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    No Amnesty, No Deal, Mr. President

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    by Pat Buchanan
    No Amnesty, No Deal, Mr. President
    December 06, 2005 11:47 PM EST


    When the 17th Street levee broke and the floodwaters of Lake Pontchartrain inundated New Orleans, the immediate imperative was: Fix the levee. Before the cleanup could begin, before the refugees could return, the levee had to be repaired so water stopped flooding into the city. Everybody understood this.
    Why, then, has it taken five years for the White House to wake up to the first imperative in the immigration crisis: Fix the border, stop the flood? Why is President Bush still chattering on about a "guest worker" program that has nothing to do with the crisis?

    Since he took office in 2001, Bush said in Tucson, Ariz., U.S. border agents have apprehended and sent home 4.5 million illegal aliens, "including more than 350,000 with criminal records."

    Astonishing. That is 75,000 criminals a year, 200 felons a day, for the last five years, trying to break into our country to rape, rob and kill, and molest our children. Of the millions of illegals who succeeded in breaking in on Bush's watch, how many came to rape, rob and murder, like John Lee Malvo, the Beltway sniper?

    This is a national crisis, an existential crisis. But after five years of ignoring it, and now finally addressing it, what did Bush say in Tucson? I can't defend the border if you won't give me a guest worker program. Said Bush, "(W)e will not be able to effectively enforce our immigration laws until we create a temporary worker program."

    But this is preposterous. Bush is saying he cannot do his constitutional duty to protect the nation from invasion -- unless we let 12 million illegal aliens become guest workers and allow greedy U.S. businesses to go overseas and hire foreigners for jobs that U.S. workers won't take at the paltry wages they offer.

    But not since the "bracero" program of decades ago have we had a national guest worker program. And never in our history have we given business carte blanche to go abroad and hire foreigners to come and take American jobs. Yet Bush says if we don't, he can't control the border. What he means is, he won't control the border.

    The president's speech in Tucson was a kind of extortion of those who have fought for tough border protections. Bush is saying: Unless you give me what I want, a guest worker program, you're not getting what you want. But what a majority of Americans want is what they have a right to demand: That Bush do his sworn duty and enforce the immigration laws of the United States.

    Conservatives should reject this "guest worker" program, even if it is Bush's price tag for border protection. Far from solving the crisis, this Chamber of Commerce-LULAC scheme will mean final defeat, after decades of struggle to protect the borders. For though Bush may say, "I oppose amnesty," his guest worker program is amnesty.

    Amnesty means no punishment and a reward for law-breaking. And that is exactly what Bush is proposing. In his guest worker program, those who broke our laws and broke into our country get to stay and work for six years, then go home on sabbatical, then return to work permanently. What is that, if not rewarding law-breaking?

    Twenty years ago, Ronald Reagan was persuaded to grant a one-time amnesty to millions of illegal aliens who had been here for years. Result: Some 1.5 million illegal aliens were caught almost every year after. They had missed out on the amnesty, and they, too, wanted in. When Bush first broached his "guest worker" program two years ago, there was a surge to the border from Mexico.

    A recent Pew Hispanic Poll found 46 percent of all Mexicans say they would like to live in the United States and 20 percent, more than 20 million, are willing to break in. If Congress votes for Bush's guest worker program, nothing will stop the flood -- for the world will see it as admission that America is a weak nation that will not even order out of its home those who have broken in uninvited, sat down at the table and demanded to be treated like a member of the family.

    As Reagan said, the country that can't control its borders isn't really a country anymore.

    The battle to regain control of the borders is a cause that has won the support of a No-Longer-Silent Majority. The open-borders, Business Roundtable Republicans know it. On the run, they want to compromise. They will accept some border security, they say, if they can get in return an amnesty for their illegal workers and the legislated right of U.S. businesses to go overseas and hire foreigners to take American jobs.

    Conservatives need to tell the White House: No deal, no amnesty, do your duty, defend the border, or we will find men and women to replace you who will enforce our laws and protect our country.
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    Re: No Amnesty, No Deal, Mr. President

    Conservatives need to tell the White House: No deal, no amnesty, do your duty, defend the border, or we will find men and women to replace you who will enforce our laws and protect our country.
    Aaaah, yes....Music to My Ears!!

    Thanks Pat Buchanan. It's the first thing you've said in awhile that makes total sense so I hope you stay on topic and ram it home.

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    A recent Pew Hispanic Poll found 46 percent of all Mexicans say they would like to live in the United States and 20 percent, more than 20 million, are willing to break in.
    If you don't give us what we want we will just take it...No respect! Sheesh!

    Unfortunatly for them the "silent majority" is getting louder and louder.
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    But this is preposterous. Bush is saying he cannot do his constitutional duty to protect the nation from invasion -- unless we let 12 million illegal aliens become guest workers and allow greedy U.S. businesses to go overseas and hire foreigners for jobs that U.S. workers won't take at the paltry wages they offer.
    It's high time he STARTED doing his constitutional duty because he sure hasn't done it for the past FIVE YEARS--on ANY ISSUE.

