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    Quote Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS
    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbstard
    NYC admittedly has over 500,000 (I'm guessing that is a low estimate).
    That's more than the population of Cleveland!
    When they were talking about the DL they said they had at least 1million
    That's the number they 'admit' to for the entire state. I believe both numbers should be multiplied by 1.5.
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    I can hardly believe that FAIR would propagate a number like 13 million.

    My current estimate is between 34 and 35 million, extrapolated from the only actual count of illegal entrants, by unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV's) in the Arizona Border Control Initiative during the summer of 2004.
    One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.

    Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
    tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.

    The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC
    I can hardly believe that FAIR would propagate a number like 13 million.

    My current estimate is between 34 and 35 million. This is based upon the only actual count of illegal entrants, by unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV's) in the Arizona Border Control Initiative during the summer of 2004.
    Thats my estimate, it has stayed the same number for more than 6 years!! HELLLOO we are not that stupid, they know they throw that number out there and more people are going to be mad as hell!
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    Illegal Immigration Counters
    This site has a counter on it--can't varify the accuracy but is interesting.

    Example: Money Wired to Mexico Since Jan 2006 $41,293,562,042 and counting.

    http://immigrationcounters.com/

    It features numbers on and dollars costs associated with:
    1. Illegal Immigrants in Country
    2. OTM Illegals In Country
    3. Money Wired to Mexico Since Jan 2006
    4. Money Wired to Latin America Since '01
    5. Cost of Social Services for Illegal Immigrants Since 1996
    6. Children of Illegals in Public Schools
    7. Cost of Illegals in K-12 Since 1996
    8. Illegal Immigrants Incarcerated
    9. Cost of Incarcerations Since 2001
    10. Illegal Immigrant Fugitives
    11. Anchor Babies Since 2002
    10. Skilled Jobs Taken by Illegal Immigrants

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    Accidently posted it twice...sorry. Had gotten message with original post about couldn't post a topic so soon so assumed it didn't go through.


    What are OTM Illegals In Country ?
    "Distrust and caution are the parents of security."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyAmerica
    Accidently posted it twice...sorry. Had gotten message with original post about couldn't post a topic so soon so assumed it didn't go through.


    What are OTM Illegals In Country ?
    Done the same thing my self!!

    OTM'S "Other than Mexicans!"
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    A double thank you SOSADFORUS.

    Let us never forget that government is ourselves and not an alien power over us. The ultimate rulers of our democracy are not a President and senators and congressmen and government officials, but the voters of this country.
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    Redbadger -Anyone living in Texas could tell you that is So Very True....and jumped like Double after Waco2005

    What about Waco 2005?
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    Thank You MyAmerica! What a great link!
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    Most welcome Ratbstard. I think the numbers are staggering!!!

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