Thread: Pandering to LA RAZA...

The enemy lies within. We have a year to get it done and done right before anyone takes office and slams horrible policies into place by using siege tactics (bush has started the siege, the next president could continue it and finish it). By waiting out opponents and continually introducing the same legislation and repeating the same phrases eventually one would inundate the enemy and placate their actions making it easier to subdue and overcome them in a fight.

I am a firm believer that this is the last great chance to restore order to the USA and to create a fair and balanced system of immigration controlled by the GOV'T (via the people as a whole) not by large corporations or race based groups, both of which only have their own benefits in mind.

We need a big victory and soon. that victory could come with
- a defeat of the ACLU in Hazelton or elsewhere
- a successful suit against a mega-corporation that hires illegals by laborers and/or the general public
- The successful arrest and conviction of a high profile person/company hiring illegals
- a successful suit and/or conviction of 'sanctuary cities'
- The finished building of the wall we passed as law
- The passing of 'Official English' as law
- Arizona's successful implementation of their law
- A new more border security conscience president elected in 2008
- Stopping the North American Corridor

Minor Victories that will help
- The passing of more stringent anti-trust policies in Mexico
- Elimination of birth right citizenship
- The banning of 'Spanish Immersion' policies in school
- The successful spreading of 'English Only' corporate policies

Originally Posted by Rockfish

The Anti-National Council of La Raza would not only turn heads but would turn heads of the unsuspecting.

I say we start an "anti-hate groups" group.. think of a catchy name and list and monitor Hate groups ala; Stormfront, KKK, La Raza, MeCHA etc...

better yet. Start reporting hateful statements made by their members to the SLP:

http://www.splcenter.org/center/contact.jsp

I know, I know we are normally against them but they are considered 'experts' on hate groups.

I think it's time to PRESS La Raza on their choice of name... the more they defend the title, and the more they try to redefine the "meaning" to be "community", "family", "world family" the more they look silly... they did have different names prior to LA RAZA

and... it is used only by Mexicans, not even Central Americans whose racial make up approximates the Mexican version... so the 'larger Latin family' version is BS

in fact if you watch Mexican TV, especially entertainment programs, it is quite clear they mean Mexicans as if it were a "race", but more specifically the brown-skinned folks, who tend to be in whole or in part "mestizo", i.e. a mix of Euro-white and Amerindian.

Originally Posted by mdillon1172

Cozy With 'La Raza'
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, July 23, 2007 4:20 PM PT

Election 2008: If a GOP candidate sought votes from a white group calling itself the "National Council of the Race," he'd rightly be shunned as a racist. But let Democrats do the same and they're called "progressive."

The difference, of course, is that in the latter case both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were appearing before the National Council of La Raza ("The Race"), a radical Latino group.

Trolling for votes, Obama pandered to La Raza's convention in Miami over the weekend, selling himself as one who marched alongside Latinos at last May 1's illegal immigrant amnesty rallies.

Clinton, by contrast, insisted she was "at home" among the La Raza crowd, having hired a top La Raza official, Raul Yzaguirre, as her national co-chair. She then whipped out a mariachi band in his honor to celebrate his birthday.

Obama challenged Clinton's flashy mariachi tactics by saying he'd "walked the walk" for amnesty and would revive the sunken immigration bill that went down in flames in the Senate this month. "We will make this a priority and get it done," he said.

But rather than either of these campaign tacks being political gaffes, both got favorable media coverage because the Latino community supposedly has been "galvanized" over the loss of the Senate immigration bill. It signaled that Obama, like Clinton, buys into the idea that the bill's end was brought on by what La Raza calls a "wave of hate" and that other American voters won't notice.

The irony is that La Raza is no ordinary organization. The name, in English, literally "the race," is something its embattled apologists now claim means "every race" or "community" — both absurd, since they both mean just the opposite of the actual word.

The organization has been around since the 1960s, with many name changes. If it really means "community," the Spanish language provides at least two completely serviceable words for that — "pueblo" and "comunidad." It's called La Raza because its leaders want to be called that.

La Raza is not only the loudest proponent of illegal immigration in the U.S. It fosters ethnic separatism in schools. It runs Hugo Chavez-type handouts for indigents and has ties it refuses to renounce to fringe groups like MEChA, whose own slogan is derived from the rhetoric of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro: "Through the race, everything; outside the race, nothing."

Today's La Raza is a $52 million not-for-profit group that lives off congressional earmarks, shakes down big corporations like WalMart and Bank of America for financial support, and has made illegal immigration and ethnic separatism its leading agenda.

Obama's spiel showed only that he understands the mentality of leftist pressure groups, with this one falsely claiming to define and represent all Latino voters.

