Results 1 to 5 of 5

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

  1. #1
    Senior Member Skippy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    973

    New doubts about Mexico's election

    http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f ... L28FJ1.DTL


    New doubts about Mexico's election
    Judges who determined the outcome are not releasing details about recount
    Hector Tobar, Los Angeles Times
    Saturday, September 9, 2006

    (09-09) 04:00 PDT Mexico City -- Top electoral officials and judges are feeding doubts about the outcome of Mexico's presidential vote by declining to release details about a recount of 4 million ballots and by moving quickly to destroy all 41 million ballots, legal experts said Friday.

    The seven judges of the Federal Electoral Tribunal declared conservative candidate Felipe Calderon president-elect Tuesday. But the tribunal's 300-page ruling on the election left some experts shaking their heads.

    John Ackerman, a professor of law at the National University of Mexico, said the judges had made no attempt to investigate improprieties in electoral financing and other charges made by losing leftist candidate Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador. The ruling also failed to cite a single legal precedent in its rejection of a Lopez Obrador bid to have the election annulled, Ackerman said.

    The court opened ballot boxes and recounted 4 million votes, but did so only to determine whether there was evidence of outright fraud -- and declared that it had found none. The actual tallies from the recount were not released to the public.

    "The tribunal is explicitly preventing us from seeing what actually happened in the partial recount," Ackerman said. "The result of all this is that we don't have certainty about the election."

    A spokesman for the Federal Electoral Tribunal said the judges would not comment on their ruling. He said no more information will be released on the recount.

    On Thursday, the Federal Electoral Institute, known in Spanish by the acronym IFE, denied a request by Ackerman, the investigative magazine Proceso and others to have access to the ballots.

    By law, ballots are destroyed after an election is certified as official. But the law does not stipulate when destruction should be carried out.

    Irma Sandoval, director of the National University's Laboratory for the Study and Analysis of Corruption and Transparency in Mexico, said the request for the ballots was made through Mexico's fledgling public records act. That law grants access to any document not covered by privacy and national security restrictions.

    "The IFE denied our request because they said the ballots are not documents," Sandoval said of the independent body charged with organizing Mexico's elections. "The ballots are printed by the government. But the IFE said that at the moment a citizen marks the ballot, it's no longer a document. It's a very metaphysical argument."

    The writers Elena Poniatowska and Carlos Monsivais, who both supported Lopez Obrador's presidential bid, also joined the petition seeking access to the ballots.

    Sandoval said she and others requesting access to the ballots are considering filing an appeal to the Supreme Court to keep the IFE from destroying them.

    The IFE's move to reject the request led Sandoval to compare this presidential election to 1988, when the government of Miguel de la Madrid burned ballots rather than allow a recount that might have proved leftist candidate Cuauhtemoc Cardenas' allegations of fraud.

    "All of the reforms we've had since 1988 have been designed to bring the left back into the electoral process, and now the left is on the street," Sandoval said, referring to protests by Lopez Obrador's supporters. "If the IFE proceeds with the rushed and premature destruction of the ballots, then the comparisons to 1988 will be more than apt."

    Lorenzo Cordova, a law professor at the National University, said that while the election was flawed in many ways, it was mostly a success. On election day, he said, all of the political parties praised the IFE's conduct of the election.

  2. #2
    Senior Member Judy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    55,883
    Well they may have praised them on election day but there has apparently been problems surface THEREAFTER....which is usually at the end of the day when the votes are counted (or not) and thus creates the concerns that the election wasn't fair and according to rule.

    A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation - Ronald Reagan
    Save America, Deport Congress! - Judy

    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at https://eepurl.com/cktGTn

  3. #3
    Senior Member CCUSA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    7,675
    It's definately a bogus election! Acceptance of a false elected leader, a North and South Mexico perhaps or maybe a revolution?

    What happens next is anyone's guess!
    Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

  4. #4
    Senior Member CountFloyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Occupied Territories, Alta Mexico
    Posts
    3,008
    What happens next is anyone's guess!
    It's like hell vomited and the Bush administration appeared.

  5. #5
    Senior Member CCUSA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    7,675
    CountFloyd:

    This picture answers the 1000 questions on every American's mind!

    The only one we want answered is,"Who is Pres. Boosh working for?"

    DING , DING, SURVEY SAYS, MEXICO!!!!
    Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •