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Illegal-immigration answer starts in Mexico, Biden says
• REGISTER STAFF WRITER •
December 3, 2007
By ABBY SIMON Sasimons@dmreg.com

desmoinesregister.com






Delaware Sen. Joe Biden passionately declared Sunday that the key solution to illegal immigration begins with Mexican government officials who must expand their economies to provide good jobs for those living south of the border.

"They're being irresponsible. This is the second-wealthiest nation in the hemisphere - we're not talking about Sierra Leone," the Democratic presidential candidate said. "This is a dysfunctional society."

Biden said that illegal immigration will continue, no matter how high the border fence.


He discussed the issue during a question-and-answer session with members of A Mid-Iowa Organizing Strategy. The nonpartisan community organization includes 30 central Iowa churches that promote discourse on issues such as health care and education. Biden is the second presidential candidate invited to speak with the group, after Illinois Sen. Barack Obama in October.

Biden noted that the issue of illegal immigration involves not only people coming across the Mexican border but also those from many countries who overstay their visas.

He said a constructive solution includes giving those in the country illegally a period to come forward and subject themselves to criminal background checks and prove they are paying taxes before earning citizenship within 10 years.

The answer was somewhat insufficient to retired teacher Judy Lonning of Des Moines, who asked Biden whether free-trade policies such as the North American Free Trade Agreement contribute to illegal immigration by driving people out of their countries as a result of a devastated economy. Biden responded in part by talking about tainted toys currently shipped to the United States from China.

"He didn't really answer my question, He didn't address NAFTA with substance, and he also switched over to defective products," said Lonning, 65.

Although she remains undecided, Lonning said she likely won't caucus for Biden.

A new Des Moines Register poll shows Biden in fifth place at 6 percent of support among likely caucsgoers.

Biden campaign manager Luis Navarro said television ads planned for this month are expected to garner support.

"As we come into the last 30 days here, look (at what) has historically happened, the top two or three candidates are going to start throwing some serious elbows," he said. "We believe that other candidates can take advantage of whatever collateral damage occurs as a result."

An estimated 300 people overflowed Cooney's Tavern in Beaverdale later Sunday, where Biden delivered a speech while standing on several cases of Bud Light.

Biden took questions from the crowd, several of which were of Irish descent, regarding his Catholic faith and abortion. Biden said he is against partial-birth abortion, but pledged to defend Roe v. Wade.

Mike Chenchar, 52, of West Des Moines, a registered independent, said he may caucus for Biden, if only based on recent debate performances.

"He's the most honest and most experienced by far, and he has the most respect of his opponents by far. I think he's the man for the job," Chenchar said.

Hi Greg,

Sen. Joe Biden passionately declared Sunday that the key solution to illegal immigration begins with Mexican government officials who must expand their economies to provide good jobs for those living south of the border.

That may be, Senator, but it won't happen, Mexicans export poverty. The key solution begins with the exposure of corrupt U.S. senators and congressmen who receive bribes from the Mexican drug cartels, and from the body shops of Bangalore, India.

Stop lying to the public, Senator!

Originally Posted by Coto

Hi Greg,

Sen. Joe Biden passionately declared Sunday that the key solution to illegal immigration begins with Mexican government officials who must expand their economies to provide good jobs for those living south of the border.

That may be, Senator, but it won't happen, Mexicans export poverty. The key solution begins with the exposure of corrupt U.S. senators and congressmen who receive bribes from the Mexican drug cartels, and from the body shops of Bangalore, India.

Stop lying to the public, Senator!

Good morning
Ive seen what the mexican goverment and the mexican law makers are doing and the corruption that goes hand in hand with our goverment law makers. these problems cant be solve when both sides lie cheat and steal and then put the blame every were but where it belongs. I think the last place we need to start is with that Goverment...


Happy Monday

The problem actually exists more with family, friends and wealthy immigrants who are financing illegal immigration instead of investing in small businesses and farms in the communities they came from. There is an attitude that until the government of the country they came from cures all of their old country's problems it makes no sense to do anything at all for them there. It is still possible for them to begin small and to bring on change by increments. It would be a nice start for people and politicians to take note of this.


NAFTA resulted in American grown yellow corn getting exported and sold as animal feed down in the Mexican livestock industry and large Mexican yellow corn farmers
switching to white corn which the Mexicans consume as food. Mexican Villages previously involved in sale of their white corn to their food industry lost their market. They could have started activity adding higher value to their corn at the village locations but with an open border it was easier to come here.

Good morning, Richard,

Ah yes, thank you. All the while, Congressman Lamar Smith preaches to constituents that NAFTA and CAFTA create more jobs than are destroyed. Looks to me like jobs are created for illegal alien farm workers on US farms that grow that corn (among other things).

Coto

Biden said that illegal immigration will continue, no matter how high the border fence.

Obviously he is purposely ignoring the fact that Duncan's fence in S CAL cut illegal immigration in that area by 90% and crime by 53% in the San Diego area. Build a fence Duncan Hunter style across the whole southern border and we will see an 80% drop (my estimate) in illegal alien and drug importation. Then we can concentrate on the northern border.

DUNCAN HUNTER HAS MY VOTE