Even La Raza's own Web site disproves that. A July 23 study by "Ed In '08" and La Raza reported that U.S. voters of Latin American extraction are more concerned about education than immigration.

That startling fact moves the debate too far into territory La Raza wants nothing to do with, like condemning failing public schools; oppressive, politically correct teacher unions; and the herding of immigrant kids into Spanish-only classes dubbed "bilingual."

What matters to La Raza is amnesty for illegals, if not through the Senate, then through the 1960s tactic of silencing opponents by smearing them as racist.

Of the candidates who attended the convention, Obama stood out as the most willing race-baiter, his Chicago activist experience coming in handy. He denounced immigration bill foes as "both ugly and racist in a way we haven't seen since the struggle for civil rights."

It's pure charlatan logic. The illegal immigration issue is about whether to reward foreign invaders who've broken the law, just because there are 13 million of them.

Obama should know that there are also 300 million other Americans of every skin color and ethnicity — including Latinos — who oppose amnesty and resent efforts to intimidate them through charges of racism. Americans have already shown they won't be intimidated. They believe in the rule of law.

Indeed, something much bigger is happening in this country with a federal government not responding to its own laws and an outraged citizenry up in arms. Maybe Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton should get a clue.

Please post the LINK to this article.

http://www.investors.com/editorial/edit ... 3444477912

so why did Lou Dobbs let Janet Murguia again off the hook... she quoted some crazy stuff from extremists as if that were "standard" rhetoric... and Lou unfortunately was not ready to quote some of THEIR extremist stuff, not just from MECHA and VOZ DE AZTLAN, but Latino websites....

Lou is too gentle-manly!

Rather than call it Nat'l Council of La Raza why don't we just refer to it as Nat'l Council of La Racists - anytime we use the name.

Originally Posted by nntrixie

Rather than call it Nat'l Council of La Raza why don't we just refer to it as Nat'l Council of La Racists - anytime we use the name.

Trixie, there could be no argument about calling La Raza the "National Council of the Race."

It would carry some of the cachet of your title, with the added impact of being the exact translation.

It also makes plain to English-only speakers that La Raza is a race-based organization. . . notwithstanding that race-based organizations are accepted in the U.S. (except for Caucasians).

WHY ARE ONLY WHITE PEOPLE FIGHTING AGAINST THE INVASION OF LAW-BREAKING JOB THIEVES AND THE BREAKDOWN OF LAW AND ORDER AT THE HANDS OF FOREIGN CRIMINALS?

I have struggled to get South Carolinians of African descent to realize that their jobs are more at risk than mine, but almost to a man, they don't get it. When I tell black people about local manufacturers, brought by tax abatements and infrastructure development to employ the African-American community, who now employ "Spanish-speaking only," it doesn't register with them. When I talk about illegal alien "quasi-slaves," only one black man in a hundred recognizes the plantation mentality behind employing illegal aliens.

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

Originally Posted by nntrixie

Rather than call it Nat'l Council of La Raza why don't we just refer to it as Nat'l Council of La Racists - anytime we use the name.

Trixie, there could be no argument about calling La Raza the "National Council of the Race."

It would carry some of the cachet of your title, with the added impact of being the exact translation.

It also makes plain to English-only speakers that La Raza is a race-based organization. . . notwithstanding that race-based organizations are accepted in the U.S. (except for Caucasians).

WHY ARE ONLY WHITE PEOPLE FIGHTING AGAINST THE INVASION OF LAW-BREAKING JOB THIEVES AND THE BREAKDOWN OF LAW AND ORDER AT THE HANDS OF FOREIGN CRIMINALS?

I have struggled to get South Carolinians of African descent to realize that their jobs are more at risk than mine, but almost to a man, they don't get it. When I tell black people about local manufacturers, brought by tax abatements and infrastructure development to employ the African-American community, who now employ "Spanish-speaking only," it doesn't register with them. When I talk about illegal alien "quasi-slaves," only one black man in a hundred recognizes the plantation mentality behind employing illegal aliens.

From what I gather, blacks still have that "slave mentality" against the whites.. anything white people are against, blacks are usually for. Its a very hard cultural thing to break.

there are actual statistics out there that show how illegal immigration has really had a negative impact on black america.

But the thing is, legal and illegal hispanics USED the black political movement in the beginning for their advantage and pretended to represent a solid front.. blacks and hispanics vs. whitey. Well, now that the hispanics are more numerous and politically more powerful than the blacks.. bammm.. gone! They were used.

Look at Sharpton, pandering to hispanics.. it is sick.

I think it just boils down to gett the "word" out... post YOUTUBE videos of information, and just cut/paste the information on boards and such.. pretty soon in will sink in....

Here's a hate group if I ever saw one: