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    Hannity Lies To Discredit Ron Paul After Debate

    Hannity Lies To Discredit Ron Paul After Debate
    Claims "Paulites" flood voted to skew text poll, yet only one vote per phone number was allowed
    Paul Joseph Watson
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    Thursday, September 6, 2007 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/se ... y_lies.htm



    NOTE: see the article link for two very good videos of Ron Paul's answer to questions form the biased panel trying to discredit him

    Fox News and Sean Hannity tried to discredit Ron Paul last night after the latest debate by claiming the Texas Congressman's runaway success in the subsequent text messaging poll was due to "Paulites" flood voting, when in fact only one vote per phone number was allowed.

    Ernest Raposa, a viewer in New Bedford, MA, decided to text in his support for Ron Paul and received a message back stating, "FOX News UVOTE: Thank you for voting! Watch Hannity & Colmes for the results."

    "As the show progressed, it became obvious, as we have seen previously, that Ron Paul had the most support, hovering around 33 per cent," writes Raposa. "Around 11:25pm EST Hannity declared that though Ron Paul had DOUBLE the support of the tied for second place Giuliani and Huckabee it was clear that the "Paulites" were simply dialing in over and over again, devaluing his lead."

    Aiming to test Hannity's theory, Raposa attempted to text in a second vote for Ron Paul from the same cellphone. He received a message back saying, "You have already voted on tonight's debate. Thank you for your participation."

    Only one vote per cellphone was allowed, therefore Hannity's contention that Ron Paul supporters were "were simply dialing in over and over again" was nothing more than a brazen lie intended to dismiss the Congressman's widespread popularity. No one at Fox News bothered to correct Hannity and no retraction was issued.

    Debunkers continually claim that Paul's success in text message and internet polls is merely a result of a small group of supporters zealously "spamming" or "flooding" the polls when in fact votes are limited to one per IP address and one per cellphone number.

    Such dirty tactics from Neo-Con stooge Hannity and Fox News were merely a continuation of Fox's policy to attack Ron Paul throughout the broadcast.

    Despite the fact that the New Hampshire audience broke out in spontaneous wild applause at almost everything the Congressman said, Fox News deliberately boosted the microphones of the other candidates when Paul was speaking, making sure the snickers of Giuliani, Romney and the rest were clearly audible.

    Establishment darlings were once again afforded shed loads more time and even nobodies like Huckabee and Brownback got twice the amount of questions compared to the Congressman. Paul got the chance to answer just three direct questions in a 90 minute debate.

    Fox News moderators weighed in with glee in an attempt to ruffle, smear and sidetrack Ron Paul. His first question revolved around a purposeful misquote of the Congressman's position on allowing pilots to be armed and it only went downhill from there.

    "The second question though revealed the unbelievable bias of Fox News," writes Anthony Wade. "In response to a question about Iraq and troops, Paul reiterated that we needed to pull the troops home, period. He has consistently said that we need to address the entire foreign policy and start protecting our own borders and our own country. In response to the false notion that there would be a “bloodbathâ€
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    Ron Paul trouncing the Opposition in the post-debate MSNBC Poll:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18963731/
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    Typical. When the truth doesn't suit you, just lie. Disgusting and disgraceful for an American citizen to behave in such a manner.
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    Underdog Paul Inspires Political Passion
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    Thursday September 6, 2007
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/se ... derdog.htm

    Passengers on a plane leaving New York could see three words in 4-foot block letters painted on an East Village rooftop terrace as they ascended: GOOGLE RON PAUL. The entreaty to search the Internet for news of the Republican congressman from rural Texas is one of the more visible signs of enthusiasm from a do-it-yourself base of Web fans. Their support doesn't show up in public opinion polls, but it's unmatched among presidential candidates in its passion.

    On their own, the fans have developed a Ron Paul Revolution logo, marketing the idea through YouTube. Message boards and Web sites debate his virtues.

    The Web fans for Paul's anti-establishment campaign run away with online polls and blanket Web sites with caps-locked, exclamation-point endorsements of the contrarian Republican, even though he measures no more than 2 percent in most national opinion polls.

