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Paul Gosar: No Downside for Trump in Shutting Down Government to Get Full Wall Funding


November 30, 2018

Robert Kraychik


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Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) told Breitbart News that President Donald Trump should use his presidential veto power to force funding for construction of a southern border wall, offering his remarks in a Thursday interview on SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Tonight with hosts Rebecca Mansour and Joel Pollak.



Gosar said, “[GOP] leadership has capitulated to what the Democrats want” in relation to appropriations for the construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. “I hope [Donald Trump] holds his ground because, unfortunately, I think our leadership has folded the towel,” he added.


Gosar remarked, “It always seems like the Democrats outplay us on this because we’re not willing to hold ground and play tough. It’s the most disgusting thing you’ve ever seen.”


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Mansour pointed out that the Trump administration is currently asking for only $5 billion–or one fifth–of the border wall funding, instead of the full $25 billion required to fund the entire southern border wall.



She asked, “How do you see this [funding fight] playing out? Because President Trump said he was not going to sign another one of these bills like the last omnibus, which only gave him a pittance of wall fencing, not the big beautiful wall funding, and it was just loaded with awful stuff. He said he would never do that again. I feel like they’re setting him up to do it again. I worry about that. Do you?”

Gosar replied, “I do. But once again, the president carries the veto pen, and I think if he is savvy and he means what he says in regards to not signing one of those things, this may be one of those look-you-in-the-eyes and stare-you-down [moments where he can] say, ‘No, I meant it’ and ‘Come back with something different.’ Make these individuals pony up and stay here for the Christmas holiday. Sometimes you’ve got to provide that tough love, and you’ve got to follow through with your actions. Congress can send anything they want to the president, but it’s up to the president to honor what he made the comment to say.”



Gosar continued, “[Donald Trump] ought to say, ‘As I told you before, I’m not going to sign that bill’ — and hold his ground, and if they send him a bill of that magnitude, promptly turn around and … veto it, just as they’re getting ready to go to the planes.”



Gosar added, “Remember, it’s not all the government that’s shut down; it’s only the parts that we have not finished through. So the military is not a part of this. HHS and admin and the appropriations bills that we’ve already passed aren’t part of this, so this is a little different story that’s going on with this.”



Pollak asked, “So why wouldn’t the president go for a shutdown of those departments? He’s got all of the negotiating strength right now. There’s nothing working against him.”


Gosar responded, “Joel, I’m on your side. I see this point blank. I think what they’re trying to do is call his bluff, and sometimes, when people try to call your bluff, you’ve got to throw down with four aces.”


Pollak noted, “There’s no midterm election coming up. There aren’t going to be any political consequences. Republicans have lost the House. They’re not going to suffer for shutting down the government over an issue of principle. Maybe too little, too late to save themselves from what happened a few weeks ago. It’s not as if the Democrats are in a better bargaining position on this issue when the new Congress comes in because if they send the president something that’s less generous than what they’re offering now, he can still just veto it. They’re not going to have two-thirds to override the veto.”



Gosar concurred, “You’re exactly right, and remember that the majority of appropriations are funded through next September 30 already. So this is a fight that’s worth picking because I think you get the sway that you want, and you keep people here. Make it uncomfortable. They’re making it uncomfortable for President Trump. [Republicans] have squandered. That’s why we lost the House in the general election — is you make promises and you don’t keep them. People get tired of that, and this was a prime point of the president’s play — immigration and knowing who’s coming and who’s leaving and the safety of the United States.”


Gosar remarked, “I know that for the people that surround him, immigration has been a very dividing issue, and I don’t think some of the people that are surrounding the president are very friendly on this immigration issue — point blank.”

In March, Gosar described ongoing omnibus appropriations negotiations as a “crap sandwich” amounting to “kicking our base in the teeth.” He said at the time, “We’re kowtowing to Chuck Schumer,” noting the House’s prioritization of the Gateway Program — a regional infrastructure project linking Newark, New Jersey, and New York City — over a border wall.


