Thread: NC: Council to consider Mexican ID

Doesn't NC have an Id card for people here legally...show your papers and get an ID.

"The government in Mexico normally would accept an identification document ... that is issued in the United States to an American citizen," he said. "We are arguing for reciprocity."

Mexico doesn't have 30 million illegal Americans running around!! Sheez these people are so stupid!

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Doesn't NC have an Id card for people here legally...show your papers and get an ID.

"The government in Mexico normally would accept an identification document ... that is issued in the United States to an American citizen," he said. "We are arguing for reciprocity."

Mexico doesn't have 30 million illegal Americans running around!! Sheez these people are so stupid!

The Mexican government is FAR stricter on documentation. A U.S. issued drivers license is required as an absolute minimum. A passport is a MUST and if you are in the country on a visa they are very strict at enforcement. I have traveled there on business for many years and can attest to the hassle of having proper documentation.

More double standards....figures!!

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Doesn't NC have an Id card for people here legally...show your papers and get an ID.

"The government in Mexico normally would accept an identification document ... that is issued in the United States to an American citizen," he said. "We are arguing for reciprocity."

Mexico doesn't have 30 million illegal Americans running around!! Sheez these people are so stupid!

If you are here legally your driver's license is your photo ID as is a greencard. I know Florida has photo ID cards that people can get at the DMV but that would be more for someone with a visa and does not drive.

Originally Posted by swatchick

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Doesn't NC have an Id card for people here legally...show your papers and get an ID.

"The government in Mexico normally would accept an identification document ... that is issued in the United States to an American citizen," he said. "We are arguing for reciprocity."

Mexico doesn't have 30 million illegal Americans running around!! Sheez these people are so stupid!

If you are here legally your driver's license is your photo ID as is a greencard. I know Florida has photo ID cards that people can get at the DMV but that would be more for someone with a visa and does not drive.

That is what Idaho has a photo ID that looks just like a drivers license and ID requirements are the same as when getting a drivers license.

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Originally Posted by swatchick

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Doesn't NC have an Id card for people here legally...show your papers and get an ID.

"The government in Mexico normally would accept an identification document ... that is issued in the United States to an American citizen," he said. "We are arguing for reciprocity."

Mexico doesn't have 30 million illegal Americans running around!! Sheez these people are so stupid!

If you are here legally your driver's license is your photo ID as is a greencard. I know Florida has photo ID cards that people can get at the DMV but that would be more for someone with a visa and does not drive.

That is what Idaho has a photo ID that looks just like a drivers license and ID requirements are the same as when getting a drivers license.

It is the same in Florida. On your driver's license it says driver's license on a green background and on photo ID the background is red. If you are on a visa you have a regular driver's license plus temporary printed on it in red.

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Doesn't NC have an Id card for people here legally...show your papers and get an ID.

"The government in Mexico normally would accept an identification document ... that is issued in the United States to an American citizen," he said. "We are arguing for reciprocity."

Mexico doesn't have 30 million illegal Americans running around!! Sheez these people are so stupid!

Exactly. Show your US issued immigration papers and get an ID. You don't get permission from the Mexican government to be in the US, you get it from the US government.

What are all these Hispanics from Mexico with no immigration papers doing in Durham to begin with? If they have no immigration papers, they're supposed to be deported.

If I lived in N.C., the first thing I would be doing Monday morning is calling these city counsel members!! As a matter of fact if anyone can post their names and numbers I will call them anyway. North Carolinians and everyone should get to work on this quick.

Could be your state next.


This is outrageous!!

Council to vote Nov. 15 on form of ID
The Herald Sun
11.07.10 - 11:33 pm
By Ray Gronberg


DURHAM -- City Council members say they'll vote Nov. 15 on a resolution to agree that a Mexican consular ID is a valid form of identification police can rely on in their dealings with public.

But they placed the resolution on the meetings' so-called "general business agenda," which means they believe it's potentially controversial -- a safe bet, given its tie to the wider immigration debate.

The vote is coming in response to a push by the Durham Bill of Rights Defense Committee, which favors recognition of the "matricula consular" so minor police matters like traffic stops that involve Hispanic immigrants don't escalate into deportation proceedings.

Durham police already accept the matricula as ID, and do not object to the resolution because its wording still allows officers to make arrests when they see fit, City Attorney Patrick Baker said.

The most common scenario advocates of the resolution say it will address is when an officer stops a motorist and finds he or she is driving without a license.

State law allows officers to make arrests for that, but in Durham they'll most often settle for writing a ticket.

Police here prefer ticketing low-level offenses because to arrest someone an officer has to leave patrol, often for hours, to deal with the paperwork involved in the booking process, Deputy Police Chief Steve Mihaich said.

That calculus changes if an offender can't produce ID. Then, an officer might be more inclined to detain the person until authorities can verify who they are.

Matricula advocates contend that discrepancy opens the door for routine law-enforcement issues to turn into deportation matters when an immigrant lacks a license or other state ID. The Mexican document, they argue, serves to show the bearer is who he or she says.

The Mexican government has joined the push for the resolution.

Its consul general for the Carolinas, Carlos Flores-Vizcarra, told council members last week that police in that country recognize the validity of passports, state drivers licenses and other government-issue IDs visiting U.S. citizens carry.

"We're talking about reciprocity," Flores-Vizcarra said.

A couple of council members, however, signaled they're wary of Durham taking the lead on a hot-button issue no other big city in the state has touched.

Earlier this year the council as a group was deluged by e-mails, many from out of town and out of state, when as a protest against a state-ordered immigration crackdown in Arizona it voted to bar city employees from traveling to that state on official business.

Given that the local consulate is in Raleigh, "it would seem to me that Raleigh would have been the beginning point of this process, as the capital of the state of North Carolina, to see how it would respond to what's being proposed," Councilman Howard Clement told Flores-Vizcarra.

The consul general, however, said he opted to work with advocacy groups on a Durham resolution because their drive for one was already under way when he took his post last year.


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OneNationUnderGod, I have to work today, but here are the email addresses. Have fun!

Durham City Council

Willliam V. Bell------------ Bill.Bell@durhamnc.gov

Cora Cole-McFadden------ Cora.Cole-McFadden@durhamnc.gov

Farad Ali------------------- Farad.Ali@durhamnc.gov

Eugene Brown------------- Eugene.Brown@durhamnc.gov

Diane Catotti-------------- Diane.Catotti@durhamnc.gov

Howard Clement----------- Howard.Clement@durhamnc.gov

Mike Woodard---------- Mike.Woodard@durhamnc.gov