Thread: No amnesty: "Compensate ILLEGALS to return home

Originally Posted by Judy

Originally Posted by JBParrothead

Originally Posted by renay

I live in Houston, Texas which is a culturally diverse city made up of many ethnicities. However, if you do not speak Spanish you are at a disadvantage. I have been unemployed since June and have had no success in acquiring a job because I do not speak Spanish! I really resent this.

Why sit back and take it? Why don't you file a discrimination law suit against the companies that won't hire you because you don't speak the language of a conquered people?

Great idea JBParrothead!

I don't understand why so many AMERICAN CITIZENS take this. I've heard complaint after complaint about this same thing and to my knowledge, no one has ever filed a law suit. What is wrong with Americans?

I for one would file a lawsuit against any employer that dared to deny me a job based on the fact that I don't speak Spanish, IN A HEARTBEAT!

Hey guys... this is the USA!! Our language is English...it's up to us to remind corporate America and any other unscrupulous employer of that fact!! Maybe a coalition of American citizens denied jobs for specifically not being fluent in Spanish needs to be formed and some class action lawsuits should be in order.

Originally Posted by JBParrothead

Originally Posted by Judy

Originally Posted by JBParrothead

Originally Posted by renay

I live in Houston, Texas which is a culturally diverse city made up of many ethnicities. However, if you do not speak Spanish you are at a disadvantage. I have been unemployed since June and have had no success in acquiring a job because I do not speak Spanish! I really resent this.

Why sit back and take it? Why don't you file a discrimination law suit against the companies that won't hire you because you don't speak the language of a conquered people?

Great idea JBParrothead!

I don't understand why so many AMERICAN CITIZENS take this. I've heard complaint after complaint about this same thing and to my knowledge, no one has ever filed a law suit. What is wrong with Americans?

I for one would file a lawsuit against any employer that dared to deny me a job based on the fact that I don't speak Spanish, IN A HEARTBEAT!

Hey guys... this is the USA!! Our language is English...it's up to us to remind corporate America and any other unscrupulous employer of that fact!! Maybe a coalition of American citizens denied jobs for specifically not being fluent in Spanish needs to be formed and some class action lawsuits should be in order.

Oh I would too, IN A HEARTBEAT!! Wake Up American Workers ... you need a second language to work anywhere in the United States if your first language is English. Organize a class action lawsuit against these employers and shut them down.

If we were going to do anything that costs money, we, the U.S. should help rebuild the foundations of villages in Mexico/South America, with modern schools, medical center, and the establishment of some form of an export business based on the area.

That would encourage the return of many to their villages, and keep the rest there.

Originally Posted by Buzzm1

If we were going to do anything that costs money, we, the U.S. should help rebuild the foundations of villages in Mexico/South America, with modern schools, medical center, and the establishment of some form of an export business based on the area.

That would encourage the return of many to their villages, and keep the rest there.

They know how to build, they can build their own. They already have huge export businesses that exports products to the US from Mexico. We have a $70 billion a year trade DEFICIT with Mexico.

I think we'd be better off worrying about our own 30 million unemployed workers and let these countries worry about their own.

Originally Posted by Judy

Originally Posted by Buzzm1

If we were going to do anything that costs money, we, the U.S. should help rebuild the foundations of villages in Mexico/South America, with modern schools, medical center, and the establishment of some form of an export business based on the area.

That would encourage the return of many to their villages, and keep the rest there.

They know how to build, they can build their own. They already have huge export businesses that exports products to the US from Mexico. We have a $70 billion a year trade DEFICIT with Mexico.

I think we'd be better off worrying about our own 30 million unemployed workers and let these countries worry about their own.

Not quite:

Trade with Mexico : 2009

NOTE: All figures are in millions of U.S. dollars, and not seasonally adjusted unless otherwise specified.
Month Exports Imports Balance
January 2009 9,790.6 12,474.6 -2,684.0
February 2009 9,277.0 12,371.7 -3,094.7
March 2009 10,020.1 13,929.9 -3,909.8
April 2009 9,580.1 13,697.1 -4,117.0
May 2009 9,397.8 13,339.6 -3,941.8
June 2009 10,569.0 13,995.8 -3,426.8
July 2009 11,151.0 14,084.7 -2,933.7
August 2009 11,072.4 15,022.3 -3,949.9
September 2009 11,590.6 16,150.3 -4,559.7
TOTAL 92,448.6 125,066.0 -32,617.4

Originally Posted by Judy

They know how to build, they can build their own. They already have huge export businesses that exports products to the US from Mexico. We have a $70 billion a year trade DEFICIT with Mexico.

