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I need some info on birth estimates and costs of anchor babies to send to a reporter. Please post links here. Phone in each hand right now ringing off their hooks.

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A Nevada state program providing monthly welfare payments to children born in the United States to illegal immigrants has expanded for the last three years.

State figures show the program -- called nonqualified, noncitizen assistance -- has risen from an average of 670 monthly cases statewide in 2003 to 765 cases in 2005.

The program cost increased over the same period from two-point-one to two-point-five (M) Million dollars.

Officials say about 80 percent of state welfare payments are made in southern Nevada, including Clark County and Las Vegas.

The Nevada state Division of Welfare and Supportive Services is expected next month to consider offering help to a new group -- immigrants who've been the victims of abuse.

Officials say the idea is to make it possible for women to leave abusive situations -- even if they're in the country illegally.

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Let's see, a quick calculation shows that $2,500,000 divided by 765 cases equals a cost of $3,268 per case per year.

So what is it that they grow cheaply in Nevada that offsets this welfare expense?

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This tells you everything you want to know about immigration numbers:
http://uscis.gov/graphics/shared/statis ... /index.htm

Maybe the chart you were thinking about is here:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2002/back1302.html
Note that they include illegal aliens with "immigrants". The 1.3 million number much include illegal aliens.
You are right about how anchor babies combined with liberal welfare policies push up the birthrate. Birthrate numbers for California from here:
http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/CC_801HJCC.pdf

Hispanic immigrant 4.0
Hispanic native 2.5
Asian immigrant 2.3
Asian native 1.3
European immigrant 1.9
European native 1.6
African immigrant 2.0
African native 2.0

Combined:
Hispanics 3.4
Asian, European, African 1.8

Thus in California, Hispanic immigrants and their native born children have children at almost twice the rate of everyone else. Now you know why everyone else is escaping California. Not only whites but also blacks and Asians.

I agree that we should have a Constitutional Amendment to revoke the citizenship of current anchor babies under age 18. Those over age 18 could keep their citizenship, if they pass the citizenship test withing one year and swear allegiance only to the US.

This is how the US treats Amerasian children. These are the children born to US servicemen fathers and Asian mothers overseas, where the US father subsequently bugged out. Primarily they are in Vietnam, Korea, and Japan. The US does give them green cards to immigrate to the US when they turn 18, but does not give them automatic citizenship even though their fathers are US citizens. To become citizens they have to naturalize just like everyone else.

I guess you are right about the H2A visa, it is unlimited. However due to the paperwork and requirements involved, only about 30,000 are used every year. And this program actually works well compared to the other ones, almost all these temporary workers go back to Mexico at the end of the season.

As for "family reunification" the Jordan Commission recommended ended it. Eliminating these categories along with the visa lottery and section 245i amnesty is how legal immigration would be reduced from about 1 million to 550,000 long term. Looking again, the 600,000 number I quoted for the Jordan Commission was a temporary level to reduce some backlogs, the long term number they recommended is 550,000 a year.

One more thing about the Jordan Commission. You absolutely never hear the media mention this commission. Even though it was chaired by former black civil rights activist and Congresswoman Barbara Jordan. it's because the media is controlled by open borders Corporate Fascists.
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[b]Deal has said he will continue pushing the issue, describing birthright citizenship as “a huge magnetâ€? attracting illegal immigrants. He cited estimates â€â€

GREAT WORK, REBECCA!!

This is the one you want william
We pick up the tab in many ways for the undocumented - from burying their dead, to delivery of their babies, to emergency medical and surgical care. There are 300,000 babies born to undocumented mothers annually at a cost of $5,000 a baby.

In Colorado, Medicaid pays for 6,000 births for a total of $30 million annually. In 2002, California paid $79 million for births, Texas $74 million, Arizona $31 million and New Mexico $6 million.

Small hospitals can be overwhelmed. Copper Queen Hospital in Bisbee, Ariz., spent $200,000 out of its $300,000 operating budget on illegal immigrants.

