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    Immigration Measure Faces Test In Senate, Rival Bill In House

    Immigration Measure Faces Test In Senate, Rival Bill In House

    by David Welna
    May 29, 2013 2:56 AM

    Members of Congress are back in their home states this week for a Memorial Day recess. It's a chance to talk with constituents about what could become the year's biggest legislative story: the push on Capitol Hill to fix what Democrats and Republicans alike agree is a broken immigration system.

    A bill proposed by the Gang of Eight, a bipartisan group of senators, to revamp the nation's immigration rules passed out of committee last week and will soon be brought before the Democratic-led Senate. Less clear, though, is where the issue is headed in the GOP-controlled House.

    A Senate Truce

    The Senate chamber lately has become an even more partisan battlefield than usual, with verbal fights breaking out daily over stalled presidential nominations and a budget stuck in limbo. Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., is threatening to rewrite the Senate's filibuster rules to break the logjam.

    That would infuriate the Republican minority and possibly doom any chance of bipartisan cooperation. But Reid says he's putting all that off until the Senate finishes the immigration overhaul — the one thing Democrats and Republicans do seem able to work on together.

    "I'm going to do nothing to interfere with immigration," Reid says. "It is important for our country, and I admire the bipartisan nature of what happened with the Gang of Eight. It's exemplary of what we should do around here on everything."

    But fierce opponents of the immigration bill's promised path to citizenship for 11 million unauthorized immigrants are preparing a series of poison-pill amendments. Leading that effort is Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., whose amendments almost all failed in committee.

    "I think they would have a considerably better chance of passing on the floor than in the Judiciary Committee," Sessions says.

    It's All Politics

    Fears Of Killing Immigration Bill Doomed Same-Sex Amendment

    One amendment that had been proposed by Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., may not be brought up. It would give gay Americans the same right as everyone else to sponsor foreign-born spouses for green cards. Democrats fear it could prove as divisive in the full Senate as it did in the Judiciary Committee, where ultimately it was withheld.

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., is a strong supporter of gay rights, but she says she does not want that amendment revived.

    "I want to see an immigration bill," she says. "We will lose all kinds of Republican votes if that's in the bill."

    The House's Will

    Gang of Eight leader Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., says he thinks many Republicans eager to improve their party's standing with Latino voters want to back his group's bill.

    "My hope would be we could pass the Senate bill with a large number of votes, and the House would take it up," he says.

    But House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, insists his chamber won't simply take up and pass whatever the Senate sends over.

    "The House is going to work its will on immigration," he says. "We're not going to be stampeded by the White House or stampeded by the president. The Senate is working its will — a lot of good work that's gone on over there — but the House will work its will. Don't ask me how because if I knew, I'd certainly tell you."

    One option would be to consider a series of more conservative immigration measures being worked up by the House Judiciary Committee. But the House also has its own bipartisan group of eight trying to forge comprehensive immigration legislation.

    One of its members is California's Xavier Becerra, the House's fourth-ranking Democrat.

    "The Senate's proved that you can come up with a bipartisan deal, and I think in the House we're going to do the same thing," Becerra says. "We're going to prove that you can come up with a bipartisan deal. [It] may look a little different than the Senate."

    That may be an understatement.

    "It's a very different bill than the Senate bill," says Rep. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho, another member of the House's group of eight. One big difference, he notes, is how his group's yet-to-be-released proposal deals with the 11 million immigrants in the United States illegally.

    "There is not a special pathway to citizenship, but anybody who can be legalized has an ability to become a citizen of the United States," Labrador says.

    Looking Ahead

    Labrador says the group has finally settled its differences and hopes to have a bill others can look at soon. But Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., doubts such legislation would remain intact.

    "What I'm concerned about is the amendments that'll be tacked on to any piece of legislation that comes out of the House," Grijalva says. "Not only poison pills, but things that'll derail, break it up into pieces — all as part of a stalling and delaying tactic."

    It would be much better, Grijalva says, if the House simply took up the Senate's immigration bill. Fellow Arizonan John McCain, a Republican member of the Gang of Eight senators, agrees.

    "I'm still optimistic we will get this through the House and Senate," McCain says.

    Just how that would happen, though, no one can say.

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    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


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    Immigration Measure Faces Test In Senate, Rival Bill In House

    by David Welna
    May 29, 2013 2:56 AM

    Members of Congress are back in their home states this week for a Memorial Day recess. It's a chance to talk with constituents about what could become the year's biggest legislative story: the push on Capitol Hill to fix what Democrats and Republicans alike agree is a broken immigration system.

