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    Caravan of more than 1,000 migrants moves north, triggering outrage from Trump










    Honduran migrants rest inside an improvised shelter in Esquipulas. Starting in San Pedro Sula, Honduras, a group of more than 1,000 Honduran migrants arrived in Esquipulas, Guatemala, on Oct. 15. (Daniele Volpe/For The Washington Post)
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    October 16 at 12:34 PM

    ESQUIPULAS, Guatemala — A caravan of Honduran migrants bound for the United States streamed across Guatemala’s southern border on Monday night and quickly drew a rebuke from President Trump, who threatened to withdraw all aid to Honduras unless it somehow recalled its citizens.


    The migrant caravan included well over 1,000 people and is expected to continue to expand as it moves north across Guatemala and Mexico. On Tuesday morning, after the group had crossed into Guatemala, Trump wrote on Twitter he had informed the Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández that “if the large Caravan of people heading to the U.S. is not stopped and brought back to Honduras, no more money or aid will be given to Honduras, effective immediately!”


    The migrants — who say they are traveling in search of jobs, better lives for their families and an escape from gang threats and violent communities — were blocked at the Honduras-Guatemala border for several hours Monday by Guatemalan police in riot gear before eventually being allowed to pass. They made camp for the night at a Catholic school in the southern city of Esquipulas and continued north Tuesday morning.


    Trump has made such migrant caravans a symbol of all that is wrong with U.S. immigration policies. Earlier this year, Trump’s criticism turned a previous migrant caravan into a spectacle, with day-by-day media coverage of the journey. That episode caused a spat between the United States and Mexico and was used to justify a deployment of National Guard troops to the border.



    Honduran migrants line up to receive food in an improvised shelter in Esquipulas. (Daniele Volpe/For The Washington Post)

    This time, Mexico said it intends to stop the caravan.


    When the migrants arrive at Mexico’s southern border, “the migration personnel will review compliance with the legal requirements, and those who do not comply, will not be allowed entry,” the National Institute of Migration, the government’s migration agency, said in a statement Tuesday.


    Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman Katie Waldman said in a statement Monday the current caravan “is what we see day-in and day-out at the border as a result of well-advertised and well-known catch-and-release loopholes.”


    “As we have said time and again, until Congress acts, we will continue to have de-facto open borders that guarantee future “caravans” and record numbers of family units entering the country illegally,” Waldman said.


    By “catch-and-release,” the administration refers to the common practice by U.S. immigration authorities of briefly detaining migrants and asylum seekers before releasing them with ankle bracelets while their immigration cases are pending. From the last caravan, a few hundred people applied for asylum in the United States, but it is unclear how many remain in the country or whether any were granted asylum.


    This time around, the migrant caravan appears to be even larger than before, with estimates as high as 3,000 people, according to volunteers working with the group. Some migrants say they expect to settle in Mexico, but most intend to reach the United States, with many hoping to apply for asylum. Traveling in a large group offers additional safety for what is a dangerous journey through Mexico; it also saves people thousands of dollars they might otherwise pay for a smuggler.


    “I saw the caravan on the news,” said Maria Amparo Gutierrez Garcia, 24, who left behind her 7-year-old daughter in Honduras to join the migrants with her husband. “In the same instant, I decided to come. I didn’t want to miss this chance.”



    Honduran migrants line up to receive food in an improvised shelter in Esquipulas. (Daniele Volpe/For The Washington Post)

    After the standoff at the border, the migrants walked into Esquipulas and convened at a Catholic school, where church volunteers handed out sandwiches and plates of pasta. Soon after their arrival, at least three migrants, including two children, were loaded into ambulances, apparently suffering from exhaustion or dehydration after hours walking and waiting in the sun.


    Joel Garcia, a 22-year-old construction worker from the Honduran coastal city of Tela, joined the caravan after being deported from Mexico last year during a previous attempt to reach the United States. He said gangs had killed members of his family and he could not earn enough to support his diabetic mother. He slipped out of the house on Saturday morning wearing Nike flip-flops for the nearly 3,000 mile trip; someone later gave him a pair of socks.