Some hospitals

http://www.cis.org/articles/2005/back805.html

Analysis of birth records shows that in 2002 almost one in four births in the United States was to an
immigrant mother, legal and illegal, the highest level in American history. The enormous number and proportion of children from immigrant families may overwhelm the assimilation process, making it difficult to integrate these new second-generation Americans. At present, the U.S. government automatically gives American citizenship to all people born in the country, even the children of tourists and illegal aliens.1

Among the study?s findings:

? In 2002, 23 percent of all births in the United States were to immigrant mothers (legal or illegal), compared to 15 percent in 1990, 9 percent in 1980, and 6 percent in 1970.

? Even at the peak of the last great wave of immigration in 1910, births to immigrant mothers accounted for a slightly smaller share than today. After 1910 immigration was reduced, but current immigration continues at record levels, thus births to immigrants will continue to increase.

? Our best estimate is that 383,000 or 42 percent of births to immigrants are to illegal alien mothers. Births to illegals now account for nearly one out of every 10 births in the United States.

? The large number of births to illegals shows that the longer illegal immigration is allowed to persist, the harder the problem is to solve. Because as U.S. citizens these children can stay permanently, their citizenship can prevent a parent?s deportation, and once adults they can sponsor their parents for permanent residence.

? The large number of children born to illegals also shows that a ?temporary? worker program is unrealistic because it would result in hundreds of thousands of permanent additions to the U.S. population each year, exactly what such a program is supposed to avoid.

? Overall, immigrant mothers are much less educated than native mothers. In 2002, 39 percent of immigrant mothers lacked a high school education, compared to 17 percent of native mothers. And immigrants now account for 41 percent of births to mothers without a high school degree.

? The dramatic growth in births to immigrants has been accompanied by a decline in diversity. In 1970, the top country for immigrant births ? Mexico ? accounted for 24 percent of births to immigrants, by 2002 it was 45 percent.

? As a share of all births in the country, Mexican immigrants accounted for one in 10 births in 2002. No single foreign country has ever accounted for such a large share of births.

? In 2002, births to Hispanic immigrants accounted for 59 percent of all births to immigrant mothers. No single cultural/linguistic group has ever accounted for such a large share of births to immigrants.

? The states with the most dramatic increase in births to immigrants in the last decade are Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada, Nebraska, Arkansas, Arizona, Tennessee, Minnesota, Colorado, Delaware, Virginia, and Maryland

? Immigrants account for such a large percentage of births because they have somewhat higher fertility and are more likely to be in their reproductive years than natives. However, the difference with natives is not large enough to significantly affect the nation?s overall age structure.

? Immigrants who have arrived in the last two decades plus all of their U.S.-born children have only reduced the average age in the United States from 37 to 36 years.

? Looking at the working age share (15 to 64) of the population also shows little effect from immigration. With or without post-1980 immigrants and their U.S.-born children, 66 percent of the population is of working age.

? While immigration has little effect on the nation?s age structure, new immigrants (legal and illegal) plus births to immigrants add some 2.3 million people to the nation?s population each year, making for a much larger overall population.

Births to Illegal Aliens.
Illegal immigration is one of the most contentious issues of our time. The debate involves many complex topics that go well beyond the scope of this analysis. Birth data, however, can better inform the debate over illegal immigration by providing insight into the number of children born to illegal alien mothers each year. (How one estimates births to illegals will be discussed at length in the next section.) The number of these children has direct bearing on what policy options we decide to pursue in dealing with this problem.

A large number of children born to illegals may mean, for example, that a temporary worker program, like the one outlined by President Bush, is unrealistic. As U.S. citizens, all children born to guestworkers would have the right to stay permanently. Presumably most would return home if their parents did so, but some would be placed with relatives or even family friends in the reasonable belief that they would have better lives in America. As citizens this would be their right. But even assuming the parents return home and take their U.S.-born children with them, these citizen children have the right to return to America at any time. A significant share can be expected to do so when they reach adulthood.

Additionally, under current law, the citizenship of these children can be used to prevent their parent?s deportation. This is because immigration judges can and do take into account the harm done to American citizens by a deportation. Thus, if many guestworkers or illegal aliens with U.S. citizen children decide to stay in America and fight deportation, their U.S. citizen children give them excellent grounds to do so. It must also be remembered that once these children are adults they have the right as citizens to sponsor their parents for permanent residence without any numerical caps. All of these factors mean that a ?temporary? worker program would result in tens of millions of permanent additions to the U.S. population, which is precisely what a temporary worker program is supposed to avoid. But without a careful analysis of birth data of the kind done here, one may not realize this.