    A bill proposed by the Gang of Eight, a bipartisan group of senators, to revamp the nation's immigration rules passed out of committee last week and will soon be brought before the Democratic-led Senate. Less clear, though, is where the issue is headed in the GOP-controlled House.

    A Senate Truce

    The Senate chamber lately has become an even more partisan battlefield than usual, with verbal fights breaking out daily over stalled presidential nominations and a budget stuck in limbo. Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., is threatening to rewrite the Senate's filibuster rules to break the logjam.

    That would infuriate the Republican minority and possibly doom any chance of bipartisan cooperation. But Reid says he's putting all that off until the Senate finishes the immigration overhaul — the one thing Democrats and Republicans do seem able to work on together.

    "I'm going to do nothing to interfere with immigration," Reid says. "It is important for our country, and I admire the bipartisan nature of what happened with the Gang of Eight. It's exemplary of what we should do around here on everything."

    But fierce opponents of the immigration bill's promised path to citizenship for 11 million unauthorized immigrants are preparing a series of poison-pill amendments. Leading that effort is Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., whose amendments almost all failed in committee.

    "I think they would have a considerably better chance of passing on the floor than in the Judiciary Committee," Sessions says.

    It's All Politics

    Fears Of Killing Immigration Bill Doomed Same-Sex Amendment

    One amendment that had been proposed by Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., may not be brought up. It would give gay Americans the same right as everyone else to sponsor foreign-born spouses for green cards. Democrats fear it could prove as divisive in the full Senate as it did in the Judiciary Committee, where ultimately it was withheld.

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., is a strong supporter of gay rights, but she says she does not want that amendment revived.

    "I want to see an immigration bill," she says. "We will lose all kinds of Republican votes if that's in the bill."

    The House's Will

    Gang of Eight leader Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., says he thinks many Republicans eager to improve their party's standing with Latino voters want to back his group's bill.

    "My hope would be we could pass the Senate bill with a large number of votes, and the House would take it up," he says.

    But House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, insists his chamber won't simply take up and pass whatever the Senate sends over.

    "The House is going to work its will on immigration," he says. "We're not going to be stampeded by the White House or stampeded by the president. The Senate is working its will — a lot of good work that's gone on over there — but the House will work its will. Don't ask me how because if I knew, I'd certainly tell you."

    One option would be to consider a series of more conservative immigration measures being worked up by the House Judiciary Committee. But the House also has its own bipartisan group of eight trying to forge comprehensive immigration legislation.

    One of its members is California's Xavier Becerra, the House's fourth-ranking Democrat.

    "The Senate's proved that you can come up with a bipartisan deal, and I think in the House we're going to do the same thing," Becerra says. "We're going to prove that you can come up with a bipartisan deal. [It] may look a little different than the Senate."

    That may be an understatement.

    "It's a very different bill than the Senate bill," says Rep. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho, another member of the House's group of eight. One big difference, he notes, is how his group's yet-to-be-released proposal deals with the 11 million immigrants in the United States illegally.

    "There is not a special pathway to citizenship, but anybody who can be legalized has an ability to become a citizen of the United States," Labrador says.

    Looking Ahead

    Labrador says the group has finally settled its differences and hopes to have a bill others can look at soon. But Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., doubts such legislation would remain intact.

    "What I'm concerned about is the amendments that'll be tacked on to any piece of legislation that comes out of the House," Grijalva says. "Not only poison pills, but things that'll derail, break it up into pieces — all as part of a stalling and delaying tactic."

    It would be much better, Grijalva says, if the House simply took up the Senate's immigration bill. Fellow Arizonan John McCain, a Republican member of the Gang of Eight senators, agrees.

    "I'm still optimistic we will get this through the House and Senate," McCain says.

    Just how that would happen, though, no one can say.

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolit...-bill-in-house
    To all gov & Senate
    don't the American have any say in this about the illegal Immigrants .
    they don't have your jobs . but they all have our jobs . so you don't have to worry . about
    your food or your rent or the next car payment do you .
    you all are just jumping up & down about the bill . about the illegal immigrants . they should not get any help at all
    Obama just want them in for the vote that all . & you all jump . I say the American
    should have some say about this ?
    I sick of all the BS about the illegal Immigrants it not only Mexico it all the other country that worry us
    the gov don't check the Border at all . they are Like aRoach . they are in every state & every country
    I say obama has to go .

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