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NC Lawmakers Consider Driver’s Licenses for Undocumented Immigrants

By Jorge Valencia • 13 hours ago
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Members of a North Carolina legislative panel approved a plan on Wednesday to allow undocumented immigrants to obtain a type of driver’s license if they pass a criminal background check and meet several other requirements.

Rep. Harry Warren (R-Rowan) is the lead sponsor of a bill that would make immigrants in the country illegally eligible to apply for driver's licenses.
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For sponsors of the bill, the plan is a way to help police enforce local laws when they interact with people who are living in the country illegally. Local charities in Winston-Salem and Greensboro and authorities in Charlotte either issue or are looking for ways to issue identification cards, said Rep. Harry Warren (R-Salisbury).
“There is a need for identification, but we can’t have municipalities or faith-based organizations creating their own form of ID,” Warren said in a hearing.
But for representatives who opposed the bill and anti-illegal immigration advocates, state-issued identification would be a type of validation and invitation for unwanted migration to the state. The bill has provisions—including making the possession of false documents a felony—that improve security in the state, but they are insufficient measures, said William Gheen, president of the Raleigh-based Americans for Legal immigration.
“The poison pill in this bill is it is a license for illegal immigrants,” Gheen said.
House Bill 328, which was approved in voice vote by a judiciary committee in the House of Representatives, is one of two immigration-related proposals North Carolina lawmakers have debated during this year’s legislative session. Also on Wednesday, members of the House commerce committee approved a bill that would increase the number of businesses required to use the federal electronic system known as E-Verify to check prospective employees’ legal eligibility to work.
House Bill 318 would require businesses employing five or more more people to use the database, tightening the current requirement that businesses employ 25 or more people. Bill sponsor Rep. George Cleveland (R-Onslow) said state lawmakers should work to keep people from immigrating illegally, because he said Congress continues not to act on the country’s broken immigration laws.
“We’ve allowed a huge illegal population in the state,” Cleveland said. “We’ve taken employment from our citizens. We’ve lowered the wage base because of the illegals working here.”
The proposal received support from anti-illegal immigration organizations and from Fred Bronson, who said he was laid off from his job at a Raleigh electrical company because his employer favored immigrants who earned lower wages. The North Carolina Chamber does not support the plan because it would undo portions of a similar state law it helped negotiate in 2014 and would be a detriment to small businesses, a spokesperson said.
HB328 would make people in the country eligible to obtain a one-year driver’s that would bear distinctive formatting. It would make it a felony to have, make, or sell false documents, and a misdemeanor in cases of people under 21 attempting to buy alcohol or people under 18 attempting to buy cigarettes. And it would make it more difficult for judges to release people in the country illegally who are suspected of a sex offense, a violent felony, or driving, drug or gang offenses.
Wednesday’s proposals have some overlap. Both would invalidate consular registration cards as valid forms of identification. Consulates including Mexico’s issue registration cards.
But the sponsors of the two bills disagree on an approach to illegal immigration. Rep. Chris Millis (R-Pender), co-sponsor of HB318, the bill tightening E-Verify requirements, said that supporting the driver’s license bill would violate his oath of office.
"You’re asking me if I would support legislation that would help people who are willingly breaking federal law?” Millis said in an interview. "No."




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NC Lawmakers Consider Driver’s Licenses for Undocumented Immigrants

By Jorge Valencia • 13 hours ago
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Members of a North Carolina legislative panel approved a plan on Wednesday to allow undocumented immigrants to obtain a type of driver’s license if they pass a criminal background check and meet several other requirements.

Rep. Harry Warren (R-Rowan) is the lead sponsor of a bill that would make immigrants in the country illegally eligible to apply for driver's licenses.
Credit Jorge Valencia



For sponsors of the bill, the plan is a way to help police enforce local laws when they interact with people who are living in the country illegally. Local charities in Winston-Salem and Greensboro and authorities in Charlotte either issue or are looking for ways to issue identification cards, said Rep. Harry Warren (R-Salisbury).
“There is a need for identification, but we can’t have municipalities or faith-based organizations creating their own form of ID,” Warren said in a hearing.
But for representatives who opposed the bill and anti-illegal immigration advocates, state-issued identification would be a type of validation and invitation for unwanted migration to the state. The bill has provisions—including making the possession of false documents a felony—that improve security in the state, but they are insufficient measures, said William Gheen, president of the Raleigh-based Americans for Legal immigration.
“The poison pill in this bill is it is a license for illegal immigrants,” Gheen said.
House Bill 328, which was approved in voice vote by a judiciary committee in the House of Representatives, is one of two immigration-related proposals North Carolina lawmakers have debated during this year’s legislative session. Also on Wednesday, members of the House commerce committee approved a bill that would increase the number of businesses required to use the federal electronic system known as E-Verify to check prospective employees’ legal eligibility to work.
House Bill 318 would require businesses employing five or more more people to use the database, tightening the current requirement that businesses employ 25 or more people. Bill sponsor Rep. George Cleveland (R-Onslow) said state lawmakers should work to keep people from immigrating illegally, because he said Congress continues not to act on the country’s broken immigration laws.
“We’ve allowed a huge illegal population in the state,” Cleveland said. “We’ve taken employment from our citizens. We’ve lowered the wage base because of the illegals working here.”
The proposal received support from anti-illegal immigration organizations and from Fred Bronson, who said he was laid off from his job at a Raleigh electrical company because his employer favored immigrants who earned lower wages. The North Carolina Chamber does not support the plan because it would undo portions of a similar state law it helped negotiate in 2014 and would be a detriment to small businesses, a spokesperson said.
HB328 would make people in the country eligible to obtain a one-year driver’s that would bear distinctive formatting. It would make it a felony to have, make, or sell false documents, and a misdemeanor in cases of people under 21 attempting to buy alcohol or people under 18 attempting to buy cigarettes. And it would make it more difficult for judges to release people in the country illegally who are suspected of a sex offense, a violent felony, or driving, drug or gang offenses.
Wednesday’s proposals have some overlap. Both would invalidate consular registration cards as valid forms of identification. Consulates including Mexico’s issue registration cards.
But the sponsors of the two bills disagree on an approach to illegal immigration. Rep. Chris Millis (R-Pender), co-sponsor of HB318, the bill tightening E-Verify requirements, said that supporting the driver’s license bill would violate his oath of office.
"You’re asking me if I would support legislation that would help people who are willingly breaking federal law?” Millis said in an interview. "No."




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WELL ALL I CAN SAY NC OR ANY STATE ARE NOT PLAYING WITH A FULL DECK . LET THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE A DR LIC
FIRST OF ALL OUR PEN DOT DON'T HAVE ANY SIGN THAT SAID ALL OTHER COUNTRY AT THIS LINE THEY CAN NOT READ OR WRITE & THEY KILL ANY WAY . WHY OUR CITY HAD THIS MEXICAN HE HAD NO DR LIC HE WAS GOING DRIVING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD . NOW WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT .THAT OK ALL I CAN SAY IS WE HAVE GOV THAT ARE ALL ASS HOLE .YOU DO ANY THING FOR A BUCK .YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE USA AT ALL YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER OBAMA