    “I left without telling my wife,” he said. “I didn’t want her to suffer.”


    Garcia had teamed up with a new friend, Brian Sanchez, an 18-year-old high school graduate who aspired to work in IT but could not find a job in Honduras. Sanchez called his mother on Sunday to tell her he had joined the caravan.


    “She said, ‘You’re crazy,’” he recalled. “But I want something better for me and my sister.”

    Honduran migrants rest inside an improvised shelter in Esquipulas. (Daniele Volpe/For The Washington Post)

    These caravans are organized by migrant advocates and have taken place for the past several years to raise awareness about the violent and impoverished conditions in Central America and Mexico. But usually they passed with little notice and in smaller numbers. During the previous caravan in April, the numbers dwindled by the time they reached the U.S. border.


    There was no immediate response from the Honduran government about Trump’s threat to cut funding. Honduras is expected to receive $66 million from the United States in fiscal year 2019.


    Since taking office, the Trump administration has reduced aid to Central America, and that has drawn criticism from leaders in the region. Hernandez told Reuters last month that reduced aid “will obviously have repercussions” including more immigration, because previous efforts were intended to “attack the migration problem at its root.”


    In a speech last week, Vice President Pence thanked the Honduran president for his immigration efforts and said the United States.was “grateful” Honduras had agreed to double its border police force from 400 to 800 people by 2020.
    As the caravans have become more widely known, they are attracting larger crowds. Among those who entered Esquipulas on Monday were children and people with disabilities.



    A Honduran migrant rests inside an improvised shelter in Esquipulas. (Daniele Volpe/For The Washington Post)

    The towns they pass through in Central America and Mexico often give them warm receptions, with volunteers from the communities distributing donated supplies to them.
    “People are giving us food out of the kindness of their hearts,” Sanchez said. “Only your President Donald Trump doesn’t like us.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post


    “I saw the caravan on the news,” said Maria Amparo Gutierrez Garcia, 24, who left behind her 7-year-old daughter in Honduras to join the migrants with her husband. “In the same instant, I decided to come. I didn’t want to miss this chance.”
    The violence and poverty so bad, but both parents leave behind a 7 year old child.

    Separating child from parent is A_OK on that end, but causes a national crisis once they reach the border.

    One 22 year old left without telling his wife, he didn't want her to suffer. I suppose it is better to have her think he just disappeared, no worries then.

    These reporters really need to do a better job with sob stories.
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    Trump...cut off EVERY dime to Guatemala and every country they pass through!

    SEND THEM BACK

    SEND THEM BACK

    SEND THEM BACK!!!
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    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    “The problem is that he (Bartolo Fuentes) did not comply with Guatemalan immigration rules and will have to be returned to Honduras in the coming hours,” said ministry spokesman Jair Meza.

    U.S. President Donald Trump threatened on Tuesday to withdraw funding and aid from Honduras if it does not stop the caravan.
    Indeed.

    GOOD!!

    Now go round up the cartels and other criminals who financed this scourge.
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    Send buses to LOAD them up and send them ALL back!

    Stop them in their tracks NOW!

    Go in at 3am...load them up...fingerprint and process them ON the bus back home!
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    Don't let them in, and we don't have to do anything. They can march back to Honduras or stay in Mexico until they run their asses out and they will. These are not good people, these are radical, socialist, drug running criminals, owned by the drug cartels.
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    Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman Katie Waldman said in a statement Monday the current caravan “is what we see day-in and day-out at the border as a result of well-advertised and well-known catch-and-release loopholes.”

    As we have said time and again, until Congress acts, we will continue to have de-facto open borders that guarantee future “caravans” and record numbers of family units entering the country illegally,” Waldman said.
    And that's a fact Jack!

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    President Trump needs to issue an Executive Order that we will NOT accept any applications for asylum at our Ports of Entry!

    They must apply in their home country!

    Every one of them that enters illegally will be processed and deported BY BUS LOADS OR BARGES within 48 hours!

    Their overbreeding misery, no jobs, violence is THEIR Presidents responsibility to resolve not the USA!
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