Thread: Fear drives many illegal immigrants from Mexico to Oklahoma

EXCELLENT question! Ditto from me...just WHEN is it the end of catering to everyone else on the planet?

Originally Posted by Captainron

Aren't there safer areas of Mexico they could move to? Of course, they always pick the US as a safe haven.

Absolutely Captainron.

I have a friend who lives in Mexico and they travel all over the country.I asked if they were worried about their safety ? They laughed and said they feel safer there then in our big cities.

According to my friend once you get away from the border life is pretty normal for citizens of Mexico.

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

Who buys the drugs that support the cartels?
Who benefits from employing illegals at substandard wages and safety?
Who benefits from legalization and a path to citizenship?

If I lived in Mexico, I would sneak in here ASAP and you would, too.
We have seen the real enemy of our country: it is us.

Watson, I have two problems with your statement. First, I am not "us" and neither are millions of other Americans. I didn't invite them, I don't use their drugs and I don't benefit from their presence. I don't give a rats ass about saving a nickel on a head of lettuce or that they are mowing someones yard. Second, your statement sounds more like an apology/excuse than an explanation. Bad or stupid behavior on someone else part doesn't justify what is being done to this country. Yes, SOMEONE is benefiting from their presence here, but my question is "so what?". Someone benefits from the bombings and murders committed by Al Qaeda but we surely shouldn't give them a pass!!

We are in a war to save this country from invasion and extinction as a culture. Period. Now, let's get about the business of securing our borders and catching and punishing the invaders.

My questions are legitimate. I didn't invite them either, or use the drugs, and I would rather pay an American a decent wage to pick my food than an illegal. But our country did and continues to do so. And, even though we both individually disagree with it, the world isn't getting its information from you or me. It's getting it from us, or if you prefer US.

My statement is not an apology. It's a statement of fact. People do come here for a better life, and I bet you would too. So punish them, send them back all you want. Until the carrots that bring them here are gone, until all those benefitting from illegals are stopped, all the punishment in the world will be like pushing back wet sand at the beach.

My questions are legitimate. I didn't invite them either, or use the drugs, and I would rather pay an American a decent wage to pick my food than an illegal. But our country did and continues to do so

Yes, there are some in this country who are profiting from IA's by breaking the law. They have also broken the law and deserve harsh punishment. I guess the point that I am failing to get across is that Americans are suffering because of the greed of a few. So when you refer to "us" or "our country" you are painting everyone with a broad stroke as the "cause".
I agree that the carrots have to be removed. The system is rigged against citizens and for aliens. This is what we need to be correcting starting in November. I do firmly believe though that a strong military presence on the border will make a significant difference. A few well placed 5.56mm rounds is a strong incentive to stay away. IMO, lethal force should be employed and rightly so.

there is not persecution, there were a few opportunistic and extortionists taking advantage of the drug cartels war for power and the government`s involvement so a few thousand got harrased especially the rich and middle class but where rewarded by the US by obtaining refuge status, so a lot of people took advantage to lie about persecution and got access, as a Mexican it makes me sick these people should be here fighting for a Mexican change instead of living the good life, darn man we got to do something to bring all these non english speaking idiots home!

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

My questions are legitimate. I didn't invite them either, or use the drugs, and I would rather pay an American a decent wage to pick my food than an illegal. But our country did and continues to do so

Yes, there are some in this country who are profiting from IA's by breaking the law. They have also broken the law and deserve harsh punishment. I guess the point that I am failing to get across is that Americans are suffering because of the greed of a few. So when you refer to "us" or "our country" you are painting everyone with a broad stroke as the "cause".
I agree that the carrots have to be removed. The system is rigged against citizens and for aliens. This is what we need to be correcting starting in November. I do firmly believe though that a strong military presence on the border will make a significant difference. A few well placed 5.56mm rounds is a strong incentive to stay away. IMO, lethal force should be employed and rightly so.

I think we have actually have real agreement. It was my intent to paint how our country is represented, and I most certainly agree the citizens are poorly represented. I believe there is an issue with military force (posse comitas???) but national guard would work, but how long could it be kept up without destroying carrots? This is certainly a coin of two sides.

Originally Posted by Watson

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

My questions are legitimate. I didn't invite them either, or use the drugs, and I would rather pay an American a decent wage to pick my food than an illegal. But our country did and continues to do so

Yes, there are some in this country who are profiting from IA's by breaking the law. They have also broken the law and deserve harsh punishment. I guess the point that I am failing to get across is that Americans are suffering because of the greed of a few. So when you refer to "us" or "our country" you are painting everyone with a broad stroke as the "cause".
I agree that the carrots have to be removed. The system is rigged against citizens and for aliens. This is what we need to be correcting starting in November. I do firmly believe though that a strong military presence on the border will make a significant difference. A few well placed 5.56mm rounds is a strong incentive to stay away. IMO, lethal force should be employed and rightly so.

I think we have actually have real agreement. It was my intent to paint how our country is represented, and I most certainly agree the citizens are poorly represented. I believe there is an issue with military force (posse comitas???) but national guard would work, but how long could it be kept up without destroying carrots? This is certainly a coin of two sides.

First we stop the bleeding then we jail the guy who shot us in the butt!

Originally Posted by roxa70

there is not persecution, there were a few opportunistic and extortionists taking advantage of the drug cartels war for power and the government`s involvement so a few thousand got harrased especially the rich and middle class but where rewarded by the US by obtaining refuge status, so a lot of people took advantage to lie about persecution and got access, as a Mexican it makes me sick these people should be here fighting for a Mexican change instead of living the good life, darn man we got to do something to bring all these non english speaking idiots home!

I agree with you Roxa.

I suggest you ask LaRaza,who gets millions of dollars every year,why they are not working to help the people they represent stay in their homes instead of coming to the USA ? I would ask the same question of LULAC and MALDEF.

They lobby our Government but won't lift a finger to help make life better for those who do the right thing,respect our laws and stay in their home country.