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    Is there an absolute definition as to the duties of ICE and Border Patrol? It is beginning to sound like the the local police are confused. Do ICE and BP even communicate with one another?
    IMO, the more eyes and ears on the streets, the easier the job will be for both agencies. But it seems this administration does not necessarily agree, and will throw monkey wrenches whenever given the chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skipper0
    I have no idea how many illegals, nationwide have left, however I do know that 2 years ago Wal-mart was full of them. Mom's and sometimes Dad's with children who spoke nothing except spanish! Indiana is a medium sized state and I live in a small town on the NE side of the state. I have not seen a single spanish speaking or dark skinned person for over a year! There were a few companies who hired them here and I notice that is no longer apparent either. They may have fled to larger cities in larger states as they feel it is easier to hide in a crowd. I do not know. I can only hope that they went back across the border!
    No They all came up north to the State of Washington

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    Quote Originally Posted by onetrickydude
    Yes I too believe this is a farce and even if they return to thier own country, they still receive welfare ect with a PO BOX address. the invasion is still very clear in our schools colledges and social services. Please in our small town of BLUFFTON SC, we have 52 percent illegals in our schools, so please this report FARCE NEWS. i AM HAPPY TO SEE FINALLY PEOPLE ARE REALIZING THAT THE NCLR ( THE RACE) OR LA RAZA AND MALDEF AND LULAC ARE BEING RECOGNIZED AS LIARS, BUT THESE LIARS GET BILLIONS OF YOUR TAXPAYERS MONEY TO SPREAD THESE LIES PEOPLE YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY.
    wHEN YOU GO TO WALMART YOU CAN SEE THIS. A CART LOAD OF FOOD FOR THIER FAMILIES THAT YOU PAY FOR, I VERY RARELY SEE A MEXICAN WOMAN WITHOUT 2 OR 3 CHILDREN AND 1 IN THE BELLY. WE NEED TO BRING BACK WELFARE REFORM THAT IS ANOTHER WAY THESE FREELOADERS IN OUR COUNTRY ARE USING TAXPAYERS MONEY TO SUPPORT THIER CHILDREN AND THIER FAMILIES. I TOOK MY DAUGHTER IN LAW TO THE WELFARE OFFICE TO APPLY FOR FOOD STAMPS SHE IS A SINGLE MOM. THEY TURNED HER DOWN, BUT BEING THERE ALL DAY I WATCHED 13 MEXICANS WALK OUT WITH A FOOD STAMP CARD. THIS MAGNET ALSO NEEDS TO STOP, WHICH IS ONLY FOR US CITIZENS ANYWAY...NO MORE BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP FOR BABIES BORN TO ILLEGAL ALIENS, NO MORE. Mad

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    Yes I had to go apply a year ago and got turned down, while all the wording in the paperwork you fill out basically allows illegal immigrants hundreds and hundreds of dollars in food stamps. I was stunned reading the paperwork in North Carolina. I simply couldn't believe that an illegal immigrant from a foreign country was sucking this much money out of American Taxpayers pockets. It is treason, they used to hang people by the neck till they were dead for treason. How did these people get away with this. Our government allowed it and helped it along by giving foreigners access to American benefits. Treason!
    You're absolutely right. It is pure treason.
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    The # of illegals is not going down. Here in my home town there is a lot in hiding because immigrations are checking for illegal workers right now. It went round like a wildfire that the feds are in town. My next door Mexican neighbors don't even turn thier lights on at night latily. Just wait until the Feds leave. Those who didn't get caught will all come out again. For those who did get letters to go back to Mexico will return. I do not believe in any hope for change anymore. We are being lied to from all corners. I am fedup with it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuckerpu
    The # of illegals is not going down. Here in my home town there is a lot in hiding because immigrations are checking for illegal workers right now. It went round like a wildfire that the feds are in town. My next door Mexican neighbors don't even turn thier lights on at night latily. Just wait until the Feds leave. Those who didn't get caught will all come out again. For those who did get letters to go back to Mexico will return. I do not believe in any hope for change anymore. We are being lied to from all corners. I am fedup with it all
    You're right we are being lied to from all corners, but we will overcome this, zuckerpu. The only time you can fool an Americans is when we're not paying attention. Well, we're paying attention now. There is no force greater on this planet than the goodness of 250 million pissed off Americans raising hell with their government, and I think we're 63% of the way to taking our country back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skipper0
    I have no idea how many illegals, nationwide have left, however I do know that 2 years ago Wal-mart was full of them. Mom's and sometimes Dad's with children who spoke nothing except spanish!
    Indiana is a medium sized state and I live in a small town on the NE side of the state.
    I have not seen a single spanish speaking or dark skinned person for over a year! There were a few companies who hired them here and I notice that is no longer apparent either. They may have fled to larger cities in larger states as they feel it is easier to hide in a crowd. I do not know. I can only hope that they went back across the border!
    Didn't Indiana just initiate one of the toughest immigration Bills in the country?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthIllegal
    I call BS! I would personally like to thank Oklahoma for actually doing something about illegal immigration. Because of your rationale, us Texans have to suffer MORE illegals. ALL OK illegals have moved to Texas. This is getting really bad!!
    Your Welcome.
    Like I've said before..if there are any Illegals in OK, they're deep in hiding.
    Their sure not running the businesses here like they are in So Cal. I'll vouch for that.

    Y'all here have read the thread I posted.."Oklahoma Did It Anyway" ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by usatime
    How do they know the number?
    How do they know the number indeed!?!

    The illegal alien numbers have been skewed for at least two decades by government reporting, so why would one think these numbers were any more accurate?

    Here is a very interesting tidbit that exceeded even my best estimates of illegals within the borders of the US, and it's probably pretty darn accurate. Most troubling though, is that the publication was from 2007. Surely the numbers grew exponentially in 2008 and 2009 while hopes were high that an amnesty was imminent. (There is also a lot of other great information located at the site which one might enjoy reading, so bookmark it for later).

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    Illegal Aliens: Counting the Uncountable

    by James H. Walsh

    •The author, a former Associate General Counsel of the Immigration & Naturalization Service (INS), argues that 38 million illegal aliens are probably living in the U.S. at the present time , far more than the 7-to-12 million claimed by federal sources.


    •Official INS statistics have been suspect for many years.


    •Independent studies by Northeastern University, for example, concluded that the illegal population is at least twice the size of the official federal figure.


    •Veteran Border Patrol officers estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens, and more likely seven, succeed in entering the United States for every one that is caught.


    •The “ghost populationâ€

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    10 to 12 million illegals? The real research indicates numbers well in excess of 20 million. 10 to 12 million is more like the true number holding jobs. Run them out - regardless of their country of origin - and just think what that would do to unemployment numbers.
    If you didn’t have time to do the job right in the first place, where are you gonna to find the time to do it over again?

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    The count for Illegal Immigrant was around 11 million during the 90's.
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