Thread: The Newest Change Propaganda-Birth of Jesus & Illegals

Jesus, Refugee

by Dave Bennion

Published December 25, 2008 @ 09:32PM PST

I'm not a person of faith. In fact, I'm a confirmed atheist. But I was raised in a very religious family, in a very religious community. And I've found over the years since I left religious life that some scriptural stories still hold a certain narrative power for me that I suspect they may never lose.

The stories of Jesus' birth fall into that category.

Jesus' mother traveled a great distance to give birth to him in a strange place, where she and her child were not welcome.

Soon afterwards, Mary and Joseph were forced to flee with their infant son into Egypt to escape King Herod's soldiers, who were trying to find and kill Jesus on account of the prophecies that foretold his coming. Herod felt Jesus would pose a political threat to him.

Jesus was a refugee.

He and his family were persecuted for their imputed political opinion, their ethnicity and religion, or all three. Jesus, then, would have had a lot in common with some of the asylum-seekers currently awaiting deportation in jails around the United States.

I'd like to think the stories his parents told him of his experiences as a child would have had some impact on his teachings later in life. As one who had been rejected by his government and chased from his homeland, he would have special insight into the life of the refugee, the migrant, the prisoner.

I like to think about this when I read Matthew 25:34-40:

Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

http:// immigration. change.org/blog/view/jesus_refugee

I love this comment by Luis Ramos at the end of the story:

Wow. An atheist using a religious figure to get everyone to support illegal immigration.

In those days of Jesus, people wandered across the world not requiring to have visas. But times have changed since then and if this writer does not understand that, I recommend he gets his nose out of the Bible and start looking at the situation of his own countrymen in today's world, and apply Bible lessons to rectify the problems instead of promoting violation of the laws so that more of his countrymen suffer.

The parable does not address illegal aliens it addresses refugees

Originally Posted by Dave Bennion

...Jesus' mother traveled a great distance to give birth to him in a strange place, where she and her child were not welcome....

Poo-Poo. They may have been unwelcome but last I heard, Mary & Joseph were required to be in Bethlehem to pay their taxes.

I always understood they went to be counted in the census

and I don't care why they went there it was Jesus for gawd sakes, son of GOD how dare anyone compare themselves or there issue with that of Jesus...YOU DO NOT COMPARE YOUR SELF OR YOUR LAWBREAKING WITH THAT OF OUR "LORD JESUS CHRIST"

OR

The "Civil Rights Movement" They did not come here illegally!!

Great point, Richard, but everyone in those days that left and moved to another community or out of the way of the oppressors was a refugee. What irritates me most is that the world is a complex of laws these days, and refugee status is being interpreted as nothing in the Bible, but as a right to escape from the lack of personal gain. Those that come here illegally are out for nothing more than sucking off our generosity toward fellow human beings. Refugee status does not even begin to apply to these people.

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

I always understood they went to be counted in the census

and I don't care why they went there it was Jesus for gawd sakes, son of GOD how dare anyone compare themselves or there issue with that of Jesus...YOU DO NOT COMPARE YOUR SELF OR YOUR LAWBREAKING WITH THAT OF OUR "LORD JESUS CHRIST"

OR

The "Civil Rights Movement" They did not come here illegally!!

Two great points. From what little I learned, I'd forgotten they also went to serve the census. And your second great point is one I wish I'd thought of. These creeps have some chutzpah, comparing themselves to the Saviour.

Ya Tom they are always looking for something we will accept that will make their actions ok ....well it is not ok, they are hurting Americans, I am Ok with helping them in their own country but they need to help themselves in their own country, NOT help themselves to our country and help themselves to our tax money like we owe it and our jobs to them. WE DON'T OWE THEM ANYTHING!

Jesus' mother traveled a great distance to give birth to him in a strange place, where she and her child were not welcome. She traveled a great distance to pay taxes and participate in the census, NOT to find a barn to give birth in. Hotels were full, how does that translate into "unwelcome"?

Soon afterwards, Mary and Joseph were forced to flee with their infant son into Egypt to escape King Herod's soldiers, who were trying to find and kill Jesus on account of the prophecies that foretold his coming. Herod felt Jesus would pose a political threat to him. HUGE difference between murder and deportation, wouldn't you say?

Jesus was a refugee.

He and his family were persecuted for their imputed political opinion, their ethnicity and religion, or all three. Jesus, then, would have had a lot in common with some of the asylum-seekers currently awaiting deportation in jails around the United States.

Jesus was a refugee escaping a certain death, illegal aliens are NOT refugees, nor do they qualify for asylum.

Ahh grasping at any straws they can, these OBLers again show lack of intelligence.

I wish we could teleport Dave Bennion back to year O so he could help refugee Jesus. Otherwise he is writting nonsense, it has nothing to do with today.