Thread: Illegals found to pay $400 million in taxes

Well, if illegals pay so much taxes California ought to be in great shape. How can anyone even begin to estimate what 'people living in the shadows' pay in taxes?
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Illegals found to pay $400 million in taxes


February 15, 2008


By Dena Potter - RICHMOND (AP) — Illegal aliens contribute an estimated $400 million to Virginia's economy annually in taxes, according to a study released yesterday by a group hoping to counter some illegal-alien criticism in the legislature.

The Commonwealth Institute for Fiscal Analysis estimates that illegal aliens contribute between $379 million and $453 million a year in income, sales, property and other taxes.

"Some of the strongest voices against immigration in Virginia have characterized undocumented immigrants as takers, as people who do not contribute to our state and to our community. This research clearly demonstrates that they are wrong," said Michael Cassidy, executive director of the organization.

The study recognizes there is no way to calculate exactly how much illegal aliens pay in taxes.

It uses figures from a 2005 Pew Hispanic Center study that estimates there are 250,000 to 300,000 illegal aliens in Virginia. The center estimates that Virginia's at least 109,000 undocumented households earn an average of $27,400 annually, resulting in about $3 billion in income.

"Like all other workers in our state, they spend that money," Mr. Cassidy said. "And like most low-wage workers, they spend almost all of that money."

Mr. Cassidy said the study accounted for about $4,000 each year that would be sent back to the alien's home country and not put back into the economy.

The study estimated that about half of the illegal-alien workers paid income taxes, meaning they and their employers also contributed to Social Security and Medicare, benefits they are ineligible to receive.

The study was not enough to convince some legislators that undocumented aliens contribute to society.

"Most of them are here to take what they can, send it home and not assimilate and not do what immigrants for the last 200 years have done in this country by coming here and wanting to become Americans," said Republican Delegate Jeffrey M. Frederick of Prince William, where the local government has taken strides to crack down on illegal aliens.

"They want to come here and take what they can and send it home and leave when they can — take billions of dollars out of our economy and send it to Central and South America," he said.

Mr. Frederick authored at least five bills against illegal aliens.

Out of more than 100 bills filed in the House, measures succeeded that would prohibit illegal aliens from attending public colleges and universities, deny bail for and report to federal authorities those in the country illegally who commit crimes, require businesses to lose their licenses if the owners are convicted of hiring illegal aliens, and require the governor to enter into an agreement with federal immigration officials to enforce illegal-alien laws.

The Senate has been less receptive to legislation against illegal aliens.

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RIGHT 400 MILLION. DO THE MATH. 109 THOUSAND ILLEGALS. HOW MUCH TAX IS THAT FOR EACH ONE? ISNT THAT LIKE 5000 BUCKS PER IMMIGRANT? DONT THINK THEY PAY THAT AT THE PAY LEVEL THEY GET. AND THEN MINUS THE SOCIAL SERVICES THEY RECEIVE....MEDICAL FOR FREE. OH WAIT MAYBE ITS LIKE 4000 EACH. ITS EARLY. I THINK ITS 4000 EACH. BUT THAT IS WHAT THEY PAY AFTER SOCIAL SERVICES? DONT THINK SO. WITH ALL THE KIDS THEY HAVE THAT NEED MEDICAL AND EDUCATION? DONT FORGET THE COST OF INCARCERATION. WIC PROGRAMS YADA YADA.

Most of these illegals now file tax returns using the ITIN given by the IRS. I bet they claim lots of illegal kids as exemptions and get all the income tax refunded.

Where do these "estimates" come from?

Yea- they pay 400 million in taxes via fradulent SS numbers.

What the article doesn't tell you is the illegal invader costs the state of Virginia over 500 million plus in educational, medical, welfare, incarceration costs , etc. Not to mention the social decay that typically follows these people. How much is that worth

So they pay four dollars and take back five. And we as American Citizens are supposed to be grateful over this arrangement because?

Perhaps dena potter can write an article explaining that side of the story. That's if she has any journalistic integrety or honesty left over after crying over her beloved illegal invaders.

DON'T LET THAT HEADLINE FOOL YOU. IT DEPENDS ON THE STATE!

The CBO (Congressional Budget Office) did a study on taxes vs expenses of the illegal aliens in December 2007. See here for the full study (pdf file):

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8711 ... ration.pdf

In a nutshell, it concluded that overall, illegals get more in services than they pay in taxes, especially in the areas of education, healthcare and law enforcement.

The CBO also said that the impact is different (some less, some more) in all the states, depending on the population of illegals in those states. CA, of course, is spending more than it is taking in. This is why VA is probably not, coz it does not have as big a population of illegals as CA.

The CBO also said that the impact is different (some less, some more) in all the states, depending on the population of illegals in those states. CA, of course, is spending more than it is taking in. This is why VA is probably not, coz it does not have as big a population of illegals as CA.

Of course the impact is more or less depending on illegal populations.

However, based upon this article, we have no way of knowing what Virginia pays out in the way of social services to illegals because the writer has chosen to completely ignore that fact.

If Virginia actually took in more than it's spending on illegals then I'm quite certain the writer would have included those numbers as well.

Illegal invader expenditures should have been included if for nothing else, to lessen the perception of bias.

I would like to see a list of accidents by uninsured illegals. What is the collataral damage in lost propery, lives, and disabilities to people?? The 400 million is about $1600 per person. That's one trip to the emergency room. One child's education is over 5X that amount. How many babies were born at taxpayer expense? I'm sick of reading this drivel. It's a documented fact that low-income workers costs more in social services than they contribute in general. That was never even an argument when black and white workers were discussed, but all of a sudden illegal aliens are putting in more money than they are taking out! Garbage!

What a pack of lies!!!

Other things that never get mentioned

Loss of natural resources , water , power grid over use

infrastructure overuse , roads , bridges , distruction of national parks
wildlife areas

It doesn't take a math genus to figure out how many tons of
pollution and trash accumulate over 1 year for 20 million illegals

Its mind boggling