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    NYT: Illegals and Unions

    "Immigration and the Unions"

    The very idea that unions would endorse legalizing illegal immigrants, as the country’s two big labor federations did this month, strikes some as absurd. Americans have a hard enough time competing with cheap foreign labor. Why undercut them within our own borders? Especially with millions of citizens losing their jobs?

    These questions deserve an answer since the bad economy will only strengthen the stiff winds of opposition that President Obama will have to fight if he is going to win the sweeping immigration overhaul he has promised. Legalization was already politically treacherous thanks to the tireless work of restrictionists who have spent years denouncing illegal immigrants as harmful to the country’s health. They have long compared the undocumented to invaders and parasites; it’s a very short distance from there to scabs.

    To understand why that view is misguided, it helps to remember that the country has largely bought that argument and spent decades and billions to seal the border as tightly as possible.

    It stages raids to pull people off assembly lines and out of their beds and cars. It has added hundreds of thousands of prison beds to hold illegal immigrants and enlisted local police officers to enforce federal laws. It has done everything it can to make illegal immigrants miserable in the hope that they will abandon their jobs, houses and citizen-children and tell everyone back home to forget about America. And how has that worked? It hasn’t.

    The agricultural work force is still overwhelmingly undocumented, as are the workers doing other dirty or dangerous jobs in places like hotels, carwashes and restaurants. Soaring unemployment has hit both skilled and unskilled workers hard. But laid-off construction workers have not been lining up to plant onions or pick tomatoes, and a hidden population of 12 million undocumented immigrants has not begun a mass exodus anywhere.

    Nor have the forces of global economic migration magically adjusted to fit the American mood. Thousands of workers still cross the border, although the numbers are down — a sign of the downturn, particularly in home building. When the economy recovers, the flow will revive. (Economic forces are dynamic, even if our immigration policies are not.)

    The unions, at least, understand that there is a better way. They see immigration reform as an issue of worker empowerment. If undocumented immigrants undercut wages and job conditions for Americans — and many do, by tolerating low pay and abuse and bolstering an off-the-books system that robs law-abiding employers and taxpayers — it is because they cannot stand up for their rights.

    “Workers don’t depress wages. Unscrupulous employers do,
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    Wake up Americans w/o or w/ jobs! Then get busy calling and complaining to the elected officials.

    Make sure to inform others. I have had neighbor, friends and strangers tell me they did not know the facts I gave them.

    What is wrong with these people? Garbage in and garbage out! No thinking ability except they go to work, pay taxes, comsume, and have pleasure if possible.
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    To understand why that view is misguided, it helps to remember that the country has largely bought that argument and spent decades and billions to seal the border as tightly as possible.
    Yeah right, that's why there was no enforcement until last year. Enforcement that had been promised back in 1986 when we amnestied 3 million with the assurance that no more illegals would come and no more amnesties.

    The unions don't care who its members are, only the dues they pay. To them, legalizing illegal aliens gives them more members. I say HELL NO!

    Enforcement works and we must keep at it and close all loopholes that these parasites (both dishonest employers and criminal illegal aliens) use.
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    The unions, the chamber of commerce, DOT, elected officials, most employers, landlords, the police departments, social agencies, public schools and others want our tax dollars soon to be Fair Tax from the purchases that illegal immigrants make.

    Think about this employers getting gas taxes off on their federal 1040 but "We the People" do not.

    What about credit card debt? Employers take interest and debt off on their Business Schedule. But "We the People" do not get this credit on the federal 1040.
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    The Unions used to help the American people.

    Corruption breeds corruption, God help us!
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    25 Million + Democrats in the stroke of a pen... and Unions need Democrats... it makes sense.

    Evil, rotten, greedy, un-American sense.
    Just because you're used to something doesn't make it right.

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    More propaganda from the Nuevo York Times, owned by Mexican Carlos Slim.
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