    The supporters have an entrepreneurial drive and get their political news from Internet sources outside the mainstream media, especially blogs and news aggregators that rely on popular vote to determine news value.

    That same spirit inspires them to canvass parade routes in 100-degree heat, argue campaign strategy in two-hour meetings or paint the roof of a Manhattan apartment building.

    "To get your arms around everything and understand what is going on is really impossible to do," Paul spokesman Jesse Benton said of supporters roaming the Web.

    Paul's message is gospel among his base, which Benton described as mostly old-school conservatives.

    Supporters can recite his talking points at length.

    "They forge their own intellectual world to find the obscure, unusual sources of information that lead them to obscure, unusual candidates like Ron Paul," said Brian Doherty, a columnist for the libertarian magazine Reason.

    Avery Knapp is typical of the Paul Web supporter. A 28-year-old radiology resident, Knapp describes himself as a lifelong conservative who voted for President Bush in 2000 before growing disillusioned with the Iraq war and federal spending.

    Bush "did nothing but increase the size of government. The Republican Party needs to move back to its core principles," Knapp said. Many Paul supporters share Knapp's disdain for what he called a "neo-conservative clique" and hope Paul can spark a Goldwater-style insurgency.

    At 46, Kevin Leslie has never bothered with politics. After watching an interview with Paul during his 1988 campaign as candidate for the Libertarian Party, Leslie told himself, "If this guy ever runs for president again, I'll back him."

    Paul did, and Leslie was good to his word, starting a prominent Paul blog in February and traveling to the recent straw poll in Ames, Iowa.

    Paul has attracted a contingent of previously apolitical and even left-leaning Americans like Leslie who support his call to pull all troops out of Iraq immediately and who like his reputation for opposing any legislation not linked to principles already expressed in the Constitution.

    "I've already been surprised by how much traction his campaign has gotten," Doherty said. "He's a clever politician because these netroots types can call him a 'true conservative,' a 'constitutionalist' or whatever they call themselves, and he's sensitive to that."

    Whatever their political background, the supporters all consider themselves part of a spray-paint and duct-tape "Ron Paul Revolution." Four banners with that unofficial logo hang from the fire escapes of the Manhattan building.

    "They couldn't reel us in if they wanted to. Most everything has become an unofficial-official part of the campaign," said Dave Gallagher, whose cadre of Paul supporters came up with the Ron Paul Revolution logo.

    Gallagher claims to have started the first group for Paul supporters on Meetup.com, a Web site geared toward the kind of networking that helped presidential candidate Howard Dean's supporters organize in 2004.

    In the six months since, more than 30,000 people have joined Meetup groups in more than 700 places across the country. Paul's Meetup presence surpassed Dean's in just two months, said Andres Glusman, vice president of Meetup.com.

    "Because people have the power to self-organize here, it's obvious that he's hitting a chord that is resonating with people in a way the media is not acknowledging," Glusman said.

    This weekend, Paul will be the major Republican candidate to attend a Texas GOP straw poll in Fort Worth. Straw polls typically are won by the candidate who does the best job turning out dedicated supporters. All the top tier candidates in the race — and a few lower-rung candidates as well — are bypassing the event.

    When Paul supporters get together, they often find themselves thrown into the intricacies of running an insurgent campaign, attorney Steven Heath said after a Meetup session in Dallas.

    "These guys in Meetup, hardly any of them have any political experience," Heath said. "These people are newbies. They're about to get plugged in, and they'll be plugged in with Paul's ideas."
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    Ya know, I've lost allot of respect for Hannity now because of this and that last debate. Somehow, the flip flopper "magically" won the last debate as well. Which is odd because up until the last ten minutes of the debate, Paul was in the lead by at least 9%.

    I just took the poll on MSNBC, and look at the results.
    Yet if you go over to Fox news, you don't even see Paul's results on the latest debate.

    And, how in the hell is mclamebrain getting so many high numbers? Is he the new Fox news media favorite? GAG ME...

