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    Mexican voting bad for Mexican-Americans

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    Mexican voting bad for Mexican-Americans

    BY THOMAS D. ELIAS

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    It will seem odd, but the biggest political rallies in California next year will likely have nothing to do with anyone running for governor or any other American office. Rather, they will feature many thousands of Mexican émigrés rallying to support candidates for president of Mexico.

    This may turn out to be good for Mexico. The Mexican Congress certainly thinks so: It voted by an overwhelming 455-6 margin to allow absentee balloting by Mexicans living abroad.

    But the new right extended to emigrants may turn out to be one of the worst things that ever happened either to Mexican-Americans and newcomers from Mexico.

    In Los Angeles, by population the third largest Mexican city, the change will mean major political activity by both the ruling National Action Party (PAN) and the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI), which ran Mexico for more than 70 years before 2000. In Fresno, where tens of thousands of immigrant farm workers can easily be gathered, the same will likely occur. Expect lower levels of activity in the Sacramento and San Francisco Bay areas, but still plenty.

    As some immigrants in cities across America reacted jubilantly to their homeland's new law, it was impossible not to harken back to 1994, the last time California saw major rallies featuring the green, white and red flag of Mexico.

    At that time, immigrants and their supporters campaigned en masse against Proposition 187, a ballot initiative aiming to deprive illegal immigrants of all government services except emergency medical care. Among other things, it called for an end to public schooling or immunizing of children of illegal immigrants, and an end to pre-natal care of illegal immigrant mothers. It even demanded that schoolteachers report any illegal immigrant children to local authorities on pain of losing their jobs.

    The louder immigrants and their allies railed against 187, the more Mexican flags they waved out of both pride and indignation, the better 187 did in the polls. Eventually, it passed by about a 2-1 margin. The campaign and its aftermath also saw a sharp rise in hate crimes against Latinos, whether immigrants or longtime Californians.

    While 187 was gradually derailed by federal courts, the fervor of its backers never declined. They tried this spring to qualify a remake of their initiative for the state's next ballot, but failed because their petition drive lacked major financial backing. Yet, polls leave little doubt a 187 clone would pass again today, as a similar measure did last year across the state line in Arizona.

    The more Americans see Mexican flags flying in American cities, the more support there will be for measures like 187 and the more anti-Latino hate crimes will occur.

    This doesn't seem to matter much to Mexican officials, who want their émigrés to continue feeling strong ties to their homeland, mainly because they know the $17 billion or so sent home by immigrants makes up just under 10 percent of the Mexican economy. This is hardly surprising when one of every 14 native Mexicans now lives in America, according to recent Mexican government figures.

    But it's not good for Latino immigrants when they focus more on the homeland they left than on their new country. If they focus more on Mexico, will the Latino vote in America fall below last year's paltry 6 percent of the national total? For sure, prior to 187, Latinos cast far fewer votes in California than their share of either eligible voters or the general populace.

    The California numbers have climbed steadily since 1994, partly because fear of what might happen to them under 187 galvanized hundreds of thousands of legal immigrants who had been here many years at last to seek U.S. citizenship.

    When they acquired that citizenship and registered to vote, they were not forced to give up Mexican citizenship. They can remain dual citizens, just as Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger maintains dual citizenship here and in his native Austria. But if these new citizens revert to paying more attention to Mexican politics than America's, they will suffer.

    Only when California Latinos began voting in significant numbers were they able to influence siting of prisons and power plants, rail yards and freight facilities, often seen as blighting local neighborhoods. Stop paying attention, stop voting, and they'd soon be helpless to influence the quality of their own lives.

    All of which means that while absentee voting for Mexicans living here might be good for Mexico, it could prove destructive for California's fastest-growing voter bloc and ethnic group.
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    Re: Mexican voting bad for Mexican-Americans

    But it's not good for Latino immigrants when they focus more on the homeland they left than on their new country.
    Well....now that depends. It will be good for all those illegals and those here in visas when they expire, because THEY WILL BE RETURNING TO THEIR HOMELAND.

    And, the write of the article made a ridiculous statement about flying the Mexican Flags increasing "hate crimes" against Latinos. What is he talking about? Wishing to deport illegal aliens and those without allegiance to the United States is not a "hate crime". It's called get the illegals and the traitors out before they ruin our beautiful nation. We're gonna give them Happy Meals....not Hate Meals.

    And a "hate crime" is legally defined as being a violent act against someone of another race. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT THIS? LATINOS ARE CAUCASIAN. AND, most of what is in California are not Latino anyway. They are from Mexico and Mexican. Latinos are from Latin America. That is why they are called Latinos. Mexico is not part of Latin America. Latin America is South America. Why they call it Latin America, I do not know. English is a Latin derivative, same as French, same as Spanish, etc., etc., etc.

    If I'm mistaken, please someone correct me. Mexico speaks it's own many numerous dialects.
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    Re: Mexican voting bad for Mexican-Americans

    This may turn out to be good for Mexico. The Mexican Congress certainly thinks so: It voted by an overwhelming 455-6 margin to allow absentee balloting by Mexicans living abroad.
    Won't this be an amazing number of absentee votes? Plus the potential for voter fraud!

    I wonder if I got a Matricula Consular Card if I could vote too??

    On election day remember to vote absentee, vote early and vote often!

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    In my opinion fraud and Mexico are synonymous words. With the upcoming elections it is not if there will be any fraud but how much.
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    What's to stop us from interfering with their election?

    We should meddle with ballot boxes and install a candidate who may send less of his citizens here.

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    AZJouster!! Great idea...I was just thinking....why can't I vote in theirs, if they vote in ours?

    HEY!! Maybe one of us should go down there and run for office?

    I bet we'd get alot of votes!

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