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    I visited a Texas courtroom where dozens of chained immigrants were prosecuted under

    I visited a Texas courtroom where dozens of chained immigrants were prosecuted under Trump's 'zero tolerance' policy — and it was surreal

    Daniel Brown
    Jun. 24, 2018, 2:36 PM


    At the Department of Justice's Southern Federal District Courthouse in McAllen, Texas, on Friday, five dozen people were sentenced in two hours. Daniel Brown/Business Insider
    • I attended a mass prosecution proceeding in McAllen, Texas, where dozens of immigrants pleaded guilty to crossing the US-Mexico border illegally.
    • Under President Donald Trump's "zero tolerance" policy, everyone caught crossing the border illegally is charged with a federal crime, even if they're seeking asylum.
    • The immigrants were cuffed at the hands and feet and chained at the waist throughout the court hearing. It was a surreal and sobering experience.



    MCALLEN, TEXAS — I counted 62.

    That's how many unauthorized immigrants sat in the five wooden rows of the eighth-floor courtroom of the federal district courthouse in McAllen, Texas, on Friday.

    Charged with the misdemeanor crime of crossing the US border illegally, they were cuffed at the hands and feet and chained at the waist.

    These mass prosecutions have become a daily routine under President Donald Trump's "zero tolerance" policy, which mandates that every single person who crosses the border illegally be charged.

    The policy stoked public outrage after it resulted in the separation of more than 2,300 children from their parents. Trump signed an executive order last week halting those separations.

    US Customs and Border Protection is reportedly no longer referring parents for criminal prosecution if they illegally crossed the border with their children, and the public defender in the courtroom I visited confirmed that none of the immigrants being prosecuted were split from their children.

    The immigrants sporadically fidgeted as they waited for the judge to enter and decide their fate. Their chains created a low, rattling noise in the background that punctuated the two-hour proceeding.
    Their shoelaces had been removed and many of their shoe tongues were folded over where their laces should have been. Their clothes appeared dirty, most likely the same ones they'd worn on their journey to the US.

    I stood on the side, against the tan walls of the courtroom. The defendant closest to me was a young man who looked as if he couldn't have been more than 21 or 22 years old.

    He wore a purple collared shirt dotted with white stains tucked into his CAT blue jeans. His no-name sneakers were black and yellow. His eyes betrayed what seemed to me neither fear, hatred, nor confusion — just pure indifference with a slight twist of disdain.
    "All rise!" the bailiff announced as the judge entered.

    'Each of you did knowingly and unlawfully enter the US'

    Unauthorized immigrants leaving a US federal court in shackles in McAllen on June 11. Getty Images/John MooreWhen the 62 defendants rose, their chains loudly crashed against the wooden benches they had been sitting on in unison.They sat back down, and the loud crash of metal on wood repeated.
    The stocky, white judge had gray hair and wore a black robe over a blue shirt and red tie, and he stood throughout the proceeding in the courtroom's well, between the bench and the defendants.
    He put the defendants under oath, telling them through a translator to rise again and raise their right hands as their chains crashed against the wooden benches.

    The translator sat to the judge's right, softly translating the judge's words into Spanish that filtered into the defendants' headsets, which quietly echoed through the courtroom.

    The 62 defendants' public defender sat beside the translator, and the prosecutors sat on the judge's left. Journalists and bailiffs lined the tan walls behind the defendants.

    "You're here for illegal crossing," the judge told the defendants. "Your attorney has announced that you all want to enter a guilty plea and be prosecuted." The judge asked the defendants whether this was truly what they wanted, warning them that perjury was more serious than the "petty" offense for which they were already charged.

    In rapid fire, he went down the line, pointing and asking each defendant to answer "yes" or "no" to the question. Every defendant answered "sí," and the judge's translator said "yes" each time.
    The young man closest to me in the purple shirt said "sí" forcefully.

    The judge then went down the line again, certifying their name, age, and home country.

    Forty-nine of the defendants were men, and 13 were women. Twenty-nine were from Mexico, nine were from Honduras, 14 were from Guatemala, and 10 were from El Salvador. Their ages ranged from 18 to 63, but most were under 35 years old.

    Most of the older defendants were from Mexico, while the younger ones were from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras — countries that have been ravaged by gang violence in recent years.

    Each of you are aliens, and each of you did knowingly and unlawfully enter the US.
    The young man in the purple shirt closest to me was from El Salvador. His last name was Ventura, and he was 24 years old.