On Thursday’s Breitbart News Tonight, Gosar also discussed the idea of states taking on the responsibility of border wall construction. He stated, “We’re going to have to play outside the box. So maybe what we’re going to have to start looking at is maybe the creativity of Article I, Section 10, Paragraph 3, in which the states on the border that are being invaded … usurp the federal government. All it takes is a governor — maybe somebody in Texas might be listening — to actually supersede the federal government in this jurisdiction, and they can use any and all power to repel those individuals.”



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Excellent article! Thank you Paul Gosar!

Wish more R's would find a microphone or a TV camera and get this message out.

Fund the wall and shut down ALL asylum for the next 12 months.

These illegal aliens need to get on the buses and go back home.

Mexico does not want them and the USA does not want them.

Their President's need to solve their problems and take care of their citizens.

No money, no aid, no oatmeal and no entry into our country.

We have millions of our own homeless, thousands who lost their homes in natural disasters!

22 trillion in debt...do not let them in!

Americans everywhere have worked more and harder in the past 2 years than in any period in almost 50 years. This is Christmas season, now is no time to have a Loser's Tantrum and Spectacle that punishes innocent federal employees and their families by depriving them of their livelihood or annoy Americans with employees forced on a strike while Congresscritters fly home with all of their compensation, benefits and perks beating on their chests about how tough they are with DemoQuacks. You were just DEFEATED by DemoQuacks. They out-play you because they stick together and you don't. Otherwise, Republicans would have won these mid-terms and elected 60 Republican Senators, God knows you had the results and track record to win them by a landslide, thus having all the leverage in the world you would ever need to pass whatever bills and funding we need and want.

But you didn't stick together, so DemoQuacks are laughing all the way to the bank and back.

Do people understand that what they're fighting over is the measly difference between the $5 billion in Yoder's Amendment over 2 years that Trump wants which is $2.5 billion a year and the $1.6 billion a year the DemoQuacks have already agreed to? Yes, $900 million a year. That's what you want to put before the American People as a Loser's Spectacle, shutting down 30% of our federal work force without pay at Christmas Time for? No, don't do that. Use $900 million a year or more of US DOD funding and keep those handsome US Marines on that border loaded for bear with flatbeds lined up as far as the eye can see filled to their brim with concertina wire.

Memo to Illegal Aliens:

You may get in here,
but you won't get in here alive. -- US Marines

Originally Posted by Judy

Americans everywhere have worked more and harder in the past 2 years than in any period in almost 50 years. This is Christmas season, now is no time to have a Loser's Tantrum and Spectacle that punishes innocent federal employees and their families by depriving them of their livelihood or annoy Americans with employees forced on a strike while Congresscritters fly home with all of their compensation, benefits and perks beating on their chests about how tough they are with DemoQuacks. You were just DEFEATED by DemoQuacks. They out-play you because they stick together and you don't. Otherwise, Republicans would have won these mid-terms and elected 60 Republican Senators, God knows you had the results and track record to win them by a landslide, thus having all the leverage in the world you would ever need to pass whatever bills and funding we need and want.

But you didn't stick together, so DemoQuacks are laughing all the way to the bank and back.

Do people understand that what they're fighting over is the measly difference between the $5 billion in Yoder's Amendment over 2 years that Trump wants which is $2.5 billion a year and the $1.6 billion a year the DemoQuacks have already agreed to? Yes, $900 million a year. That's what you want to put before the American People as a Loser's Spectacle, shutting down 30% of our federal work force without pay at Christmas Time for? No, don't do that. Use $900 million a year or more of US DOD funding and keep those handsome US Marines on that border loaded for bear with flatbeds lined up as far as the eye can see filled to their brim with concertina wire.

Memo to Illegal Aliens:

You may get in here,
but you won't get in here alive. -- US Marines

There is so much wrong with this, I don't even know where to start, but I will start with this....

keep those handsome US Marines on that border loaded for bear with flatbeds lined up as far as the eye can see filled to their brim with concertina wire.

Marines to Illegal Aliens:

You may get in here,
but you won't get in here alive.