I think we'd be better off worrying about our own 30 million unemployed workers and let these countries worry about their own.

the initial cost to us, just for the annual 400,000 ANCHOR BABY BIRTHS is $10 billion dollars. Education costs per child is $10,000 per year, $120,000 oer child for 12 years of education, that's another 48 BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR

EVERY YEAR, WITH THE BIRTH OF 400,000 ANCHOR BABIES, AMERICANS INCUR A CURRENT, AND FUTURE, DEBT, OF $58 BILLION DOLLARS EVERY YEAR, AD INFINITUM

AND THAT'S JUST THE COST FOR BIRTH AND EDUCATION. IT DOESN'T INCLUDE WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS, SECTION-8 HOUSING, and so on, OR THE RELATIVES

The costs of Birth, and Education, ONLY, 4 the ANCHOR BABIES, now in r schools, for 12 years of education is $696 BILLION DOLLARShttp://bit.ly/195rF7

The cost of illegal immigration
http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1962181.html

FAIR: The costs of illegal immigration
http://bit.ly/2B37hi

8 miillion known illegals are illegally working, here in our United States, at jobs they illegally obtained, using forged, or stolen documents.

As of May 31, unemployment is 9.4%, and there are 14.5 million unemployed American workers.

8 million illegals earning $10 an hour, $20,800 a year, that's 8,000,000 X $20,800, $166,400,000,000; that's $166.4 billion that American workers aren't taking home for their wife, and children.

But wait there's more; let's suppose 1/2 of those unemployed American workers, are drawing unemployment, at a very modest $300 a week, $10,400 a year times 7 million American workers; that's another $109.2 billion dollars out of taxpayer pockets. (Most of the state unemployment funds are broke). I just heard on CNN, a record 6.788 million are now drawing unemployment, so my 7 million is not that far off.

So those 8 million illegally employed illegals are costing us $265.6 billion;...but wait there's more, they send $65 billion dollars home every year, so that money isn't even spent in our United States to support businesses.

That's $330.6 billion dollars that illegals are costing us

400,000 anchor babies are born to illegal immigrant parents each year. 400,000 times $25,000 per birth (no complications) equals $10 billion dollars a year, that's $340.6 billion dollars that illegals are costing us for, all paid for by the good old American taxpayers while illegals are adding to our Overpopulation.

Originally Posted by Buzzm1

If we were going to do anything that costs money, we, the U.S. should help rebuild the foundations of villages in Mexico/South America, with modern schools, medical center, and the establishment of some form of an export business based on the area.

That would encourage the return of many to their villages, and keep the rest there.

Illegals have sent BILLIONS of U.S. dollars home to their third world barrios for YEARS, enough to help those people make a better life for themselves in their own countries, but that is not their priority. Big screen TV's, Hummers, iPods, cell phones, etc......you get the picture. U.S. businesses have closed shop here and relocated there, giving them job opportunities Americans no longer have and their countries still suck! They don't have the intelligence or fortitude to improve their situation, that's why they're all here. They want to be taken care of from cradle to grave and have things handed to them with the least amount of effort. For every one "hard working" illegal alien in this country, there are 20 to 25 more on the dole here, lying, stealing and thieving their way toward the American Dream!

Our money is better spent on border security, border patrol agents and a huge insurmountable WALL yet to be built!

Originally Posted by JBParrothead

Originally Posted by Buzzm1

If we were going to do anything that costs money, we, the U.S. should help rebuild the foundations of villages in Mexico/South America, with modern schools, medical center, and the establishment of some form of an export business based on the area.

That would encourage the return of many to their villages, and keep the rest there.

Illegals have sent BILLIONS of U.S. dollars home to their third world barrios for YEARS, enough to help those people make a better life for themselves in their own countries, but that is not their priority. Big screen TV's, Hummers, iPods, cell phones, etc......you get the picture. U.S. businesses have closed shop here and relocated there, giving them job opportunities Americans no longer have and their countries still suck! They don't have the intelligence or fortitude to improve their situation, that's why they're all here. They want to be taken care of from cradle to grave and have things handed to them with the least amount of effort. For every one "hard working" illegal alien in this country, there are 20 to 25 more on the dole here, lying, stealing and thieving their way toward the American Dream!

Our money is better spent on border security, border patrol agents and a huge insurmountable WALL yet to be built!

my responses were to the topic of paying illegals to leave .