    The president's speech in Tucson was a kind of extortion of those who have fought for tough border protections. Bush is saying: Unless you give me what I want, a guest worker program, you're not getting what you want. But what a majority of Americans want is what they have a right to demand: That Bush do his sworn duty and enforce the immigration laws of the United States.
    AMEN, PAT BUCHANAN!

    This sounds like a THREAT, doesn't it? Does it bring to mind the bribes and arm-twisting and THREATS made by Bush and Cheney in the Halls of Congress during the CAFTA VOTE??? This is EXACTLY what we had better prepare for now. There will be a push the likes of which we've never seen when this issue comes before Congress and we MUST be ready to counterattack.
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    QUOTE:

    Yet Bush says if we don't, he can't control the border. What he means is, he won't control the border.

    Bush is saying: Unless you give me what I want, a guest worker program, you're not getting what you want. But what a majority of Americans want is what they have a right to demand: That Bush do his sworn duty and enforce the immigration laws of the United States.

    How much longer is he going to get away with this ? The American people NEED to wake up, stand up and shout :

    Get Out Of Our White House
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    He acts like a SPOILED BRAT. "If you won't play MY way, we won't play". Like we've said before, it's his way or the highway.

    I was hearing someone last night on Lou Dobbs, I believe, who was saying that Bush just does not EVER consult with Congress. He just does his own thing and Congress be damned. And, that APPEARS to be the case. The only time it APPEARS that he communicates with Congress is when he wants something SO BADLY that's he's willing to come down off of his high horse and go over there to twist arms and threaten. He just DEFINES the word "ARROGANT".
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    Bush.....is a nerd consulting with the likes of Rove, Norquist and Robertson.

    Bush....is a criminal organizing coups, suggesting assassinations, breaching his oath of office at tremendous expense and peril to the American People.

    Bush....is a Globalist insane with the notion that he can be part of the team to rule the World under World Government.

    I've not any hope for him. A Globalist, criminal nerd is not going to prevail in the United States.

    That's my bet. My last dollar is staked now on it.

    There are alot of Globalist, criminal nerds in the United States. They hire llegal aliens to earn illegal profits; to illegally burden the American People with the cost of foreign nationals our country cannot sustain successfully; to open our borders to end our nation for money.

    But, are there more Globalist, criminal nerds in the United States than Real Americans?

    Why, NO!!

    It's a numbers game. There are 250,000,000 Real Americans and a few thousand Globalist, criminal nerds.

    Make a Bet on who is gonna win this war?

    That's Right, the Tyranny of the MAJORITY!!

    We've just still got a lot of MAJORITY to inform and educate. Alot of work, but WE can do it.

    And WE WILL.

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    I'm just SURE of it!!!

    But, FIRST and FOREMOST, we need to get a new bunch in the White House. That would be a start. Then, we could do a Congressional Housecleaning. We're probably gonna have to do that anyway to get up all of the SPLATTED TOMATOES! So, we can separate the wheat from the chaff then.

    AND, PRESTO! WE'RE BACK ON TRACK!
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    Amen Pat. God, if he ended up being the President back in 1993 or 2001 instead of King Jorge I and II and Clinton, imagine how things would have been different. Oh let me count the ways. I don't care what people say. Pat Buchanan is a real American hero and so is his sister Bay. Both are excellent people and they know what they are talking about. I really wish people would wake the hell up and stop with this ridiculous party worshipping and realize that both parties are selling them down the river and they will get nothing for being loyal to either side. Don't these locksteppers realize that no matter how loyal they are to either party that both parties are going to end up spitting in their faces, leaving them dissappointed and heartbroken? I can't fathom why this is such a hard concept for these idiotic locksteppers who vote for the party no matter what.

    As far as King Jorge Bush is concerned. I echo Pats sentiments. No amnesty, no deal, no compromise. No Jorge you moron, our national security and sovereignty is not up for sale. We want our borders closed, illegals deported and corrupt business owners jailed. This is not negotiatable and it's not up for discussion. Either you do it or we will find someone who will. I can't fathom why this too is so hard for Jorge to understand. You might be president much to our dismay, but you are not above the will of the people. You are not ruler of the world. It's not your will be done, it's our will be done or you will be impeached.

    Any congressmen or women who has the guts needs to investigate any arm twisting or threats that come their way from this administration. This government is suppose to have checks and balances and one branch of government doesn't have the authority to act like dictators. If this administration does this crap and we know they do then an investigation needs to be launched and impeachment proceedings need to begin.
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    I really like Bay as well. Things definitely would have been different if HE had been elected. For one thing, we wouldn't have been in Iraq. And, he wouldn't be opening the border as wide as he could get it like Bush is wanting to do.
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