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    Lawyers in a how-to video: as in how to avoid hiring an Amer

    Watch the video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If this does not make your blood boil I don't know what will! We need to let Cohen & Grigsby know what traitors and scum they are!




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    Lawyers in a how-to video: as in how to avoid hiring an American

    Submitted by Paul McNamara on Tue, 06/19/2007 - 9:18am.

    Watch this video and keep it in mind the next time you hear a high-tech industry titan such as Bill Gates complain that he simply cannot find qualified American employees and therefore the country needs more H-1B visas: You'll see a panel discussion that looks like a sit-down with "the families" on The Sopranos, only instead of talking about organized crime these lawyers are discussing the ins and outs of helping employers side-step immigration law.

    The objective, says Lawrence Lebowitz, vice president of marketing at Cohen & Grigsby, couldn't be more straightforward.

    "Our goal is clearly not to find a qualified U.S. worker ... our objective is to get this person a green card," Lebowitz tells his audience.

    And how does an employer go about doing that in light of the legal obligation to first search for a qualified American? It's all about where you search, he says.

    "Clearly we are not going to find a place where the applicants are most numerous, we're going to find a place where - again we're complying with the law - and hoping and likely not to find qualified worker applicants," Lebowitz says.

    And if despite looking in all the wrong places a gem of an American candidate pops up anyway?

    "If someone looks like they are very qualified, if necessary schedule an interview; go through the whole process to find a legal basis to disqualify them," he says.

    That's just a taste; there are lots more.

    Lebowitz prefaced that first remark - the one about the objective being "not to find a qualified U.S. worker" - by saying, "this may sound funny."

    Don't know about anyone else, but I didn't even crack a smile. It doesn't sound funny. It sounds like it ought to be illegal. At the very least, it sounds like Congress should be tightening the screws on current law before increasing the number of H-1Bs.
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    Similar tricks are used all over the labor spectrum, or else how would we have ICE raids finding dozens of illegals instead of Americans at work?
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    To anyone that has logged any significant amount of time in the IT realm in the last 10 years or so, this should not be a surprise to anyone...

    The fact that (well paid?) lawyers are doing the slave-bidding for large multinationals - and in so doing, undermining the livelihoods of their fellow citizens - makes this writer think that maybe this firm's law license should be pulled...

    The only true benefactors of the systematic dismemberment of America's middle class are large, corporate private interests - multinationals primarily. As many people have warned in the last 20-25 years or so, the fundamental challenge to the country is NOT likely to be the advance of socialism, the USSR, or competing ideologies, etc. It is in rise of the transnational organization(s) - primarily, global corporations. Corporations that owe no allegiance to any one state, government, history, or protocol in doing business. The almighty bottom-line (dollar) will be the one and possibly ONLY criterion in making business decisions.

    Bingo! - we may have arrived.
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    I wonder if the lawyers in this law firm are equally versed in EEOC law - especially, National Origin discrimination ? (which, BTW, INCLUDES the US)
    taken straight from the EEOC web site:

    http://www.eeoc.gov/origin/index.html


    "National Origin Discrimination

    Whether an employee or job applicant's ancestry is Mexican, Ukrainian, Filipino, Arab, American Indian, or any other nationality, he or she is entitled to the same employment opportunities as anyone else. EEOC enforces the federal prohibition against national origin discrimination in employment under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which covers employers with fifteen (15) or more employees.
    About National Origin Discrimination

    National origin discrimination means treating someone less favorably because he or she comes from a particular place, because of his or her ethnicity or accent, or because it is believed that he or she has a particular ethnic background. National origin discrimination also means treating someone less favorably at work because of marriage or other association with someone of a particular nationality. Examples of violations covered under Title VII include:

    * Employment Decisions
    Title VII prohibits any employment decision, including recruitment, hiring, and firing or layoffs, based on national origin.
    * Harassment
    Title VII prohibits offensive conduct, such as ethnic slurs, that creates a hostile work environment based on national origin. Employers are required to take appropriate steps to prevent and correct unlawful harassment. Likewise, employees are responsible for reporting harassment at an early stage to prevent its escalation.
    * Language
    o Accent discrimination
    An employer may not base a decision on an employee's foreign accent unless the accent materially interferes with job performance.
    o English fluency
    A fluency requirement is only permissible if required for the effective performance of the position for which it is imposed.
    o English-only rules
    English-only rules must be adopted for nondiscriminatory reasons. An English-only rule may be used if it is needed to promote the safe or efficient operation of the employer's business.

    Coverage of foreign nationals

    Title VII and the other antidiscrimination laws prohibit discrimination against individuals employed in the United States, regardless of citizenship. However, relief may be limited if an individual does not have work authorization.
    Statistics

    In Fiscal Year 2006, EEOC received 8,327 charges of national origin discrimination. Including charges from previous years, 8,181 charges were resolved, and monetary benefits for charging parties totaled $21.2 million (not including monetary benefits obtained through litigation).

    * Charge statistics"
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    Years ago we were discussing the fake ads, like they'd been written from someone's CV and then embellished to look impossible to match. We have suspected this practice since at least '00.
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    How about sending it to Lou Dobbs....

    http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
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    Thanks chairman.

    I'm pretty sure Dobbs + crew have been pretty good about covering all the scams in the importation of foreign labor - especially the H1b chaos...

    But... I like the idea and I'll send it along just in case they haven't already covered this particular case.
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    Someone already did, and he's already shown it according to another board I'm on.
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    Scumbags...anti American scum...I think sending this to Lou is a great idea...hope he shows it every day
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    Thanks Betsy - I know you're 'all over' the subject matter (much better than I)
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