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06-23-2010, 02:48 PM #21
Re: Civil War
Originally Posted by topsecret10
Sounds just like what Adolf Hitler did. Remember that Hitler was a socialist, too:
http://www.brainyhistory.com/events/193 ... 91693.html
February 2, 1933 in History
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2 days after becoming chancellor, Adolf Hitler dissolves Parliament
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06-23-2010, 02:49 PM #22
It seems to me that his ego and arrogance are in control. As far as I can see this would be out and out TREASON.
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06-23-2010, 03:58 PM #23
Re: Obama: Amnesty to illegal aliens by executive order
Originally Posted by FedUpinFarmersBranch
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06-23-2010, 06:29 PM #24
Re: Obama: Amnesty to illegal aliens by executive order
Originally Posted by ICEstorm
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06-23-2010, 06:31 PM #25
I almost think Obama would LIKE an uprising so he can declare martial law and make himself emperor in perpetuity.
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06-23-2010, 07:17 PM #26
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Only Public Shaming Can Stop Amnesty Through Executive Actions That By-Passes Congress
By Roy Beck, Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 9:38 PM EDT - posted on NumbersUSA
It seems like it would be against the law for the Administration to order a de facto amnesty for millions of illegal aliens while totally bypassing Congress. But 8 U.S. Senators believe that is what Obama officials are considering right now because most Members of Congress are scared to death to have to VOTE on an amnesty just a few months before elections.
(Read the letter from the Senators to Pres. Obama below.)
Your great success in keeping Congress from voting on a mass amnesty this year has stirred up a new threat.
Seeing that most Members of Congress don't want to vote for an amnesty this year, Administration officials appear to be considering ways to do a de facto amnesty without involving Congress.
We at NumbersUSA have been hearing about this behind the scenes for a few weeks but haven't had solid enough evidence to mount a national mobilization against. Now, the whispering has erupted with an open letter to the President from 8 U.S. Senators spelling out the details known thus far.
In a nutshell, there is discussion going on within the Administration about stopping nearly all deportations, presumably until "comprehensive immigration reform" can be passed to give illegal aliens full work and residency rights permanently. The point here is to satisfy the open-border bloc of voters who have been threatening to boycott the elections this fall unless Pres. Obama makes an all-out effort to pass an amnesty this year.
RELIGIOUS LEADERS HINTED AT THIS EXECUTIVE-BRANCH AMNESTY LAST WEEK
I am guessing that this is what religious leaders were hinting at the Brookings conference I attended last week.
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusab ... ation-reli
They indicated that they had been talking with Administration officials about a way to help illegal aliens without having to deal with Congress. They then said they had better not say any more about it.
Friends, U.S. Presidents have proven whether Republican or Democrat that they are capable of doing almost anything they please until they come up for re-election. Only an incredible outburst of outrage from the public can stop the Administration from doing a de facto amnesty all by itself.
Make sure you have sent a free fax to the President and then to your 3 Members of Congress decrying any Executive-Order Amnesty.
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/my/action/board
We need all 535 Members of Congress to know about the De Facto Amnesty Plot -- and to know that you know.
We want Democrats in Congress to begin to tell their Leaders and the White House that even the hint that this amnesty could happen will hurt their chances of winning in the fall.
We want Republicans to start threatening to use the Plot as a campaign issue.
We want the White House to publicly promise that it will NOT unilaterally proclaim an amnesty.
Short of that, we want to see the White House forced to deny over and over that such a plot is even underway.
NumbersUSA promises to spread the word far and wide now that these 8 Senators have come forward with what they know of the amnesty plot.
LETTER FROM 8 SENATORS
Dear President Obama:
We understand that there’s a push for your Administration to develop a plan to unilaterally extend either deferred action or parole to millions of illegal aliens in the United States. We understand that the Administration may include aliens who have willfully overstayed their visas or filed for benefits knowing that they will not be eligible for a status for years to come. We understand that deferred action and parole are discretionary actions reserved for individual cases that present unusual, emergent or humanitarian circumstances. Deferred action and parole were not intended to be used to confer a status or offer protection to large groups of illegal aliens, even if the agency claims that they look at each case on a “case-by-caseâ€Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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06-23-2010, 11:37 PM #27
GOP Lawmakers Warn of Administration Plan to Grant Amnesty to Illegal Immigrants
Published June 23, 2010
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FILE: Agents raid a drop house for illegal immigrants in Phoenix in April. Republicans say they fear suspected illegal immigrants will be given blanket amnesty by an executive order of President Obama
Eight Republican senators and an independent group that supports tighter limits on immigration are warning that the Obama administration is drafting a plan to "unilaterally" issue blanket amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants as it struggles to win support in Congress for an overhaul of immigration laws.
