Thread: North American Union: Fact or fiction?

North American Union: Fact or fiction?
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Posted: March 10, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

by Henry Lamb

Reaction to reports about a possible North American Union have been robust, to say the least.

Reaction from a few conservative pundits is way beyond robust, nearing the ridiculous. Popular radio talk-show host, Michael Medved, describes the journalists reporting on the possible North American Union as '' bastards and creeps and jug-heads and drunks and reprobates.''

John Hawkins, a blogger at Right Wing News says claims about a North American Union are ''... not true at all.'' He then explains why he thinks the claims are false.

People who are unfamiliar with the Security and Prosperity Partnership, or the North America Free Trade Agreement, or the Trans-Texas Corridor, or the European Union could easily believe the very superficial analysis of these two, and other pundits who have ridiculed the formation of what could easily become a North American Union.

About the only thing that is correct in the reaction of either of these two pundits is the fact that no one is admitting officially that a North American Union is under construction.

What is quite publicly under construction is a ''North American Community,'' with the express goal of deeper ''integration'' of the economies and culture of the United States, Canada and Mexico. This North American Community is the brainchild of Dr. Robert Pastor, who, as co-chair of a special task force of the Council on Foreign Relations, produced a report entitled ''Building a North American Community.'' This report is essentially a regurgitation of Pastor's earlier book: ''Toward a North American Community.''

Among other goals, Pastor wants the three countries to:


Adopt a common external tariff.

Adopt a North American Approach to Regulation

Establish a common security perimeter by 2010.

Establish a North American investment fund

Establish a permanent tribunal for North American dispute resolution.

Hold an annual North American Summit meeting

Establish minister-led working groups

Create a North American Advisory Council

Create a North American Inter-Parliamentary Group.
Pastor considers NAFTA to be '' ... the first draft of an economic constitution for North America,'' because it sets up the legal mechanism for achieving all his goals without bothering Congress.

The president apparently agrees with these goals, because he launched the Security and Prosperity Partnership in 2005, which consists of nearly 20 ''minister-led'' working groups, with appointed bureaucrats from each of the three countries, all working toward deeper ''integration'' through harmonization of procedures, rules and regulations – all of which is happening without bothering Congress.

While this is happening, Pastor, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Security and Prosperity Partnership all say they ''in no way, shape or form'' are working toward a North American Union. What they are working toward is Pastor's North American Community.

If it looks like a skunk, and smells like a skunk, it's probably a skunk – regardless of what you call it.

Is it just a coincidence that what is now the European Union began its life in 1957 as a customs union called the European Economic Community. A customs union is a free trade area with a common external tariff. The participant countries set up common external trade policies.

Do Robert Pastor's ideas point to a new and better direction, or are his ideas an echo of a treacherous past that robbed European nations of their independence, their currency and their sovereignty?

By following the European Union timeline, it is easy to see how the European ''Community'' evolved into a ''Common Market,'' and evolved its own currency, and finally established its own Parliament.

Look again at Pastor's goals. Are they not perfectly aligned with the history of the European Union? Again, it may be just a coincidence that the European Union was nurtured from the beginning by the Royal Institute for International Affairs. This non-government organization was created in 1920, by the same people who created its sister organization, the Council on Foreign Relations, in 1921.

Perhaps the North American Union is best described as a work in progress, having established a ''Common Market'' through NAFTA and CAFTA, and now approaching the ''Community'' stage through the Security and Prosperity Partnership. If the bureaucrats are not stopped by Congress, we will see, first, a ''North American Inter-Parliamentary Group,'' which is only a step away from a North American Parliament.

People, including pundits, who fail to see this work in progress could learn much from this NAU presentation. The NAU is moving quickly and quietly toward the same kind of political reality that now grips Europe. Only a concerned and enlightened constituency can compel elected officials to stop this erosion of America's sovereignty.

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Its an urban legend just like Bof A doing business with illegal aliens

Perhaps the North American Union is best described as a work in progress, having established a ''Common Market'' through NAFTA and CAFTA, and now approaching the ''Community'' stage through the Security and Prosperity Partnership.

This is EXACTLY like the way the European Union started!

Two questions.

1. How do the Europeans feel about their European Union? I was discussing it with a woman from Germany and she told me that most of them regret it and do not like it. Only those who made money as a result of it like it, but she said the citizens do not. Does anyone know much about that?

2. Establish a common security perimeter by 2010. Does this mean if Canada or Mexico must particpate in any future military actions that might become necessary and would they be equal partners in making our military decisions?

Its exactly what it looks like, the first step to stoping it is, stoping Kennedy and Bushes amnesty, get rid of nafta/cafta, stop those trucks from coming across our border, pilot progam my rear, once they are on our roads there will be no tuning them back.
Start attritrion through enforcement!! WE CAN DO IT!!!!

How do the Europeans feel about their European Union?

They hate it. I have a friend who has family in France and they absolutely hate it. Have you seen the articles about the enormous flood of migrants to England? They are overwhelmed. What is unbelievable is that this end result was so predictable, yet the countries/populations of Europe were led into the EU like lambs to the slaughter.

The NAU must be stopped because we now have a model (the EU) for what the consequences of "integration" will be.

These globalist elitists have got to be stopped.

Obviously nafta has only benefited big biz, not citizens.

Reminds me of a tv show I saw that took place in Mexico where a huge American company was built and the hired workers lived in cardboard box type dwellings outside, sickening. Profits for big biz rules and the heck with workers.

And what is happening in Europe should be a warning to us but noooooo, big biz can't allow that, they don't care, all they care about if profits at any expense.

LegalUSCitizen,
I read the SPP while laid up with a broken rib last year. I found a link to it on the Department of Commerce's website. They pulled that link a week and a half later. The NAU took up roughly 5 pages in the document and started around page 79. Each topic was broken down into 3 sections: Economic concerns, Environmental concerns and Security. In the security section was a sentence that read: The militaries of all three countries will fall under the control of the NAU. None of the three "State" governments will have control of the military.

Qflash,

When GW was running for pres. I saw a lot of information from the TX dept. of ed. dissapear of it's website because he was running around claiming he left no child behind, which was anything but true. You could no longer access the truth from the net because it was pulled. I saw a lot of it copied over to a bulliten board but it was gone from the website, which was "under construction". I've seen him wave the magic wand and make things disapear from public view.

Sounds like he did the same thing to cover up the NAU/Commerce Dept. involvement.

Dixie