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    Many in California against invader driver's licenses

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    Many in state against immigrant driver's licenses

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    A Mexican immigrant living in Kings Beach without legal documentation has many burdens, including the inability to obtain a California driver's license. If she wants to take her children to the doctor or make a trip to the grocery store, she must either wait for public transportation or walk.

    According to a poll released last month, a majority of Californians think it is best to prevent illegal immigrants from obtaining a driver's license. The Field Poll, an independent, non-partisan opinion poll, showed that 62 percent of the Californians surveyed rejected the idea, while 35 percent supported it.

    The issue is divided across party lines, with 86 percent of Republicans and 56 percent of Democrats opting to deny immigrants the chance to gain driver's licenses. It is even more divided along ethnic lines. Three out of four white, non-Hispanics opposed the idea, whereas Latinos supported the issue two to one. Of those Californians of other racial and ethnic backgrounds, 77 percent rejected the idea.

    The poll, which has a margin of error of around 4.1 percent, surveyed 506 California adults between Feb. 8 and Feb. 17.

    A voter approved proposition in 1994 disabled illegal immigrants from applying for driver's licenses, which they had been able to do prior to the passage of Prop. 187. Former Gov. Gray Davis overturned the law a month before the October 2003 recall election by signing a bill allowing illegal immigrants the right to driver's licenses.

    As part of his campaign promise, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger convinced the state legislature to undo Davis' new licensure law. State Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, reintroduced his license bill this year, which Schwarzenegger vetoed last year because he said it didn't include adequate security provisions.

    Schwarzenegger has suggested, however, that he would support a plan to issue a different kind of license that marked the driver as an illegal immigrant.

    According to the recent poll, opinions are split down the middle - 49 percent say yes, 48 percent say no - about the plan to issue a license that would allow immigrants to drive but would identify them as not being legal citizens.

    A new bill currently working through the U.S. Congress would prohibit states, including California, from granting undocumented immigrants driver's licenses by requiring all states to verify that applicants for driver's licenses are American citizens or living in the country legally. Of those surveyed, 59 percent said they would endorse that kind of bill.

    Although some local agencies offer free shuttles to drive those without licenses to doctor's appointments or to receive emergency medical attention, Truckee resident Monina Vazquez said there are still many people and families left unable to access transportation.

    "These people need to go to work, they need to support their families," she said. "It is a humanitarian thing."

    It is also a safety thing, according to Vazquez. Many undocumented immigrants are driving without licenses or insurance, making fake licenses or traveling outside of California to obtain licenses. For Truckee-Tahoe residents, that means crossing the border to a Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles office.

    "If nothing else, they should have a special permit that lets them drive but identifies them as illegal," she added.

    Those who are speaking out against the right to drive for undocumented immigrants say its a matter of principle and security concerns.

    "If they are illegal, they shouldn't be here. That's the biggest issue," said Mavis Bowes, member of the Truckee Tahoe Republican Women's Federation, who added that illegal immigrants are costing legal citizens expenses in education, medical funding and welfare.

    "I don't mean to be mean," she said. "But these immigrants are causing real problems in our country."

    At Republican Sen. Dave Cox's Sacramento-area office, which serves Placer County, there is strong opposition to any legislation enabling illegal immigrants to have driver's licenses.

    "There are a number of security concerns...," said Cox's communications director Peter DeMarco. "If you're an employer, you ask for a driver's license to verify work eligibility. If illegal immigrants get driver's license, there is no verification."

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    A Mexican immigrant living in Kings Beach without legal documentation has many burdens, including the inability to obtain a California driver's license. If she wants to take her children to the doctor or make a trip to the grocery store, she must either wait for public transportation or walk.
    She needs to be nabbed and deported immediately.
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    "I don't mean to be mean," she said. "But these immigrants are causing real problems in our country."
    This is our problem......."I DON'T MEAN TO BE MEAN"

    Someone tell me, why does anyone have to use this phrase when addressing the Law being broken? What gives??? Why so defensive?

    What's MEAN about not wanting to coddle law breakers.

    This has got to stop. There's no need to "defend" our feelings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndamendsis
    "I don't mean to be mean," she said. "But these immigrants are causing real problems in our country."
    This is our problem......."I DON'T MEAN TO BE MEAN"

    Someone tell me, why does anyone have to use this phrase when addressing the Law being broken? What gives??? Why so defensive?

    What's MEAN about not wanting to coddle law breakers.

    This has got to stop. There's no need to "defend" our feelings.
    I agree wholeheartedly.
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    In the Bay Area illegals are allowed to use picture ID issued from the Mexican consulate to cash checks,get library cards etc.Truckee is about as secluded as possible here in northern California so if they're there they can be found anywhere.

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    Transportation

    "If nothing else, they should have a special permit that lets them drive but identifies them as illegal," she added.
    If they are identified as ILLEGAL, they should be sent back home. Why should Californian's, or any American's, tax money be spent for identification of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS?

    How much money should the USA spend on people who are here ILLEGALLY? They have no citizenship and should be treated exactly as what they are -- CRIMINALS.

    There are HUGE amounts of Americans across our country who have transportation woes. Just ask any LEGAL Senior Citizen in any town in any State anywhere in America. Before we provide illegal immigrants with any mode of transportation, we should provide that for Americans who are desperately in need of it.

    The only transportation our Country should offer ILLEGALS is transportation back home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    The only transportation this Country should offer ILLEGALS is transportation back home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Amen

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    The only transportation this Country should offer ILLEGALS is transportation back home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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