    Who stood out from the pack? * 45344 responses

    Sam Brownback 0.8%
    Jim Gilmore 0.5%

    Rudy Giuliani 6.9%
    Mike Huckabee 2.9%

    Duncan Hunter 0.9%
    John McCain 4.7%

    Ron Paul 73%
    Mitt Romney 6.9%

    Tom Tancredo 2.2%
    Tommy Thompson 1.7%

    Who showed the most leadership qualities? * 44974 responses

    Sam Brownback 0.8%
    Jim Gilmore 0.6%

    Rudy Giuliani 7.8%
    Mike Huckabee 2.2%

    Duncan Hunter 1.1%
    John McCain 6.3%

    Ron Paul 70%
    Mitt Romney 7.6%

    Tom Tancredo 1.7%
    Tommy Thompson 1.6%

    Who was the most convincing candidate? * 44778 responses

    Sam Brownback 0.8%
    Jim Gilmore 0.6%

    Rudy Giuliani 6.9%
    Mike Huckabee 2.8%

    Duncan Hunter 1%
    John McCain 5%

    Ron Paul 72%
    Mitt Romney 7.2%

    Tom Tancredo 1.9%
    Tommy Thompson 1.6%

    Who had the most rehearsed answers? * 44129 responses

    Sam Brownback 1.9%
    Jim Gilmore 0.9%

    Rudy Giuliani 41%
    Mike Huckabee 2.2%

    Duncan Hunter 0.9%
    John McCain 18%

    Ron Paul 8.1%
    Mitt Romney 23%

    Tom Tancredo 1.3%
    Tommy Thompson 2.6%

    Who avoided the questions? * 43821 responses

    Sam Brownback 2.6%
    Jim Gilmore 1.5%

    Rudy Giuliani 48%
    Mike Huckabee 1.9%

    Duncan Hunter 1.2%
    John McCain 14%

    Ron Paul 6.1%
    Mitt Romney 21%

    Tom Tancredo 1.6%
    Tommy Thompson 2.6%

    Who had the best one-liner? * 43285 responses

    Sam Brownback 1.4%
    Jim Gilmore 1.2%

    Rudy Giuliani 12%
    Mike Huckabee 6.2%

    Duncan Hunter 1.7%
    John McCain 7.1%

    Ron Paul 54%
    Mitt Romney 5.1%

    Tom Tancredo 6.3%
    Tommy Thompson 4.8%

    Look at the results from the WND poll as well.
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/

    Who won the Republican presidential debate?
    Ron Paul 38.07% (699)

    Fred Thompson, by his decision not to participate 19.44% (357)

    Mike Huckabee 10.02% (184)

    Tom Tancredo 9.48% (174)

    There were stellar performances by several, I can't pick just one winner 7.30% (134)

    Rudy Giuliani 4.30% (79)

    Duncan Hunter 3.98% (73)

    Mitt Romney 3.59% (66)

    John McCain 2.72% (50)

    Sam Brownback 1.09% (20)
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    TOTAL VOTES: 1836
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    I almost think it would be better if Dr Paul doesn't win the Republican nomination. Though he has said he wouldn't run as an independent candidate I think he has waaay too much support to turn back now. Looking at the "front runners" of both the Democrats and Republicans it's scary to think that any of them will be running this country.
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    They do not want Paul in so they are refusing to report the truth. They were even doing some audio tricks. Very low down.
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    Ron Paul rocked!
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    Fox News Debate Won By Ron Paul Despite Ridicule

    Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007


    LAWFUEL - The Legal Newswire - ThinkRink Blog - It is obvious that, after seeing the Fox News Debates on Sept. 5th, 2007, the mainstream media and GOP see Ron Paul as enough of a threat to stop ignoring him, and to start ridiculing him. From using a split screen to show Giuliani smirking as Ron Paul answers his questions, to the background chuckles as he is asked questions, Ron Paul has apparently become the butt of an inside joke.

    However, with a 33% win in the post-debate poll, it is Ron Paul who should be laughing. Of course, Sean Hannity could not resist making the ridiculous statement that the “Paulitesâ€
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