Our money is best spent mandating, and enforcing, E-Verify, for all employers, and mandating E-Verify for any Entitlements.

Originally Posted by Buzzm1

Originally Posted by Judy

Originally Posted by Buzzm1

If we were going to do anything that costs money, we, the U.S. should help rebuild the foundations of villages in Mexico/South America, with modern schools, medical center, and the establishment of some form of an export business based on the area.

That would encourage the return of many to their villages, and keep the rest there.

They know how to build, they can build their own. They already have huge export businesses that exports products to the US from Mexico. We have a $70 billion a year trade DEFICIT with Mexico.

I think we'd be better off worrying about our own 30 million unemployed workers and let these countries worry about their own.

Not quite:

Trade with Mexico : 2009

NOTE: All figures are in millions of U.S. dollars, and not seasonally adjusted unless otherwise specified.
Month Exports Imports Balance
January 2009 9,790.6 12,474.6 -2,684.0
February 2009 9,277.0 12,371.7 -3,094.7
March 2009 10,020.1 13,929.9 -3,909.8
April 2009 9,580.1 13,697.1 -4,117.0
May 2009 9,397.8 13,339.6 -3,941.8
June 2009 10,569.0 13,995.8 -3,426.8
July 2009 11,151.0 14,084.7 -2,933.7
August 2009 11,072.4 15,022.3 -3,949.9
September 2009 11,590.6 16,150.3 -4,559.7
TOTAL 92,448.6 125,066.0 -32,617.4

We had a $64.7 billion trade deficit with Mexico in 2008.

Trade with Mexico: 2008

January 2008 11,990.6 17,054.5 -5,063.9
February 2008 11,961.9 17,674.5 -5,712.7
March 2008 11,793.1 17,707.1 -5,914.0
April 2008 12,492.9 19,364.9 -6,871.9
May 2008 12,297.9 18,837.2 -6,539.3
June 2008 13,383.3 19,179.9 -5,796.6
July 2008 13,800.8 19,238.0 -5,437.2
August 2008 13,749.7 19,522.8 -5,773.1
September 2008 12,789.2 17,926.2 -5,137.0
October 2008 14,875.5 19,695.7 -4,820.2
November 2008 11,944.7 15,471.6 -3,526.9
December 2008 10,140.5 14,269.1 -4,128.6
TOTAL 151,220.1 215,941.6 -64,721.6

Trade levels between the 2 countries in 2009 are down over 30% because of the depression over 2008 and 2008 was down over 2007 for the same reason.

Trade with Mexico: 2007

January 2007 10,683.5 15,373.4 -4,689.9
February 2007 9,980.0 15,142.8 -5,162.8
March 2007 11,493.5 18,190.6 -6,697.1
April 2007 10,893.2 16,254.9 -5,361.7
May 2007 11,956.0 18,018.9 -6,062.8
June 2007 11,561.2 17,977.4 -6,416.2
July 2007 11,188.7 16,896.9 -5,708.2
August 2007 12,282.9 19,115.3 -6,832.4
September 2007 11,364.6 17,810.1 -6,445.4
October 2007 12,330.2 19,855.8 -7,525.6
November 2007 12,127.2 19,356.1 -7,228.9
December 2007 10,057.0 16,721.8 -6,664.8
TOTAL 135,918.1 210,714.0 -74,795.8

In 2007, we had a $75 billion trade deficit with Mexico, which is why the United States was bankrupt by 2008 and hitting rock bottom in 2009.

Our total trade deficits with the world in goods was $-840 billion in 2008. It's why our country is disintegrating faster than we count the ways. That trade deficit in goods represents over 31 million lost jobs in the United States at $40,000 a year per job with 25% of the deficit in labor expenses.

Free Trade has destroyed the United States like every Republican has known it would since our party was founded in 1854 which among the platforms of protecting workers and ending slavery, was trade protection. If you don't protect your trade, you lose it and when you lose your the right to supply your own market, you leave your own citizens without work and destitute which requires otherwise unnecessary government entitlement programs to sustain them.

Free Trade and Open Borders is national economic suicide.

Here's the link to the US Foreign Trade Statistics. People should bookmark this link and consult it regularly. You can check every country going back to the 1985's by country.

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/bal ... .html#2007

Just scroll up or down for the years for Mexico. Then hit the back key a couple of times and pick your country to review the stupidity of US trade policy.

Here's the link to the historical series that shows the total trade balances/imbalances for the US back to the 1960's. You can see the decline and when the trade deficits were deliberately escalated. Not a pretty story. This is a story of deliberate economic treason against the people of the United States by everyone who had a hand in it and who supported it.

