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    Mexico: Trump's border wall would harm the environment

    By MEGHANA KURUP • 12/1/16 9:02 AM

    Mexico's ambassador to the U.S. is warning President-elect Trump that building a wall on the southwestern U.S. border would hurt the environment.

    "We fear that there is going to be consequences regarding environmental issues," Carlos Manuel Sada Solana, Mexico's ambassador to the U.S., said in an interview with the Arizona Republic. "It's also going to be sending a very negative message. What we say is we like to build bridges."

    Mexico has resisted Trump's proposal, and continues to reject Trump's demand that Mexico should be forced to pay for the wall. Sada reiterated that stance, and encouraged Trump to see Mexico as a partner, not an enemy.

    "We have said time and again Mexico is not paying for the wall," he said. "That is something that has been said several times by the president of Mexico, the secretary of foreign affairs, secretary of economy, the secretary of finance. So we are not paying for the wall."

    Trump said after an August meeting with Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto that the two "didn't discuss" who would pay for the multibillion dollar project, but claimed Pena Nieto "acknowledged" that the wall would be built.

    But Pena Nieto's tweet contrasted Trump's claim. He tweeted, "At the beginning of the conversation with Donald Trump I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall."

    Sada on Wednesday warned that if the Trump administration forces Mexico to pay for the border wall by trying to tax remittances, there are "legal issues" at stake. "[I]f that is one of the alternatives, we will find out what we have to do in that case. But this is not a deliberate action for Mexico to pay for the wall," he said.

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    Sada on Wednesday warned that if the Trump administration forces Mexico to pay for the border wall by trying to tax remittances, there are "legal issues" at stake. "[I]f that is one of the alternatives, we will find out what we have to do in that case. But this is not a deliberate action for Mexico to pay for the wall," he said.
    We don't need a "deliberate action for Mexico to pay for the wall". For starters, we're going to pay for the wall out of the money we withhold from what is now going to Mexico, so to US, you're paying for the wall.
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    Mexico hasn't been very concerned about the environment in the US as long as it's citizens have been sending money "home" to create the largest income that Mexico receives - ill gotten cash from illegal Mexican Nationals. By exporting it lowest classes, the people who are legally discriminated against based on their ethnicity in Mexico to work in the US and Mexico has been raking in the dough.

    ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION'S NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT


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    Tue, JUN 14th 2011 @ 1:27pm EDT

    Some of the devastating environmental impacts of illegal immigration through these protected areas include:

    The Park Service has closed the ohono O'odham Indian Reservation, Organ Pipe National Monument, and Buenos Aires Wildlife Refuge due to the "unacceptable level of risk to the public and staff" from the "high level of illegal activity going on."
    Trash


    • An estimated more than 2,000 tons of trash is discarded annually in Arizona's borderlands.
    • The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) estimates that illegal aliens dumped more than 25 million pounds of trash in the Arizona desert between 1999 and 2005—that is almost 2,100 tons of trash each year. See report and pictures.
    • The accumulation of disintegrating toilet paper, human feces, and rotting food has become a health and safety issue for residents of and visitors to some of these areas, and is threatening water supplies in some areas.
    • Birds and mammals, some endangered, die when they eat or become entangled in the trash.

    Fires


    • In 2002 in southern Arizona, illegal aliens were suspected of having caused at least eight major wildfires that burned 68,413 acres (Illegal Immigrants Tied to Costly Wildfires Associated Press, Dateline Tucson, Arizona, September 9, 2002).
    • In May of 2007, illegal aliens set at least five fires in the Coronado National Forest over a 10-day period in an effort to burn out Border Patrol agents conducting a law enforcement operation in the area (Illegals using fire to clear border. Washington Times, June 18, 2007).


    Illegal Roads and Abandoned Vehicles


    • By early 2004, the Chief Ranger at Organ Pipe estimated that illegal aliens and smugglers had created 300 miles of illegal roads and “thousands of miles of illegal trails."
    • More than 30 abandoned vehicles are removed from Organ Pipe alone each year.
    • Since its creation in 2000, more than 50 illegal roads have been created in the Ironwood Forest National Monument, and more than 600 vehicles are abandoned there each year.
    • There are an estimated 20-25 abandoned vehicles in the Cabeza Prieta NWR at any given time.
    • An estimated 180 miles of illegal roads were created in Cabeza Prieta between 2002 and 2006.


    Declining Wildlife Populations

    According to the Fish and Wildlife Service, mass illegal immigration is a likely contributing factor in the dramatic 79 percent decline in the U.S. Sonoran pronghorn population between 2000 and 2002.

    These are just a few examples of the massive environmental destruction being caused by rampant illegal immigration in southern Arizona. Similar damage is being done to remote, fragile lands in California, New Mexico, and Texas.

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    I love both those posts.

    You know, when I see stories like this, I wonder if the people writing it think the American people are clueless about this issue? Then I think maybe Americans are willfully ignorant about it.

    When we were in AZ, we read about the damage to some very ecologically sensitive areas out there. There was one story about an area that was so sensitive, admittance to it was limited, but that illegals were destroying it.
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    Illegals are criminals. They are really the worst sort of criminal when you think about it. They've left their countries, hooked up with drug cartels to invade a sovereign nation and make political demands to protect their criminal illegal enterprises and endeavors.

    They're all here because of the drug cartels. Just ask yourself, how illegal aliens have wads of cash at the Walmart and brand new F-150's and other vehicles working jobs at wages less than what Americans can survive on? How are they able to live pretty well on wages lower than our own when Americans can't?

    The reason is obvious. It's called SUPPLEMENTAL INCOME. Where does that come from? Yes, from running drugs and other criminal enterprises. They need the day jobs as cover and then run drugs and other illegal business activities at night. This is the whole scheme of how the foreign drug cartels have been able to dominate the US market in illegal drugs. It's a $300 billion a year industry just in the United States and it is fully protected by 300 Sanctuary Cities, many members of Congress, and many people who work in law enforcement at all levels of government.

    Why else would someone like Lindsay Graham want to introduce a bill to "limit deportations" of people who aren't supposed to be in our country to begin with? Why else would Dick Durbin? These guys are owned lock, stock and barrel by the cartels behind illegal immigration.
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