Thread: Mexico wants probe of tear-gas use by Border Patrol

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U.S. authorities have seen an increase in smuggling and more aggressive tactics by smugglers against Border Patrol agents

This is what the corrupt, broken Mexican government should be investigating. Solve this, no tear gas needed. Not rocket science.

The people who live in the area are the ones who complaining about the pepper spray, so shouldn't those same people stand up to the rock throwers and let them know it won't be tolerated? If thugs were coming on my block to throw rocks, and my kids were getting pepper sprayed, I would make it my mission to stop them. Funny how Mexicans can march and demand rights in the streets in the US, but they hide like the cowards they are when they're in their own country.

[b]Wendi Lee, a spokeswoman for the Border Patrol's San Diego sector, said the agency is aware of the Mexicans' concerns and has been in discussions with them to “find a better solution to combat the crime in our border areas.â€

AP Blaming US Border Agents for Illegals/Drug Dealer's Violence
By Warner Todd Huston
Created 2007-12-18 05:41

US border agents have been increasingly suffering physical attacks at the hands of drug traffickers and illegal entrants across the southern border, "nearly 1,000 times during a one-year period," AP reports. Naturally, this has caused the US border patrol to step up their replies and the levels of force they use to subdue these attacks -- after all, should our agents just take being attacked by flying rocks and bullets without reply? But, what does the AP report in theirs titled, "Border Patrol’s counteroffensive riles Mexico" [1]? They report that the Mexicans are mad at us. AP makes it appear as if we are at fault because they are increasing in their level of violence to which we are forced to reply.

Check out the sympathy that the AP offers Mexicans living near the border...

The Border Patrol says its agents were attacked nearly 1,000 times during a one-year period along the Mexican border, typically by assailants hurling rocks, bottles and bricks. Now the agency is responding with tear gas and powerful, pepper-spray weapons, including firing into Mexico.

The counteroffensive has drawn complaints that innocent families are being caught in the crossfire.

"A neighbor shouted, 'Stop it! There are children living here," said Esther Arias Medina, 41, who on Wednesday fled her Tijuana, Mexico, shanty with her 3-week-old grandson after the infant began coughing from smoke that seeped through the walls.


First of all, AP quotes someone who claims they saw a "neighbor" who "fled" with her child, but does not interview the actual woman herself. AP broke the very first rule in reporting: verification. After that, the following sentence AP gives us is this one...

A helmeted agent on the U.S. side said nothing as he stood with a rifle on top of a 10-foot border fence next to the three-room home that Arias shares with six others.


This line falsely presents the American officer as some jack-booted, faceless, uncaring stormtrooper who thoughtlessly attacks poor women and children and who stays menacingly silent when confronted. But, in truth, these agents were attacked before the incident. A reply with non-lethal force to an attack does not deserve to be treated as somehow worse than or equal to what elicited this response. Not that AP lets that get in the way of a good over dramatization of a story.

AP goes on to repeatedly plead the Mexican's case against our beleaguered border patrol.

"We don't deserve this," Arias said. "The people who live here don't throw rocks. Those are people who come from the outside, but we're paying the price."


I have an idea Esther, have YOUR people band together and stop those "people who come from outside" from getting there in the first place. It's called community, Mrs. Arias. Or, vote the crooks who are allowing this out of office. You DO have a democracy, after all.

In any case, AP then goes on to flavor what has been happening there with more misleading wording.

Witnesses in Arias' neighborhood described eight attacks since August that involved tear gas or pepper spray, some that forced residents to evacuate.


This sentence reads as if these "attacks" were all perpetrated by American forces on poor, innocent Mexicans, but these are not "attacks" but RESPONSES to attacks on our guards.

The AP does give our side a small chance to try to explain the situation.

The Border Patrol's top official in San Diego, Mike Fisher, said his agents are taking action because Mexican authorities have been slow to respond. When an attack happens, he said, American authorities often wait hours for them to come, and help usually never arrives.

"We have been taking steps to ensure that our agents are safe," Fisher said.


Still, AP doesn't let the fact that our agents are being attacked on a weekly basis and that their lives are daily put in danger deter their desire to blame the USA. AP gives us more complaints from Mexicans about the non-lethal responses to attacks on US border patrol agents.

Robis Guadalupe Argumedo, a seamstress in Tijuana, said she has been startled by tear gas on four nights since Aug. 7, when her 12-year-old son suffered a nose bleed. That attack also shattered a window of her neighbor's car.


And did these "attacks" cause the nose bleed? No claim is made that they did, but the nose bleed is coupled with the tale of the "attack" to lead readers to relate the two together.

Argumedo, 31, said she shouted in protest across the border at a helmeted agent on Dec. 8 after opening her front door to a cloud of tear gas. "He said: 'I'm the policeman of the world and I can do what I want.'"


It is amazing how the AP reports this claim of what the "policeman" supposedly said! AP reports the words of this carping aMexican woman as if it is fact. There were no words on AP's part mitigating the factual nature of the claims with AP simply letting her words stand as gospel. Then they follow up with more unproven claims.

Benito Arias said his 19-year-old sister-in-law fainted during an apparent tear gas attack about two weeks ago. The woman, five months pregnant, was given oxygen at the hospital.


As I said, this report does give the US side of the story, but all sympathy is with the Mexicans and no attempt is made by the AP to remind readers that all the claims made are still unproven claims and not facts. The AP also made no attempt to prove that hospital visits by border Mexicans are up because of actions by our border agents, for instance and no other sources are presented to prove any particulars of harm to any innocents. AP repeatedly used the word "attacks" in describing US agent's actions when the truth is our border agents were RESPONDING to being attacked, not doing the attacking.

All in all, this report elicits sympathy for the Mexicans and causes scorn on our border agents. Worse, little effort is made to place the blame where it really belongs: on the drug traffickers and illegal entrants who are increasing their violence.

But, who could doubt that the AP wants to blame the USA, anyway?

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I think what we need to do is invade Mexico and route out their corrupt government, if that's what you want to call it. Install one that will be responsible to its people and be done with it.

Would they prefer bullets vs pepper spray? Maybe they should be demanding that their own government take care of the criminals at their end who are assaulting our BP.

You would think the residents of these towns would want the criminal element gone, after all there are children there, right?

BP has finally found a way to protect themselves in a humanitarian way, without loss of life on either side, so BITE ME!

I think what we need to do is invade Mexico and route out their corrupt government, if that's what you want to call it. Install one that will be responsible to its people and be done with it.

I am all for that... as long as Bush is on trial for Treason... What I want to know is why isnt the Mexican police stopping the stone throwing

Wether we wish to accept it or not; we are in an undeclared war with Mexico and all of the corruption that comes with it

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

I think what we need to do is invade Mexico and route out their corrupt government, if that's what you want to call it. Install one that will be responsible to its people and be done with it.

I am all for that... as long as Bush is on trial for Treason... What I want to know is why isnt the Mexican police stopping the stone throwing

Because they have a vested interest in getting as many drugs and illegals to cross our borders.