Originally Posted by Buzzm1

Originally Posted by Judy

They know how to build, they can build their own. They already have huge export businesses that exports products to the US from Mexico. We have a $70 billion a year trade DEFICIT with Mexico.

I think we'd be better off worrying about our own 30 million unemployed workers and let these countries worry about their own.

the initial cost to us, just for the annual 400,000 ANCHOR BABY BIRTHS is $10 billion dollars. Education costs per child is $10,000 per year, $120,000 oer child for 12 years of education, that's another 48 BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR

EVERY YEAR, WITH THE BIRTH OF 400,000 ANCHOR BABIES, AMERICANS INCUR A CURRENT, AND FUTURE, DEBT, OF $58 BILLION DOLLARS EVERY YEAR, AD INFINITUM

AND THAT'S JUST THE COST FOR BIRTH AND EDUCATION. IT DOESN'T INCLUDE WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS, SECTION-8 HOUSING, and so on, OR THE RELATIVES

The costs of Birth, and Education, ONLY, 4 the ANCHOR BABIES, now in r schools, for 12 years of education is $696 BILLION DOLLARShttp://bit.ly/195rF7

The cost of illegal immigration
http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1962181.html

FAIR: The costs of illegal immigration
http://bit.ly/2B37hi

8 miillion known illegals are illegally working, here in our United States, at jobs they illegally obtained, using forged, or stolen documents.

As of May 31, unemployment is 9.4%, and there are 14.5 million unemployed American workers.

8 million illegals earning $10 an hour, $20,800 a year, that's 8,000,000 X $20,800, $166,400,000,000; that's $166.4 billion that American workers aren't taking home for their wife, and children.

But wait there's more; let's suppose 1/2 of those unemployed American workers, are drawing unemployment, at a very modest $300 a week, $10,400 a year times 7 million American workers; that's another $109.2 billion dollars out of taxpayer pockets. (Most of the state unemployment funds are broke). I just heard on CNN, a record 6.788 million are now drawing unemployment, so my 7 million is not that far off.

So those 8 million illegally employed illegals are costing us $265.6 billion;...but wait there's more, they send $65 billion dollars home every year, so that money isn't even spent in our United States to support businesses.

That's $330.6 billion dollars that illegals are costing us

400,000 anchor babies are born to illegal immigrant parents each year. 400,000 times $25,000 per birth (no complications) equals $10 billion dollars a year, that's $340.6 billion dollars that illegals are costing us for, all paid for by the good old American taxpayers while illegals are adding to our Overpopulation.

Right, I understand all of that. There's no reason for them to be in our schools when they're illegal aliens with no right to be in our country and shouldn't be costing us 1 dime in education.

There's no reason for them to be in our hospitals giving birth with no right to be in our country costing us 1 cent in health care costs.

There's no reason for illegal aliens born in our hospitals to be given US citizenship and the right to vote when they turn 18.

There's no reason for any of this except treason by our government that has failed to enforce our laws. Illegal aliens have cost Americans more in lives, jobs and money than any other single group of people outside of free trade traitors. There's no reason on this earth for anyone to suggest we pay these criminals to leave. They should be rounded up, hauled out of here and our borders secured with troops and Minutemen if need be to keep them out.

Our government should start this process with a very simple announcement to all to gather, pack, gas up and leave the United States within a 30 day period voluntarily, and if they don't, then they'll be hunted down like criminals and deported.

Our citizens should start this process by telling every Congresscritter we have who has ever uttered the words "path to citizenship", "amnesty", "shamnesty" or "guest worker permit" that their careers are over and that they could be facing civil damages for the cost Americans have incurred with this illegal agenda to promise foreign nationals in our country in violation of US law the right to stay here.

If Obama's aunt isn't deported out of Boston in the next 30 days, then he should be impeached for breach of his oath of office.

Every American who reads an article in a newspaper pampering to illegal aliens, should immediately cancel their subscription and get their news elsewhere, that includes the Carlos Slim (Mexican billionaire) controlled New York Times.

And any public school district still spending money educating illegal aliens that hasn't already filed a lawsuit against the federal government to end this stupidity and over-turn the previous US Supreme Court ruling on this doesn't deserve the right or money to educate our nation's children.

Every union member who is sitting around a union hall unemployed needs to get up off their butts and run these illegal aliens out of our country, run these treasonous politicians out of our government, and tell these corrupt globalist corporations that if they want to sell it here, then they have to make it here with American Workers.