    Going down the line again, the judge asked all of the defendants whether they were under any substances or medications that may affect their judgment. The defendants all said no.
    Ventura said "no" emphatically.

    The judge then explained the charges.

    "Each of you are aliens, and each of you did knowingly and unlawfully enter the US," the judge said, adding that the maximum penalty was six months in jail, a $5,000 fine, and a $10 court assessment fee.

    "Do you understand the charges?" the judge asked. They all said "yes" or "sí."
    Ventura said "yes" and would continue switching back and forth between "sí" and "yes" throughout the rest of the judge's questions.

    The judge calmly — and congenially — continued to explain the defendants' options, saying they could plead not guilty and go to trial. He asked whether any of them had been forced or threatened to plead guilty or had been promised any benefit for pleading guilty and whether they were pleading guilty voluntarily.

    For each of these questions, he again went down the line in quick succession, stopping periodically for a few of the defendants' malfunctioning headsets.

    One woman didn't understand one of the questions, eventually saying she wanted to appeal her case. She was then taken out of the courtroom. There were now 61 defendants.

    The judge asked them whether they understood that once convicted they could be deported and denied entry or citizenship in the future. They all said "sí" or "yes." When the judge asked a 20-year-old woman from Guatemala whose last name was Ramirez this question, she closed her eyes, pressed her lips, and looked down when she answered "sí."

    'Culpable'


    Mass prosecutions have become a daily routine under Trump's "zero tolerance" policy. Getty Images/John MooreThe judge went around again pointing and asking the defendants whether they were guilty or not guilty before stating the date they were accused of crossing illegally. The dates for most were June 20 or June 21, just one or two days before their prosecution.

    As the defendants individually answered "culpable," and the judge's translator ominously said "guilty," a security guard went over to Ventura and told him to sit up.

    Apparently Ventura, holding two white and wrinkled, sealed envelopes, had been slouching.
    Ramirez couldn't stop blinking and swallowing as she awaited her turn, and when the judge reached her, she said "culpable" before her eyes appeared to well up.

    After all of the defendants said "culpable," the judge asked them how they had crossed the river. Most said they had taken a boat or raft across. Three said they had walked across, to which the judge asked how high the water was. The three defendants said chest high.

    Ramirez said she had taken a raft. Ventura said he had taken a boat.

    "I'll accept your guilty pleas," the judge eventually said after his series of questions before telling them more about their rights and that they could contact their country's consulate if they wished.
    "Now I'm going to start sentencing you for this offense of illegal entry," the judge said, explaining that afterward they would be turned over to immigration and be able to seek asylum if they wanted.
    He added: "If some of you have been separated from your families, hopefully you will be reunited."
    "When I call your name, please stand," the judge said. He called their names in groups, and their chains rattled as they stood.

    Their sentences: no additional jail time and a $10 fee

    Many of these defendants said they just wanted to find work, have a better life, or find their family. Getty Images/John MooreThe judge told one group of 17 to stand before asking them whether they wanted to address the court, which none of them did, and then handed down their sentences.The 17 defendants were sentenced to "time already served" and a $10 court assessment fee since they had no criminal history or previous deportations.

    Bailiffs escorted the 17 defendants out, Ventura and Ramirez among them. Waddling like a chain gang, they returned their headsets as they exited.

    The judge told another group of 20 defendants to stand before handing down the same sentence of time already served.

    Then the judge sentenced smaller groups and individual people. Some got sentences ranging from 10 days to 135 days in jail given criminal histories such as assault, driving while intoxicated, and other crimes.

    Many of these defendants, when asked whether they wanted to address the court, told the judge (or their public defender told the judge) that they just wanted to find work, have a better life, or find their family.

    One man said in a shaky voice that he had crossed to find his wife and child, whom he hadn't seen or spoken to in nearly five months. They didn't have a cellphone and he didn't know how to contact them, but he thought they were in Kansas. He was sentenced to 20 days in jail.

    There was confusion over the last defendant's criminal past, and the judge asked to take a recess. He had apparently been previously convicted of domestic assault and pointing a gun at someone.

    I had to leave before the court reconvened, but his fate didn't look good.


