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    Immigration deal faces tough road

    Immigration deal faces tough road
    By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, Associated Press Writer
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    WASHINGTON - A bipartisan immigration deal that would grant legal status to millions of people in the country unlawfully is drawing criticism from across the political spectrum.


    The bargain reached between key Democratic and Republican senators and the White House faces an uncertain future in the Senate, which is set to begin debating it Monday.

    "I don't know if the immigration legislation is going to bear fruit and we're going to be able to pass it," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record), D-Nev., who harbored "serious concerns" about the deal.

    Even if it were to survive what's certain to be a searing Senate battle, the measure would be up against long odds in the House. Speaker Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., acknowledging deep divisions on immigration among Democrats, says she won't bring it up unless President Bush can guarantee he will produce 70 Republican backers — a tall order given GOP concerns that the bill is too lenient.

    The agreement, which also mandates tougher border security and workplace enforcement, marked an extraordinary marriage of liberal and conservative goals that has the potential to bridge stubborn divides and ensure enactment of new laws this year.

    Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., his party's lead negotiator on the deal, called it an example of the "politics of the possible," while conservative Sen. Jon Kyl (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz., said it was the "best opportunity" for a bipartisan solution to the nation's immigration problems.

    It was soon under attack, however, from a set of lawmakers and interest groups as diverse as those that united to craft it. Their varying concerns and competing agendas — along with a challenging political environment — could be enough to unravel the painstakingly written agreement.

    Two of the key players in the talks from each end of the political spectrum, Sen. Robert Menendez (news, bio, voting record), D-N.J., and Sen. John Cornyn (news, bio, voting record), R-Texas, walked away from the deal before it was announced.

    Conservatives branded it "amnesty," complaining that it would reward the nation's estimated 12 million illegal immigrants with a way of gaining legal status and staying in the U.S. permanently without being punished.

    "What part of illegal does the Senate not understand? Any plan that rewards illegal behavior is amnesty," said Rep. Brian Bilbray (news, bio, voting record), R-Calif., chairman of the Immigration Reform Caucus.

    The deal would allow illegal immigrants to come forward right away, but they could not get visas or begin a path to citizenship until the border security improvements and a high-tech worker identification program were in place.

    After that, illegal immigrants could obtain a renewable "Z visa" that would allow them stay in the country indefinitely. After paying fees and fines totaling $5,000, they could ultimately get on track for permanent residency, which could take between eight and 13 years. Heads of households would have to return to their home countries first.

    Liberals, on the other hand, are unhappy with the proposal because it makes a far-reaching change in the immigration system that would admit future arrivals seeking to put down roots in the U.S. based on their skills, education levels and job experience — limiting the importance of family ties.

    "We have concerns about the historic shift away from family unification as the backbone of our immigration system," said Kevin Appleby of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

    Immigrant advocacy and labor groups also oppose the terms of a new guest worker program in which low-skilled immigrants would be forced to leave the country after temporary stints and would have limited opportunities to stay and get on a path to permanent legalization.

    "Without a real path to legalization, the program will exclude millions of workers and thus ensure that America will have two classes of workers, only one of which can exercise workplace rights," said John J. Sweeney, the AFL-CIO president.

    Sen. Byron Dorgan (news, bio, voting record), D-N.D., announced Thursday that he will move to kill the guest worker program because it would hurt American workers.

    Many liberal groups, which revere Kennedy as his party's decisive voice on immigration, reserved judgment on the deal, calling it a good starting point and holding out hope of improving it during next week's Senate debate. But they also voiced substantial worries.

    Jorge Mursuli of People For the American Way said the measure "departs radically from America's immigration tradition of putting family reunification first. This bill also includes a future worker program that is destined for failure." Mursuli nonetheless called the plan a "solid start."

    Presidential politics could also complicate the deal's chances. Fissures among the candidates started emerging swiftly after it was announced.

    Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz., who helped shape the deal, called it "long overdue." However, Mitt Romney said it was the "wrong approach," which provided "a form of amnesty" to illegal immigrants. Fred Thompson, who is considering entering the race, said it should be scrapped in favor of a measure to secure the border.

    Democratic Sen. Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record), D-Ill., who is seeking his party's presidential nomination, said the proposal needed more work. "We need to fix our immigration system, but we should not replace one dysfunctional, broken system with another equally troubled system," Obama said.

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    Thanks, CharlesOakIsland, for the ray of hope; I was about to lose my cool to the point of getting myself banned from ALIPAC.

    What part of "We don't owe our jobs to India" are you unable to understand, Senator?

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    I wonder how much money was passed around to get the backing for it?

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    thank God the fog is starting to clear. The slapping on the back is done. I saw a picture of Luiz Guitterez/Illinois Rep with a huge smile on his face -to soon to celebrate Luiz.

    Americans are furious...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coto
    Thanks, CharlesOakIsland, for the ray of hope; I was about to lose my cool to the point of getting myself banned from ALIPAC.
    hang in there is not over yet by a long shot.
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    I find it interesting that the two people most interviewed as the spokesmen for this is Chertov and Gutierrez.
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    Two of the key players in the talks from each end of the political spectrum, Sen. Robert Menendez (news, bio, voting record), D-N.J., and Sen. John Cornyn (news, bio, voting record), R-Texas, walked away from the deal before it was announced.
    Great!

    Sen. Byron Dorgan (news, bio, voting record), D-N.D., announced Thursday that he will move to kill the guest worker program because it would hurt American workers.
    Great!

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    everything I am hearing on the news this morning amounts to "This boat won't float"
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    Chertov is such a lapdog, I wonder if he can think for himself.
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    I wonder if the Dems told Kyle that if he sold us out the Dems would fund the troops.Just a thought.How broken is our Gov? Its become pathetic.

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