Estimating Births to Illegal Aliens.
As already indicated, more than 99 percent of births in the United States are recorded. Thus the birth data include births to those in the country illegally. To arrive at an estimate of births to illegals, we estimate births per thousand for various demographic categories of immigrant women in their reproductive years. To do this we first generate a mid-2002 estimate of the total foreign-born population so that the number of births relative to the size of the population can be calculated.6 We then combine this estimate with the number of births from the NCHS data to get immigrant fertility rates by age, education level (for Mexicans), and region or country of origin. Dividing the number of births by the size of female foreign-born population in demographic category produces birth rates. Once we estimate birth rates by category, we then estimate the number of illegal alien women in each category.7 To estimate the size of the female illegal alien population of reproductive age by category we rely on prior research and our own analysis.8 We assume that illegal aliens have the same fertility as their legal counterparts. The available evidence indicates that the fertility of illegal aliens does not differ significantly from their legal counterparts with the same characteristics.9

Our best estimates indicate that there were 383,000 births to illegal alien mothers in 2002, accounting for 42 percent of all births to immigrants and 9.5 percent of all births in the country. While this may seem like a surprisingly large share of births, it must be remembered that our own research, as well as work by the Urban Institute, Pew Hispanic Center, and the Census Bureau, indicates that more than one-fourth of the nation?s immigrant population is illegal. Moreover, because illegals come mainly to work, they are overwhelmingly in their primary reproductive years, comprising more than one-third of all immigrants age 18 to 39. Illegals tend to either gain legal status as they grow older or eventually return to their home countries. Therefore, the illegal population tends to be comprised of individuals in their 20s and 30s. In contrast, there are a larger number of older legal immigrants who have lived in the country for a long time and are over age 40. In addition, all prior research indicates that 80 percent or more of illegal immigrants are Hispanic, a group with relatively high fertility. For these reasons, illegal immigrants account for a much larger share of births than their share in the overall population or the immigrant population.


Very long article with lots more information than I posted.

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600147361,00.html

[quote]WASHINGTON â€â€

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/ ... irths.html

[quote]Nearly one-fifth of all births in Georgia are to immigrant mothers, a rate that has increased dramatically in the past 35 years, a study released Thursday said.

Of those births, 43 percent were to mothers who are illegal immigrants. As a result, 8 percent of births in the state are to illegal immigrant mothers, the study said.

"The numbers are really, really striking," said Steve Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies and author of the study. The center is a Washington think tank that advocates stronger immigration controls.

In 1970, 1 percent of births in Georgia were to immigrant mothers, compared with 19 percent in 2002 â€â€

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medical ... wsid=27182

Category: Pediatrics News
Article Date: 10 Jul 2005

Infants born to immigrant women accounted for nearly 23% of all U.S. births in 2002, reaching an all-time high of about 915,800 births, according to a study released on Thursday by the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that seeks tighter immigration controls, the Houston Chronicle reports (Grant, Houston Chronicle, 7/8 ). CIS Director of Research Steven Camarota analyzed birth certificate records for the study, titled "Births to Immigrants in America -- 1970 to 2002." Of the approximately four million U.S. births in 2002, 22.7% were to immigrant women, an increase from 14.9% in 1990 and 6.1% in 1970, according to the study. The study also estimates that about 10% of U.S. births in 2002, or about 383,000, were to undocumented immigrant women. Latinos accounted for 59% of immigrant births in 2002, with Mexican immigrants accounting for about 45% of immigrant births and 10% of all U.S. births, according to the study (Dinan, Washington Times, 7/8 ). The percentage of infants born to immigrants in 2002 is similar to that of 1910, when it was about 22% of all births (Caruso, AP/Fort Wayne News-Sentinel, 7/7). The states with the largest increase in the number of immigrant births in the last 10 years include Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada, Nebraska, Arkansas, Arizona, Tennessee, Minnesota, Colorado, Delaware, Virginia and Maryland, according to the study (Camarota, "Births to Immigrants in America -- 1970 to 2002," July 2005).