The senators who wrote the White House on Monday say they are concerned that the administration is readying a "Plan B" in case a comprehensive reform bill cannot win enough support to clear Congress.
"It seems more real than just bullying (Republicans) into a bill -- that it's a plan that they can actually put forward ... circumventing Congress," an aide told FoxNews.com on Wednesday.
In their letter, the senators -- Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa; Orrin Hatch, R-Utah; David Vitter, R-La.; Jim Bunning, R-Ky.; Saxby Chambliss, Ga.; Johnny Isakson, R-Ga.; James Inhofe, R-Okla.; and Thad Cochran, R-Miss. -- urge the president to "abandon" what they say is a move to "unilaterally extend either deferred action or parole to millions of illegal aliens in the United States."
"Such a move would further erode the American public's confidence in the federal government and its commitment to securing the borders and enforcing the laws already on the books," they wrote.
Deferred action and parole, which give illegal immigrants the ability to seek a work permit and temporary legal status, are normally granted on a case-by-case basis. But the aide said the lawmakers have learned from "sources" that the administration is considering flexing its authority to grant the status on a mass basis.
Numbers USA, an organization that presses for lower immigration levels along with humanitarian treatment of illegal immigrants, has started a petition to the president expressing "outrage" at the alleged plan.
Rosemary Jenks, director of government relations with Numbers USA, said she's been hearing for weeks from "sources close to the Democratic leadership" in both chambers that administration officials are discussing whether the Department of Homeland Security could direct staff to grant "amnesty" for all illegal immigrants in the country.
"They're trying to figure out ways around a vote," she said.
"Any attempt to force an amnesty on the American people using this underhanded method smacks of despotism," reads the fax the group is urging supporters to sign.
The White House has not responded to a request for comment.
The Department of Homeland Security estimated last year that 10.8 million undocumented residents live in the United States; other estimates have ranged higher. Any move to grant blanket legal status, even temporary, would raise questions about how Homeland Security would be able to handle the caseload. Jenks said Congress certainly wouldn't grant the administration the funding for more caseworkers.
The purported discussions of a blanket amnesty come in the middle of several concurrent and heated debates over illegal immigration. The recently signed immigration law in Arizona has divided the country, with some states trying to replicate the state's tough legislation and other jurisdictions boycotting the state in protest. The Obama administration plans to file a court challenge.
Democrats, meanwhile, have been trying to round up support for an overhaul bill in Congress, and the Interior Department is facing renewed criticism from Republican lawmakers over restrictions it places on Border Patrol officers policing the border on federal lands. Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., shocked several Arizona residents last week when he told them that Obama had said he would not beef up border security because it would leave Republicans without an incentive to pass broader immigration reforms.
Jenks said the talks about Homeland Security allowing illegal immigrants to stay are "serious."
Under the law, immigration officials can grant deferred action to temporarily postpone removing an illegal immigrant from the country. That status does not offer a guarantee that they won't face deportation, but Jenks said illegal immigrants granted parole are often allowed to seek permanent legal status.
If a "Plan B" is being discussed, it's unclear how far along the talks might be. Another GOP Senate aide said the discussions started after Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Richard Lugar, R-Ind., called on Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano in April to stop deportations of undocumented students who could earn legal status under a bill they introduced.
A Senate Democratic aide said the Obama administration never responded to the April letter.
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06-23-2010, 11:53 PM #28
Of all the sneaking things some politicians do this tops the cake. Bet a lot of people are angry the cat is out of the bag on this attempt. Nothing this administration may do or try to do will surprise me, nothing!
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06-24-2010, 01:17 AM #29
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I almost think Obama would LIKE an uprising so he can declare martial law and make himself emperor in perpetuity.
So it's possible that Obama is prompting and enticing civil unrest.
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06-24-2010, 01:30 AM #30
well.... the S will HTF if he tries to pull this off. i say let him give it a whirl, better be careful what you wish for, you just may get it, an old timer told me long ago. this USA is full of traitors and fools that think they can do horrific acts without consequence.
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