Mitt Romney!! Forget Palin, forget Dobbs for president..

I watched the interview. I was disappointed that Lou tried to be so diplomatic and allowed 11 mins to go down over the leprosy thing. Lou, sadly, did not read the riot act and set these people straight. We all know telemundo is like the propaganda arm for the pro-amnesty latinos. He, in my opinion failed to properly confront this Maria person and call a lie a lie. Just like her claim Arpaio started the pink underwear thing with illegals. A pure lie and any honest observer knows it. Lou shouldv'e said: "Maria, you aren't interested in honest debate, I am leaving now" She was worried it is inhumane if applied to illegals, never mind it is done to actual natural born American citizens. What a joke.
Telemundo promulgates all sorts of disinformation and downright anti American behavior and Lou was far too tolerant. Frankly I don't know what he was thinking.
He could have blasted actual questions and made actual points. Instead of saying that 25% of inmates is far and away disproportionate to the population he allowed her to make it about whether he said 27% or 33%. Very disappointing.
A message to Lou: Don't bother, they aren't interested in honest debate, it is pointless.

He's probably tired of being shot at!! You can't disagree with Pro-Amnesty people and expect to be safe.

Just as much as people lie about being tough on Illegals and then once elected do nothing, well maybe Lou is doing the same thing except backward!

Anyway he decided to say that bull crap and needs to pick a side and stick to it.

The world is officially backasswards.

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We need the entire Lou Dobbs interview on Telemundo as soon as we can get it.

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I believe you will find it here.

http://msnlatino.telemundo.com/shows/Al ... d0750bcc7f

Other stories and links here:
http://oneoldvet.com/?p=9039

Disappointing, very sad and disappointing. :(

This is really quite shocking and terribly disappointing. Not too many people who stand by their principles anymore. Somebody must have gotten to him.

This can't be real!

If it is it is a crying shame, but I will help vote against anyone who votes for anything even related to amnesty.

as bad as people needs jobs these days

Im very skeptical about this reporting on Lou Dobbs. Could this be a hoax? Lot of new recruits commenting. Something dosnt seem right.

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Im very skeptical about this reporting on Lou Dobbs. Could this be a hoax? Lot of new recruits commenting. Something dosnt seem right.

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I was just going to say something very similar.

Lou Dobbs has been consistent in his opinion on illegals and this interview was no different than what he's said in the past.

He allowed her to dominate the "interview" but he has always been cordial on his radio and TV shows.

I heard Lou Dobbs say exactly what he's been saying all along. Fix immigration and secure the borders.

Hi all. I can't believe my acct hasn't been deleted. :wink:

I don't believe this, no really, I don't believe it.

Lou has been telling the truth for a LONG time, in the darkest hours when it mattered most. I will listen and give him a chance. I feel that with all the reporting he has done over time I KNOW where his heart is - I think he definately wants the best for AMERICANS.

I grew up in NJ - and I know it's been sliding down over the last 15 years (maybe more). If Lou became Senator of NJ it would be the best thing for the state - ABSOLUTELY. I truly wish he is successful with his efforts. Let's give him a chance.

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Im very skeptical about this reporting on Lou Dobbs. Could this be a hoax? Lot of new recruits commenting. Something dosnt seem right.

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I don't think it's a hoax, but I did notice that there were a lot of people posting their first post on the Lou Dobbs articles. But I didn't want to sound paranoid.

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I grew up in NJ - and I know it's been sliding down over the last 15 years (maybe more). If Lou became Senator of NJ it would be the best thing for the state - ABSOLUTELY. I truly wish he is successful with his efforts. Let's give him a chance.

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Well, you have a point... Lou couldn't be anything but an improvement over Menendez.

Dixie

I am greatly disappointed with Mr.Dobbs. He has morphed into a true politician. He back pedaled on just about everything he stood for on his CNN show. When he was asked why he referred to illegal 'immigrants' as criminals he should have said because they have broke the law by coming into this country illegally and hence they are criminals. Worse yet, he did not support Sheriff Arpaio (?sp); the only real law enforcement officer in this country.

I signed up to support Lou if he decided to run for President. However, I am withdrawing my support at this time.

BTW. not all politicians act this way. Remember Tom Tancredo. Unfortunately, he did not get any support from the American people when he ran for the Presidency.

I would support Lou for a lower-ranking office, like mayor of his town, county executive, or perhaps a state assemblyman position. At the most, a Congressman in the House of Representatives. I wouldn't support him for President or U.S. Senator or even governor at this time. Too much responsibility and limelight. We need to see how he would do with a much smaller pool of constituents, who would hold him accountable. If he passes the small test, maybe he can pass the big test.

I think that we should support Ron Paul for president. A man who has been CONSISTENT in his beliefs and voting records for over 30 years. He is the one who everyone is coming to regarding our financial crisis, would bring our troops home from two wars where there can be no physical victory, secure our borders, and is generally pretty good with immigration. Lou would be better than many other candidates for president, but when the going gets tough, would he be a man of the "people" and do what public opinion says, or would he follow the Constitution and do what we are legally obligated to do? Lou is a good man, but my gut tells me that he would more likely look for adoration and public acceptance in some situations. Ron Paul not so much.

Ostrich

Let us not forget where Dobbs came from! CNN(communist news network) and Ted Turner. Dobbs found a nitch with the illegal issue. Then started backing off. He was very gentel with the pro illegal group. I thought since out of the big five, Hannity, Oreilly, Dobbs and Beck, and Rush, he is the only veteran. Don't think he was in combat, but he served. Does that make a difference? Yes it does. All of them have theiron personal agenda--success. Just compare to ALIPAC, Minutemen (when they started), Patriotic coalition...who rakes in the money?, the news casters. Even with the tea parties, they attended the first one's and you could not find them after that.
Mr. Dobbs will have to be watched closely. I am sure his words like "wants a bridge to legalization". While with the State Department I saw what happened when Ted Kennedy got through congress the expansion of legal immigration, with the clause "diversification". 100,000 to 1,000,000 .Those within the more conservative members was and is known as "genocide by immigration". Now on the gulf coast of Texas where big oil is located you have H2B and Latin people with passports and illigals doing the construction jobs. No workman comp, no unemployment, no social security.
Regards,
Crusader

As far as I know Lou has never advocated the removal of the illegals in this country, he has always preached about securing the border and ports then we could open the debate on the people already here.

Even if Lou Dobbs changed his platform, I feel that all I have seen over a very long period of time would lead me to believe that if he got elected, he would enact the laws needed to get illegal immigration under control.
I believe he will retaliate against who threatened his family.