    Michelle Mark contributed reporting from New York

    http://www.businessinsider.com/mass-prosecutions-immigrants-prosecuted-under-trump-zero-tolerance-2018-6



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    FILL UP THE STADIUM

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    PUT IN FEDERAL TENT CITY ON FEDERAL LAND FOR 90 DAYS AND DEPORT THEM OUT OF HERE!
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    ONCE AND FOR ALL, WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR SOB STORIES!!!! EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES DOES NOT LIVE LIKE RICH HOLLYWOOD TYPES (THE COASTAL ELITES) OR POLITICIANS. PLENTY OF US HAVE SOB STORIES JUST AS SAD AND TOUCHING AS YOURS ARE, LIKE THE MAN WHO CAME OUT YESTERDAY AND WORKED HARD ALL DAY IN MY YARD IN THE HOT SUN CUTTING DOWN TREES. HE WAS MISSING TEETH AND YOU COULD TELL HE WAS HAVING A HARD TIME EARNING A LIVING DOING ONE OF THE JOBS YOU PEOPLE ARE TAKING FROM US CITIZENS LIKE HIM. OR THE MIDDLE-AGED WOMAN MY DAUGHTER TOLD ME ABOUT WHO WAS TRYING TO GET A MINIMUM WAGE HOUSECLEANING JOB IN A MOTEL. HER SUPERVISOR, AN HISPANIC, CRITICISED HER FOR THE WAY SHE SWEPT. PLEASE - GET OFF OUR BACKS AND TAKE YOUR DAMN SOB STORIES BACK TO WHEREVER YOU CAME FROM!!!!
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    THE JUDGE .
    WAS TO SOFT . HE SHOULD HAVE SHIP THEM BACK HOME THIS IS BS ( TRUMP DO SOME THING )
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    If this is "zero tolerance", I prefer "zero entry" to begin with. Militarize the border. This Presidential candidate in Mexico, Obrador, isn't going take any action against cartels or drugs in Mexico, he will stop all federal actions against them, he also won't do anything to stop illegal immigration or their drugs entering the US, it's his official platform. It looks like he's going to win the election, leading now in the polls at 52%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southBronx View Post
    THE JUDGE .
    WAS TO SOFT . HE SHOULD HAVE SHIP THEM BACK HOME THIS IS BS ( TRUMP DO SOME THING
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    I think the point here is to get them prosecuted so if the return illegally, they'll have the book thrown at them! It's a deterrent to reentry. Also this forces them to do a little time in the lockup to show them what's in store should they decide to return. Of course if they return it could be a year or more vice the days or months they are doing now. With the exception of a couple that want to fight their deportation, they are being sent back home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    I think the point here is to get them prosecuted so if the return illegally, they'll have the book thrown at them! It's a deterrent to reentry. Also this forces them to do a little time in the lockup to show them what's in store should they decide to return. Of course if they return it could be a year or more vice the days or months they are doing now. With the exception of a couple that won't to fight their deportation, they are being sent back home.
    Apparently they are not getting the book thrown at them.
    One invader has been deported 44 times in 15 years.

    How often do we see someone charged with murder and headline reads deported 7 times, deported 5 times?

    How much is it costing the tax payer to just spin our wheels with all these court proceedings, translators, jails, airline flights back?

    Military on the border is the deterrent we need!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    Apparently they are not getting the book thrown at them.
    One invader has been deported 44 times in 15 years.

    How often do we see someone charged with murder and headline reads deported 7 times, deported 5 times?

    How much is it costing the tax payer to just spin our wheels with all these court proceedings, translators, jails, airline flights back?

    Military on the border is the deterrent we need
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    The cases you're talking about were not under the "zero tolerance" policy. That's the kind of thing the "zero tolerance" policy is supposed to fix. Before, the answer was just deportation, deportation, deportation, without prosecution. Didn't matter how many times you entered illegally, you just got deported. That needs to end and that is what the Trump administration is attempting to accomplish through their "zero tolerance" policy. We have to make the illegals understand that there are consequences to their illegal acts and deportation is not a punishment.
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    Article says 17 of the guilty were fined $10 and not sentenced to jail since they had no criminal history though i don't know how the judge knows that. Anyway - that is not much punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Driving Is Deadly View Post
    Article says 17 of the guilty were fined $10 and not sentenced to jail since they had no criminal history though i don't know how the judge knows that.
    I'm sure the authorities did a records check. None of us can know if they had a record in their country, but if they did in this country, their fingerprints would reveal that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Text Driving Is Deadly
    Anyway - that is not much punishment.
    True! But then you can't get blood out of a turnip!

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