Did you read that 200 family units waltzed through in less than 24 hours?
Why do you spread false propaganda?

Otherwise, Republicans would have won these mid-terms and elected 60 Republican Senators, God knows you had the results and track record to win them by a landslide, thus having all the leverage in the world you would ever need to pass whatever bills and funding we need and want.

Track record of no Wall, 60,000 invaders coming through a month, and you call that the results and track record to win by a landslide?

I wasn't referring to results and track record on illegal immigration. I'm referring to all the other results and track record on many other important issues, like trade, growth in manufacturing, tax cuts, economy, jobs, health care, drug prices, veterans care, military, Syria, ISIS, North Korea, wages, stock market, interest rates, energy development, deregulation, refugee admission reductions, travel ban, withdrawal from TPP, Paris Climate Accord and Iran Nuclear Deal, judicial appointments, Save the Seas law, the Artists protection law, worker training, worker apprenticeship, and by the end of the session, there will be even more good laws passed and signed into law by Republicans, with much more in the works.

Unfortunately, the legislation needed to fix illegal immigration and excess legal immigration isn't eligible for budget reconciliation votes and need bipartisan agreement which wasn't possible due to DemoQuacks blocking everything. The President and Administration can do some things without Congress and tried that, but stopping Sanctuary Cities, Catch and Release and DACA were all blocked by the Courts.

The will of the American People was vividly expressed in the mid-term elections and it wasn't even close. Americans voted overwhelmingly by 9 million votes in favor of an Open Borders DemoQuack Controlled US House of Representatives and Republican Controlled Senate. All appropriation bills originate in the US House of Representatives, so the people don't want funding for border security or walls or anything else that might offend illegal aliens trying to get in or least of all deport any of those already here.

Those who chose to fight Republicans in the mid-terms won that battle, but our country and citizens lost the war against illegal immigration in the process.

We can still fight amnesty and win and at least make sure they don't ever vote legally. Sure, we can do that, and we're very good at it, too.

Trump can still fight illegal immigration through his powers of executive authority, even though some of that will be challenged by lawsuits which he might win but could also lose, but he can and I'm sure will do that, using new regulations, diplomacy, economic sanctions and the US active military on the border are some of things he could do himself, in fact, he's already doing some of these things.

Gosar is right, it's time to take a stand. The time for empty threats and failed rhetoric is over.

Trump defenders are great at singing his praises and kissing the ground he walks on, but when it comes time to hold his feet to the fire, where are they?

Do people understand how a government shut down occurs? The President doesn't actually shut down the government. Congress does that by failing to appropriate funds or passing a continuing resolution while they negotiate and continue to work on it.

Originally Posted by Judy

Do people understand how a government shut down occurs? The President doesn't actually shut down the government. Congress does that by failing to appropriate funds or passing a continuing resolution while they negotiate and continue to work on it.

Perhaps you should school Trump on that then....

Exclusive: Trump threatens government shutdown over border wall funding

Nine days ahead of a deadline that could trigger a partial government shutdown, with no solution in sight, the president told POLITICO in an Oval Office interview on Tuesday that he is unflinchingly firm Congress must send him a bill approving $5 billion for his wall on the U.S.-Mexico border and that he would "totally be willing" to shut down the government if he doesn't get it.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...erview-1023306

Originally Posted by Judy

I wasn't referring to results and track record on illegal immigration. I'm referring to all the other results and track record on many other important issues, like trade, growth in manufacturing, tax cuts, economy, jobs, health care, drug prices, veterans care, military, Syria, ISIS, North Korea, wages, stock market, interest rates, energy development, deregulation, refugee admission reductions, travel ban, withdrawal from TPP, Paris Climate Accord and Iran Nuclear Deal, judicial appointments, Save the Seas law, the Artists protection law, worker training, worker apprenticeship, and by the end of the session, there will be even more good laws passed and signed into law by Republicans, with much more in the works.

They got the cart before the horse, instead of trying to save this country from an invasion, the R's were apparently trying to make the country nicer for the invaders.

All those items you listed are moot, if and when we no longer have a country.