Thread: MSM/McCain camp blames us in part for his defeat

Originally Posted by wilma1

This is what really concerns me. Now both parties will vie for the illegal vote. What the republicans do not understand is that the "poor" hispanics, those that are here illegally, or the anchor babies of those, will ALWAYS vote Democratic. The republicans need to realize that just as the Black vote will always be democratic so will the hispanic vote. It is true that many hispanics, those who were born here are conservative and many are republicans. I think these "campaign" people do not understand,have not lived among these people and are naive if they think they will get hispanic votes. The big irony is they LET THEM IN!!!!Instead of protecting our borders they opened them to the Democratic Party. Amazing. Truly remarkable and I fear for our future.

You'd think if we can see this, the "campaign" people could see it too, and map out a different strategy. Then again, maybe they do see it, and the Establishment Democrats, and Establishment Republicans are just playing a variation of "Good Cop, Bad Cop" on this issue.

New Republican Majority? See: www.amconmag.com/article/2006/may/08/00009/

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McCain made his bed with McCain/ Kennedy....

But to say Obama jumped all over the bail out is pure crap...McCain suspended his campaign( first mistake) ( 2nd mistake) voted for it ).......Obama was not going to go to DC remember he said I am in contact with them on the phone every day...when he found out McCain was going to DC he could not beat feet to the airport fast enough

Do these writers ever print any thing close to the truth anylonger?

The number of Americans turned off by amnesty is clearly larger than the number of Latino voters especially after factoring in those voting for Obama. McCain would have gotten more Latinos by switching sides because the Latino amnesty supporters were for the other side.

Lots of issues but a couple in my opinion is no true conservatives running , they had one in Palin but elitist McCain handlers did not agree with her views, two we have a less educated group of voters, public schools have done a terrible disservice too America past 30 years, teaching less history and working on social engineering,"socialist views".

They have spent many years trying to convince the world the white
Christian is an evil being and to some degree its working,my question
where will the left direct their hate next.(?)

McCain is a loser with no class. If he cannot accept responsibility for the inept campaign that he ran then it is good he didn't win. These are the dying throes of the elite Republicans, lash out at everybody instead of placing the blame squarely where it belongs. They are the ones, along with McCain that destroyed this party and they need to go their own merry way and let the real conservatives run things for a while. Let McCain retire and write his memoirs, it's just too damn bad that they won't measure up to his father's or grandfather's. They destroyed America's enemies and he helped bring down the Republican party.

Originally Posted by Richard

The number of Americans turned off by amnesty is clearly larger than the number of Latino voters especially after factoring in those voting for Obama. McCain would have gotten more Latinos by switching sides because the Latino amnesty supporters were for the other side.

That's a great point Richard, the pro-enforcement Latinos didn't have a candidate to vote for, while Obama sweet talked all the amnesty supporting Latinos to vote for him. Heck even in McCain's home state of AZ half of Latino voters supported Prop 200 which enforced the immigration laws. I guess Juan Hernandez kept Old Johnny from hearing that bit of info.

Neal Cavuto made a big deal at the end of his show today that seven of the US Senators who voted NO on the bailout were re-elected. Yep there were our champions, Sessions, Inhofe, etc. good guys. IF McCain had the snickers to do what they did he might be President right now. If he had put out ads on Obama's coal bankruptcy plans he'd be President Elect right now. No its ineptness all the way, next to shading dealing and charlatan slick politics on the other side.

Originally Posted by Richard

The number of Americans turned off by amnesty is clearly larger than the number of Latino voters especially after factoring in those voting for Obama.

Yes. See this related story though from the WSJ. We know that they have a pro-amnesty agenda -- note the quote from Frank Sharry ). We can expect to see alot more of this type of reporting -- on the perceived politics of this based on demographic shifts rather than substantive policy discussions on overpopulation, environmental issues, increases in entitlements etc. -- most of which is based on immigration policy decisions.

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Wall Street Journal
NOVEMBER 6, 2008
Big Turnout of Latino Voters Boosted Obama
Clout of Fastest-Growing U.S. Demographic Group Is Seen Even Outside of Traditional Hispanic Strongholds

By MIRIAM JORDAN in Los Angeles and

Record turnout among Hispanic voters helped push Barack Obama over the top in an election that signals the emerging political clout of the nation's fastest-growing demographic group.

About 10 million Hispanics cast a ballot, up from 7.8 million in the 2004 presidential contest, accounting for 8% of the national voting public, exit polls show. Latinos voted for Sen. Obama over Sen. John McCain nationally by 66% to 32%, marking a dramatic shift toward Democrats from 2004, when more than 50% supported Sen. John Kerry and 40% voted for President Bush.

More important, this election shattered the perception that Latino voters only have a powerful impact in their traditional stronghold of the Southwest. While Latinos were key to Sen. Obama's victories in both Nevada and New Mexico, where he lost the non-Hispanic white vote, their support also was crucial in hotly contested states such as Virginia and Pennsylvania, where Latinos now represent about 5% of the voting population. In Florida, this election marked the first time that a Democratic presidential candidate won a majority of the Latino vote.

"This election proves Latinos are no longer just a political sideshow," says Henry Cisneros, former secretary of Housing and Urban Development. "The Latino population is large enough that it moves the needle."

This newfound clout is only expected to increase in the coming years, as the growth of the Hispanic population outpaces that of the rest of the nation. In 2016, Hispanics are expected to number about 60 million, up from 45 million today. And though Hispanics voted overwhelmingly Democratic this time around, they are likely to be courted heavily by both parties in the future.

"Twenty years from now Latinos will be twice as important as they are today," says Matt Barreto, a political science professor at the University of Washington who does Hispanic polling.

He also noted that in the next presidential election, Latinos would emerge as an influential voting bloc in more states, such as North Carolina and Georgia. "Within the next decade, Latino voters could become decisive in several second-tier states," says Prof. Barreto.

The Obama campaign spent heavily to court Latino voters, spending some $20 million, more than half of it on Spanish-language television and radio. It opened campaign offices in areas with a big Hispanic population, and trained Spanish-speaking grassroots workers who went door to door in Latino enclaves to drum up support for Mr. Obama, especially in battleground states.

Latino voters were the second most likely group to vote for Sen. Obama, after African-Americans. Support for Mr. Obama was strong among Latinos in all age groups. About one in five new voters were Hispanic, many of them immigrants who responded to a mass mobilization drive by Hispanic media and community groups to get out the vote. That energized Latino voters, who showed up at the polls in higher percentages than other newly registered voter groups. Relative to 2004, the total number of registered Hispanics soared by 144% in Nevada, 35% in Colorado, 34% in Florida and 30% in New Mexico.

In Florida, where 14% of voters are Latino, 57% of Hispanics backed Sen. Obama compared with 42% who favored the Democratic candidate in 2004, as the influence of older, conservative Cuban-Americans was eclipsed by young Cuban-Americans and South and Central American immigrants.

In the battleground state of Colorado, the Latino vote represented 17% of the voting public, with 73% of Latino voters supporting Sen. Obama. In New Mexico, Latinos constituted 41% of the voting population and 69% of them supported Sen. Obama. In Nevada, the Latino vote was 16% of the voting population, with 78% of them backing the Democratic candidate.

Sen. McCain had hoped to attract Hispanics with his pro-military, anti-abortion stances and his record in favor of immigration reform.
Sen. Obama faced a big initial challenge in attracting Hispanic voters, many of whom had thrown their support behind Sen. Hillary Clinton in the primaries. But the rancorous tone of the immigration debate, coupled with the economic downturn, eventually helped turn Hispanic voters toward Sen. Obama.

"The debate over immigration started driving Hispanic voters toward the Democratic party, and the economic black hole clinched it," says Sergio Bendixen, a pollster who worked for the Democratic campaign.
Still, some Hispanic advocates believe that the Obama campaign's success with Latino voters stems in large part from the groundwork laid by Sen. Clinton.

"Republicans have literally driven the fastest-growing group of new voters into the arms of a Democratic Party that hasn't really worked that hard to get their votes," said Frank Sharry, executive director of America's Voice, an immigrant advocacy group.

Ana Rendon, a 30-year-old office worker in Dallas, recently became a U.S. citizen and voted for the first time Tuesday. She didn't want to reveal whom she voted for, but she was happy to say why she had gone to the polls: "For us to count here as Hispanics."


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1225934 ... lenews_wsj

Mr. McCain, if you had not pandered to criminal aliens, If you had promised a secure border, support e-verify, and making sure Americans were taken care of first, I would have voted for you. Instead, I was forced to vote for a 3rd party. This is your fault Mr. McCain, no one elses.