Thread: MT: Senate endorses anti-illegal immigration law

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Nov 15, 2007
Senate endorses anti-illegal immigration law
By ALAN SUDERMAN
HELENA, Mont. - The first in a series of bills designed to curb illegal immigration was endorsed by the Senate Thursday.

The bill, sponsored by Sen. Jim Shockley, R-Victor, would prohibit unlawful workers from obtaining or renewing state occupational licenses, such as those needed to be a plumber or a doctor. The measure passed 27-23, with every Republican Sen. and three Democratic Senators voting for it.

Shockley, who has sponsored three other bills designed to restrict illegal immigrants this session, said the majority of Montanans want the government to punish unlawful workers. He told the Senate that he was "nibbling around the around the edges" of the illegal immigration issue because immigration is the federal government's responsibility.

"The problem is the Congress passes laws they don't want the president to enforce. And guess what, he doesn't enforce them," Shockley said.

Opponents of the bill said it was unnecessary and would create problems for law-abiding workers.

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The bill, sponsored by Sen. Jim Shockley, R-Victor, would prohibit unlawful workers from obtaining or renewing state occupational licenses, such as those needed to be a plumber or a doctor. The measure passed 27-23, with every Republican Sen. and three Democratic Senators voting for it.

Apparently the Democrats don't care if your doctor is illegal or not. How could any sensible person NOT support this?

Why would this be a partisan issue??? I absolutely can't understand it! You would put your party before your country. Bunch of dam traitors.

Opponents of the bill said it was unnecessary and would create problems for law-abiding workers.

...ain't that a shame, doo-wa doo-wa diddy-dum-dum.

prohibit unlawful workers from obtaining or renewing state occupational licenses, such as those needed to be a plumber or a doctor.


How Are they Geting them In the first place ?
Call me old fasion But, Here in Ohio We have to show a whole lot of stuff even to get the permit to get the licenses.

Why would this cause any problems for lawful "legal citizens"?

Originally Posted by nittygritty

Why would this cause any problems for lawful "legal citizens"?

You aren't supposed to ask that!! It seems the stance taken on any illegal alien bill is that "it will cause big problems for legal residents" and nobody has ever come up with any logical or reasonable problems beyond the ludicrous ones they always throw out there.

It's like saying giving tickets to speeders will cause problems for non-speeders.

Anyone that supports these illegal alien Invaders ...is a SellOut TRAITOR to America Period!!
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Originally Posted by gofer

Originally Posted by nittygritty

Why would this cause any problems for lawful "legal citizens"?

You aren't supposed to ask that!! It seems the stance taken on any illegal alien bill is that "it will cause big problems for legal residents" and nobody has ever come up with any logical or reasonable problems beyond the ludicrous ones they always throw out there.

It's like saying giving tickets to speeders will cause problems for non-speeders.

The "legal citizens" are the citizens who "count": the super rich, the drug dealers and the corrupt. You and I are "the little" people. We are nothing but a joke to the wealthy elites of the US and Mexico.

We have been turned into slaves, so they don't consider us "legal citizens".

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Senate Votes to Deny Illegal Aliens Licenses


By Dan Testa, 2-15-07


A favorite argument against many bills in Senate floor debates is that the legislation attempts to solve a problem that doesn’t exist—that if it ain’t broke, as the saying goes, then don’t fix it.

Such were the arguments Thursday against a bill introduced by Sen. Jim Shockley, R-Victor, to deny state licenses to illegal aliens.

Ultimately, however, the Senate voted for the bill, 27 to 23, clearing the way for its passage to the House.

“Illegal aliens are not bad people,” Shockley said. “They’re hard workers and they want to better themselves.”

But they take jobs, bust unions and use public services for which they haven’t paid, he added.

Shockley’s bill does not require any disciplinary action by the state nor that any licenses already issued be revoked.

“This is a very innocuous bill,” Shockley added.

Sen. Vicki Cocchiarella, D-Missoula, said the bill could overturn the licensing criteria for all Montanans and that it’s impossible for an illegal alien to get a license in most cases anyway.

“We don’t have an issue with this right now in Montana,” Cocchiarella said. “Current criteria does not allow someone who is an illegal alien to proceed through those steps.”

“I think enforcement and responsibility by employers and contractors is the direction we should go,” she added.

Sen. Dave Wanzenried, D-Missoula, said the bill required an explanation of its cost, since similar efforts in Colorado to beef up licensing regulation have cost the state millions.

“We’re not going to be able to make this work; Colorado has tried this,” Wanzenried said. “The policy question is whether or not the state ought to be an immigration service.”

“Arguments against this bill are simply muddying the waters,” said Shockley in his conclusion. “These illegal immigrants are a minority who should have to obey the law.”

“The people of Montana want us to do something about this issue.”