Thread: Parents of slain LA teen urge proposed anti-immigrant law

LA City Councilman Dennis Zine just announced on the John & Ken Show that he will try to amend Special Order 40. Councilman Greig Smith will support him. He's not referring to it as Jamiel's Law, but from the sketchy details I heard it's at least somewhat similar to this.

Originally Posted by Populist

LA City Councilman Dennis Zine just announced on the John & Ken Show that he will try to amend Special Order 40. Councilman Greig Smith will support him. He's not referring to it as Jamiel's Law, but from the sketchy details I heard it's at least somewhat similar to this.

Heard that too. Believe it will go into committee tomorrow, or something like that.

We'll see who is more concerned about protecting citizens than illegal gang members.

Another Victim Of Lax Border Controls
Thursday April 10, 6:58 pm ET
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The Border: The failure of local law enforcement to work with federal authorities in enforcing immigration laws has claimed another victim. The family of Jamiel Shaw Jr. is asking, as we have, where's our sanctuary?
Jamiel Shaw Jr. was a Los Angeles high school football star who had dreams of a good life ahead of him when he was gunned down March 2 while walking home. He was picked at random, police said, possibly as part of a gang loyalty test.

Charged with the crime is Pedro Espinoza, a member of the 18th Street gang who had been released just hours earlier from Los Angeles County Jail, where he had spent four months for brandishing a firearm and resisting arrest. Espinoza is an illegal alien.

Jamiel Shaw Jr. is a victim not only of a gang crime but of a sanctuary policy adopted by many major cities that has led to increased illegal immigration and crime by illegal aliens.

In Los Angeles, it is embodied in Special Order 40, a 30-year-old police department policy that prohibits police from arresting anyone based solely on their immigration status, or from notifying immigration officials about an illegal immigrant in their custody.

Immigration-rights groups and government supporters of the policy argue that checking someone's immigration status upon arrest and informing federal officials would make illegal aliens in the community wary of cooperating with law enforcement, of providing tips or coming forth as witnesses.

"We need information from the community to protect and police this city," said LAPD Assistant Chief Jim McDonnell. "The unintended consequence of local police enforcing immigration laws is that many (potential witnesses) in the most crime-ridden areas, where information is hard to come by, will be even more hesitant to come forward."

An unintended consequence of not enforcing federal immigration laws is the murder of Jamiel Shaw Jr. and the deaths of other innocent American citizens, including police officers.

We wouldn't need witnesses to crimes that would not be committed if thugs like Pedro Espinosa were turned over to federal authorities.

How many crimes would be prevented if those who should not be in this country in the first place had their immigration status checked in encounters with police and those found to be illegal sent home?

Last year, two groups filed suit arguing that Special Order 40 was in fact illegal under an obscure state code. The lawsuit cites a 2005 Government Accounting Office study involving 55,322 illegal immigrants incarcerated in federal, state and local facilities in 2003. The study found that they had been arrested an average of eight times each with 49% previously being convicted of a felony.

Having local gendarmes not cooperate with the feds puts our safety at risk. We have documented and the public is aware of the growing problem of illegal aliens who are multiple offenders. Yet because no one bothers or is forbidden from checking their immigration status, they are returned to society to commit more crimes or prey on more victims.

Federal immigration authorities have identified 20,000 illegal immigrants in Southern California jails between 2006 and 2008. One can perhaps understand police not informing the feds about the immigration status of someone pulled over for a broken tail light. But someone being released from county jail on a weapons charge?

Jamiel Shaw Sr. asks, "If you're a gang member who is suspected of committing a crime, why can't they check a database at the police station to see if you're here illegally? Why can't they check a data base at the jail?"

Or pick up the phone and call Immigration and Customs Enforcement? Virginia Kice, a spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said the agency had no contacts concerning Espinoza before his arrest in the Shaw case, despite a criminal record.

The question is: Why not?


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Talk radio host Kevin James interviewed Zine tonight, on the motion Zine will introduce tomorrow. Zine said this will go to committee after it is seconded by Greg Smith, another LA city councilman. Zine said it will take public pressure to get this through the Council.

Kevin later spoke with LA mayoral candidate Walter Moore (author of Jamiel's law) about Zine's motion, and while both Kevin and Walter will support the motion for now, they expressed concerns about it. I believe both think Zine's motion, while a start, is watered down and contains some ambiguous language.

Ironically, before Jamiel was tragically murdered, Chief Bratton was being interviewed on a talk show, maybe the Kevin James show. They were talking about the wisdom, or lack thereof, of keeping Special Order 40 on the books. At one point, Bratton said, "Well, hey, SO 40 is here to stay, whether you like it or not, and anybody who doesn't like it can move to another state". He actually said that!

When Walter Moore was on the Kevin James show the other night, he put out an open challenge to Mayor Antonio to debate him anytime, anywhere, on Jamiel's law and Special Order 40. Walter said he hoped they would put such an interview on national TV, so that people from all over the country can hear the LA Mayor's views on why it is so important to give sanctuary to illegal alien gang members.

On the campaign trail recently, Juan McAmnesty stated that he refuses to call a soldier serving this country overseas and tell them that their loved one is being deported. In my opinion, Juan McAmnesty should have been required to call Jamiel's mother and explain to her that her loved one was viciously slaughtered by those that he is allowing to invade this country. This tragedy was 100% preventable. It seems to me that the politicians and others who advocate this invasion have the blood of these innocent Americans on their hands. Am I wrong?